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Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« on: September 23, 2008, 11:21:31 PM »
You know that same Christian church that convinced all it's sheep to vote for Bush last election, by scaring them into believing that if Kerry won the streets would be flooded with gays and abortions would proliferate and destroy the very fabric of society....

....Well, they are at it again!  And the worst part is, it will probably sway the election once more because they are probably the largest voting block in America.

....Now those same forces are suggesting by use of rumor and myth that Obama is the anti-Christ and that he represents another one of their signs of the coming of the day of judgement.

Like Mr. Miagi said, "Danial son, lie becomes truth only when people want to believe it".

Well these Christians are scared that their way of life is coming to an end (not because most of their teachings were based on myth and force in the first place and ultimately people would move away from it)... but instead they fall upon all these day of judgement myths, here are a few I have heard from them recently...

-That a sign of the day of judgement for Christians has something to do with a blue turban so they put out all those images of Obama when he wore a blue turban on visit to East Africa......lolololololololololololol!

-That the weakening dollar is prophecy because the anti-Christ wants to implement a global currency.

-thing about a chip in everybody's arm

-thing about mark of the beast

-thing about jews taking over greater Israel

...and so on.
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 11:59:15 PM »
McCain spat in Christian's faces, and once he realized he needed them to win the white house, he gets that conservative bitch on his ticket, and the evangelicals come flocking back to him like 12 year olds to a Souljah Boy CD.

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 12:11:06 AM »
Did the entire christian faith make a press release or something? What a ridiculous claim. Don't let the idiocy of a few cause you to make sweeping accusations...if there even is a church claiming such things. For all I know Infinite, you could just pulling this out of your ass.

What if I said all muslims must be suicide bombers because the few I have heard about happen to be? Pretty ridiculous statement, huh? Please post relevant topics. Or at least back up your claims with REASONABLE evidence. That precludes hearsay.
 

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 12:26:57 AM »
McCain spat in Christian's faces, and once he realized he needed them to win the white house, he gets that conservative bitch on his ticket, and the evangelicals come flocking back to him like 12 year olds to a Souljah Boy CD.

Christians are conflicted individuals.

Word!

That's exactly what happened.  Its almost like these Christians were just begging for a reason to support McCain.  They knew they couldn't support the blue-turbaned Islamic anti-Christ Obama, and they wanted desperately to have a reason to support McCain...

...enter Sarah Palin.  And now all the bible-thumpers are giddy because she is one of them.
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 12:35:24 AM »
Did the entire christian faith make a press release or something? What a ridiculous claim. Don't let the idiocy of a few cause you to make sweeping accusations...if there even is a church claiming such things. For all I know Infinite, you could just pulling this out of your ass.

What if I said all muslims must be suicide bombers because the few I have heard about happen to be? Pretty ridiculous statement, huh? Please post relevant topics. Or at least back up your claims with REASONABLE evidence. That precludes hearsay.

I was talking about the Christian Church and the rumors and myths that seem to come out of it in my discussions with church going Christians in my daily life I keep hearing these myths.

As far as Muslims go, if you called them all suicide bombers then I would think you were wrong, but not so much just because you grouped them all in the same category, but more so because your thinking is so limited that a man commiting suicide is the ultimate "evil" for silly Christians like yourself, rather than U.S. military Christian soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan who are nothing more than mercenary's killing large numbers of people for money, college grants, their worship of the American flag, the fascist state, and their Christian God.

...On the other hand if you wanted to make a thread pointing out myths and rumours Muslims spread about the coming of the day of judgement then its likely I might have to admit you were right about much of what you said.  But you wouldn't talk about that because you don't know anything about that.  And in your limited, abbreviated worldview all you can come up with is "Muslims are suicide bombers".   Brillant.

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 01:29:48 AM »
Did the entire christian faith make a press release or something? What a ridiculous claim. Don't let the idiocy of a few cause you to make sweeping accusations...if there even is a church claiming such things. For all I know Infinite, you could just pulling this out of your ass.

What if I said all muslims must be suicide bombers because the few I have heard about happen to be? Pretty ridiculous statement, huh? Please post relevant topics. Or at least back up your claims with REASONABLE evidence. That precludes hearsay.

I was talking about the Christian Church and the rumors and myths that seem to come out of it in my discussions with church going Christians in my daily life I keep hearing these myths.

As far as Muslims go, if you called them all suicide bombers then I would think you were wrong, but not really because you grouped them all in the same category, but more so because your thinking is so limited that a man commiting suicide is the ultimate "evil" for silly Christians like yourself, rather than U.S. military Christian soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan who are nothing more than mercenary's killing large numbers of people for money, college grants, their worship of the American flag, the fascist state, and their Christian God.

...On the other hand if you wanted to make a thread pointing out myths Muslims perpetrated about the coming of the day of judgement then its likely I might have to admit you were right about much of what you said.



I'm not christian for one. I never said suicide bombing was the ultimate evil, although it is pretty bitchmade, and it certainly shouldn't justify salvation. The purpose of any major religion I have ever heard about is to prosper and propagate, not off each other.

I will say that I have heard about some "prophecy", if you want to call it that, where a man of colored skin will assume power in a prominant position and it turns out his is essentially the devil incarnate. Hogwash is all that is. Obama could very well run this country into the ground with his policies (as could McCain), but I think as a society, we have gotten past shit like the Salem witch hunts. The 17th century has long passed and religious ghost stories are faux pas. That's probably why seperation of church and state was the first amendment written into the constitution. The only christians (used very lightly) who would possibly cast their votes based on that bible story are those crazy fuckers from Westboro Baptist Church.
 

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2008, 03:08:10 AM »


I'm not christian for one.


Then why do you always seem to talk like one?



 I never said suicide bombing was the ultimate evil, although it is pretty bitchmade, and it certainly shouldn't justify salvation. The purpose of any major religion I have ever heard about is to prosper and propagate, not off each other.


Nearly every religion, and especially Christianity and Islam have had a great deal of history involving the concept of martydom.  If you need examples I can give them to you but it should go without saying.   If you must have me explain the concept to you it is where a worshipper sacrifices their own life for what they believe to be the greater good (doing it for God, defending against oppressed people, standing up for their principles, beliefs, etc.  And they believe that God will reward them in the next life for this)  This concept of martyrdom has deep and extensive history in Islam and Christianity.   

Unless of course your talking about the Joel Olsteen positive thinking brand of Christianity...but that is something new.



 The only christians (used very lightly) who would possibly cast their votes based on that bible story are those crazy fuckers from Westboro Baptist Church.

Are you kidding?  Scaring the Christian sheep into voting Republican has been a hugely popular and very successful political strategy for the last few decades, especially.  It started with Jerry Fallwell's movement to "restore Christian values" to American society and the political associations he made.
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2008, 03:50:12 AM »
i dont know your sources, but this kind of shit is why ALL organised religions suck.

muslims aint any better infinite.
 

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2008, 04:09:33 AM »
i dont know your sources, but this kind of shit is why ALL organised religions suck.

muslims aint any better infinite.

That has nothing to do with this thread, because Christians are majority religion in this country and their prejudices can sway an election... as opposed to Muslims who are only 2% of the American population and are not in influential positions (as are the Jews).
 

As for your claim that Muslims are no better... I don't follow Muslim scholarship when it comes to a political and economic system.  Since trying to live in a Muslim country (Emirates and Oman) in early 2007, I've had to re-evaluate all of my previous life's thinking. I'm now a student of Harry Browne's Libertarian philosophy's on the individualists life, personal liberty, and small government.

And even in my days as a Muslim proselytizer here at the forum, you can never say you read one post from me spreading myths about the day of judgement.  And trust me, I've heard plenty of them in my days as a Muslim and I never was down with that type of stuff.
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 08:26:51 AM »
Did the entire christian faith make a press release or something? What a ridiculous claim. Don't let the idiocy of a few cause you to make sweeping accusations...if there even is a church claiming such things. For all I know Infinite, you could just pulling this out of your ass.

What if I said all muslims must be suicide bombers because the few I have heard about happen to be? Pretty ridiculous statement, huh? Please post relevant topics. Or at least back up your claims with REASONABLE evidence. That precludes hearsay.

Umm, where have you been? The media associates Islam/Muslim/Middle Eastern with terrorism/suicide bombing so much the majority of America actually believes them to be one and the same. Its a fuckin shame and it absolutely disgusts me. Christians don't deal with this same bullshit day to day so excuse me if I have little to no sympathy for a chrsitian who feels religiously profiled.
 

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 03:57:46 PM »

...enter Sarah Palin.  And now all the bible-thumpers are giddy because she is one of them.
Don't even get me started on Palin. Anytime she opens her mouth (which they keep to a minimum nowadays), she is trying to incite a religious war. Pitting Islamic "extremists" against US soldiers who are fighting "God's war". Unbelievable.
 

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2008, 05:44:49 PM »
i dont know your sources, but this kind of shit is why ALL organised religions suck.

muslims aint any better infinite.

That has nothing to do with this thread, because Christians are majority religion in this country and their prejudices can sway an election... as opposed to Muslims who are only 2% of the American population and are not in influential positions (as are the Jews).
 

As for your claim that Muslims are no better... I don't follow Muslim scholarship when it comes to a political and economic system.  Since trying to live in a Muslim country (Emirates and Oman) in early 2007, I've had to re-evaluate all of my previous life's thinking. I'm now a student of Harry Browne's Libertarian philosophy's on the individualists life, personal liberty, and small government.

And even in my days as a Muslim proselytizer here at the forum, you can never say you read one post from me spreading myths about the day of judgement.  And trust me, I've heard plenty of them in my days as a Muslim and I never was down with that type of stuff.


What happened over there, or what did you see, that made you switch to conservative, or libertarian?


Because with me it was actually my Christianity believe it or not. For years the whole Jesus was a socialist jargon rang true to my ears. I believed that socialism was the way Jesus lived and wanted us to live, and it is correct in a sense, but something was off. Jesus wouldn't force people to share what they had. You could join his congregation and everything would have been shared but you could just as easily not join and continue living your life as is. You can't do that in a socialist state. You have to contribute and share or you have to leave the country and change your life completely.

I can't just say this year that I'm not going to pay taxes because I don't feel like it. I'd be reprimanded. I can join a church if I like. I am currently in a Greek Orthodox Church (and always have been). And I can decide each week whether I want to donate money or not donate money and I can still belong to the church no matter which I choose. I don't have that luxury with regards to the Ontario health system, or Ontario housing projects, etc.

The bottom line is that Christianity teaches that God gave us morality and tells us how we should live but before that he gave us freedom and that freedom takes precedence over any gray area morality we think Jesus might want us to follow.

Obviously black and white morality exists and at times safety can trump freedom when needed. We'd be foolish to allow murderers to murder because God gave the freedom to do so and we must respect that. But giving money to those in need isn't a right and wrong issue. It's an issue of kindness, and too much kindness can be a bad thing;

I use the hypothetical example of my parents giving me 300 a week just for being their son. I live at home, I don't have bills to pay or kids to support and 300 dollars a week would be more than enough to sustain a life of small luxury. I could go out every weekend, and buy nice things. But it wouldn't teach me how to survive or prepare me for the future. When the day comes that my parents either die or retire and can't pay me anymore I'd have lived a life of inexperience and would have no idea how to support myself or create a life of my own. They would have done me a greater favor by kicking me out of the house at 18 and making me struggle while I was hungry than by stuffing me to the point where I'm fat and lazy at 35 or 40 and be kicked in the face by reality. In that case what was nice and kind was worse for me than what would have been mean and cruel.

That is welfare in my eyes. A system created to keep people from making lives for themselves. The government gives them a enough to survive but never enough to strive and it'd be better to give them no welfare.


Welfare is just one aspect though. Long story short; I came to the conclusion that Jesus was a Libertarian. He said it was ideal to help people when you can but never forced you to do it. And anyone that wears a shirt that says "Jesus Was a Socialist" (I've seen them), and thinks he would stay a socialist after seeing the long term affects of socialism, should buy a shirt that says "Jesus Was a Moron", because that what he'd have to be to continue to support a system like that.
 

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 08:12:27 PM »
You know that same Christian church that convinced all it's sheep to vote for Bush last election, by scaring them into believing that if Kerry won the streets would be flooded with gays and abortions would proliferate and destroy the very fabric of society....

....Well, they are at it again!  And the worst part is, it will probably sway the election once more because they are probably the largest voting block in America.

....Now those same forces are suggesting by use of rumor and myth that Obama is the anti-Christ and that he represents another one of their signs of the coming of the day of judgement.

Like Mr. Miagi said, "Danial son, lie becomes truth only when people want to believe it".

Well these Christians are scared that their way of life is coming to an end (not because most of their teachings were based on myth and force in the first place and ultimately people would move away from it)... but instead they fall upon all these day of judgement myths, here are a few I have heard from them recently...

-That a sign of the day of judgement for Christians has something to do with a blue turban so they put out all those images of Obama when he wore a blue turban on visit to East Africa......lolololololololololololol!

-That the weakening dollar is prophecy because the anti-Christ wants to implement a global currency.

-thing about a chip in everybody's arm

-thing about mark of the beast

-thing about jews taking over greater Israel

...and so on.

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 09:57:16 AM »
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2008, 05:38:36 AM »
i got little tolerance for extremists..whether they're republicans or democrats. What the fucc is anti christ anyways??..if you believe in Jesus you gotta believe in Santa Clause as well.
 

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2008, 11:30:52 PM »
Religion is for the weak minded and the ignorant. That is all.
 

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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008, 08:55:49 AM »

...enter Sarah Palin.  And now all the bible-thumpers are giddy because she is one of them.
Don't even get me started on Palin. Anytime she opens her mouth (which they keep to a minimum nowadays), she is trying to incite a religious war. Pitting Islamic "extremists" against US soldiers who are fighting "God's war". Unbelievable.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2008, 10:40:41 AM »
I think all religious people should be branded. Then, when they hold elections...only those with clear (sane) minds can make a rational decision on who should lead the country. Just a suggestion.
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2008, 11:14:25 AM »
McCain spat in Christian's faces, and once he realized he needed them to win the white house, he gets that conservative bitch on his ticket, and the evangelicals come flocking back to him like 12 year olds to a Souljah Boy CD.

Christians are conflicted individuals.

Word!

That's exactly what happened.  Its almost like these Christians were just begging for a reason to support McCain.  They knew they couldn't support the blue-turbaned Islamic anti-Christ Obama, and they wanted desperately to have a reason to support McCain...

...enter Sarah Palin.  And now all the bible-thumpers are giddy because she is one of them.
That's because they are not real christians. Real christians don't give a fuck about politics but to be saved by God.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2008, 03:28:29 PM »
"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?"
 

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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2008, 11:21:11 AM »
"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?"
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2008, 11:44:54 AM »
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2008, 01:57:08 PM »


I'm not christian for one.


Then why do you always seem to talk like one?



 I never said suicide bombing was the ultimate evil, although it is pretty bitchmade, and it certainly shouldn't justify salvation. The purpose of any major religion I have ever heard about is to prosper and propagate, not off each other.


Nearly every religion, and especially Christianity and Islam have had a great deal of history involving the concept of martydom.  If you need examples I can give them to you but it should go without saying.   If you must have me explain the concept to you it is where a worshipper sacrifices their own life for what they believe to be the greater good (doing it for God, defending against oppressed people, standing up for their principles, beliefs, etc.  And they believe that God will reward them in the next life for this)  This concept of martyrdom has deep and extensive history in Islam and Christianity.   

Unless of course your talking about the Joel Olsteen positive thinking brand of Christianity...but that is something new.



 The only christians (used very lightly) who would possibly cast their votes based on that bible story are those crazy fuckers from Westboro Baptist Church.

Are you kidding?  Scaring the Christian sheep into voting Republican has been a hugely popular and very successful political strategy for the last few decades, especially.  It started with Jerry Fallwell's movement to "restore Christian values" to American society and the political associations he made.

I could have sworn I replied to this. I remember typing it out...

Oh well, the point is moot now.
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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2008, 02:28:17 PM »
out of all the possible people that could be consider the anti-christ. they choose Obama, lets get real now
 

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Re: Christian churches now suggesting Obama is anti-Christ
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2008, 01:39:49 AM »
Did the entire christian faith make a press release or something? What a ridiculous claim. Don't let the idiocy of a few cause you to make sweeping accusations...if there even is a church claiming such things. For all I know Infinite, you could just pulling this out of your ass.

What if I said all muslims must be suicide bombers because the few I have heard about happen to be? Pretty ridiculous statement, huh? Please post relevant topics. Or at least back up your claims with REASONABLE evidence. That precludes hearsay.

  The same people he was talking about are the same people who make statements like this and believe them.