What do you think this decades music will say about our times years from now?

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

^I don't think its mostly a deliberate conspiracy to dumb us down (although it seems more like a combination) , I think humanbeings just naturally gravitates towards that and it cycles between ignorance and enlightenment; in past centuries the masses were told what to think and it was the responsibility of leadership to shepherd the people and enlighten the masses.
Nowadays, as liberalism has emerged the dominant world doctrine, salvation and enlightenment is more than ever an individual undertaking, however there is a catch: ignorance and stupidity is the default option.

These last couple of years this new millenium, I got more faith in hip-hop than ever, regardless of record sales and money, I think hip-hop is the strongest its been in a long while because underground artists haven't ever stopped doin their thing, they keep bangin out good music! Hip-hop has just gone back underground: secret society steeeeez and thats the way I likes it.


'Pharoah headress, on my bedrest,
commercial rap singing hooks, I couldn't care less'
-Killah Priest, 'All Hail', Beautiful Minds.
2008.

suggest me a couple dope underground tracks I can check out on youtube or upload something

right now i enjoys that new Killah Priest and Chief Kamachi, Beautiful Minds also the new DJ Muggs and Planet Asia album Pain Language:


http://rapidshare.com/files/146739674/Killah_Priest_And_Chief_Kamachi-Beautiful_Minds-2008-C4.rar

http://www.sendspace.com/file/i2iy64


Last year Priest had The Offering and Muggs had Legend of the Mask and Assassin....(if you aint peeped those then run out and cop). I love the fact that I live in Australia and we are not over-saturated with gangbanger and wigger culture (you can be a wigger too if you black), dumb fucks hanging out 24/7 infront of 7/11s with ridiculously oversized FUBU shits and shirts like curtains.... I can only imagine... I cringe at alot of the bullshit that comes out of the US...Instead we just pluck the jewels from the dirt, filter the real from the fake and say 'thank-you, you can keep all the rest of that'.


All the dope artists working together more and more, thats what im loving, you seeing Ill Bill with Immortal Tech, tech with Killah Priest, Priest with Muggs, Muggs with GZA, Muggs with Bill...and so on and so on so much goodness i cant word it all. The y2ks is being the ILLLEST era in hip-hop, fools are just ASLEEEP!
And THAT is very representative of our times: the great unwashed goyamic masses remain ignorant and blinded from the lies and illusions spewed forth by the dancing whores of Babylon while those beneath the surface remain very much awake with eyes like a young Ezekiel....
Hip-hop is alive as ever, its just esoteric, in every sense of the word. Theres so much dope hip-hop you just gotta search for it yourself or else you will never get it like a freemasonry initiation. 


My older brothers were into hip-hop in the late 80s and 90s and we always argue -they keep saying 'hip-hop is dead' and 'kids these days don't have no movements anymore', 'Pac and Big was when it was the real era', 'blah, blah blah'. Man...people only say that because they are not up on that real hip-hop and have lost sight and fallen behind ('to be Hip is to be update and relevant' -KRS-One) These days hip-hop is way more sure of itself and refined in terms of what it stands for, back then I don't think hip-hop had that, its was thug shit above anything else, political and nourishing only secondly. Nowadays, I think the balance is more healthy, but it flucuates like a person's happiness, hip-hop is living like Islam or Christianity is said to be a living religion. Of course im disregarding the mainstream industry, but hip-hop has never cared or been defined by what the mainstream industry does so why would we be doing that now?

oh yeah right now im also loving and listening to some tracks off J Live's Then What Happened Album and Erykah Badu's new 4th world war album, im getsssss off over that spiritual hip-hop.


Peace


ps your pm dosnt work i suspects a zionist-murdoch-HAARP conspiracy...

Thanks... and u just became my new favorite poster... now I just hope these songs you suggested live up to the hype you gave them.

Also... this PM thing pisses me off, all the sudden my PM doesn't work and I haven't changed anything.  My username is resident but its been resident for a few years now and only a couple months ago people started saying my PM was messed up, and I have tried to PM Job and his PM doesn't work either...

...anybody know what's up?

[Rugged Monk]

^No worries enjoy yall.

I think your pm cant work because of your name, maybe you shouldnt use these: " "  " " <the pm program seems to add them automatically and if you already have em in your name it confuses itself...

[Turf Hitta]

These last couple of years this new millenium, I got more faith in hip-hop than ever, regardless of record sales and money, I think hip-hop is the strongest its been in a long while because underground artists haven't ever stopped doin their thing, they keep bangin out good music! Hip-hop has just gone back underground: secret society steeeeez and thats the way I likes it.


'Pharoah headress, on my bedrest,
commercial rap singing hooks, I couldn't care less'
-Killah Priest, 'All Hail', Beautiful Minds.
2008.

sorry but the underground shit has been bullshit for a long time too, just in a different way. Rap is just a shell of what it once was all around.

[Rugged Monk]

^man...Im talkin on me, what I think: for the quality of music coming out from the particular artists i focus on im loving it and i could give not a fuck for the voice telling me 'no no no its not as good as it used to be'. Man... I been through and loved the old goodshit and now im loving the new aswell. For me, rza, gza, Killah Priest, hell razah, Dj Muggs, dj Premier, nas, immor tech, whoevers whoevers are as strong as theyve ever been. I find hip-hop fans to be incrediblly anal with what they expect, like they've forgotten how to enjoy anything, like artists gotta die before they affirmed, we got so many living legends and cats that been doing it still banging out amazing music. The whole year may be filled with sub-par wack bullshyte releases from across the spectrum of hip-hop from underground to mainstream; but all it takes is a coupla good songs from a particular artist doing it real and its timeless once again upon that hit...uhhhhhhh.


A moment of truth sweeps away centuries of ignorance.



Hip-hop is like a tree, part of it is constantly dying shedding bark, growing new bark, growth spurts, rainfall, fungus and mushrooms, wind upon trunk, moss, falling limbs and leaves..bugs munching....

'...ain't no best'.
-NaS, 'Ether'.

[Mr. O]

the only thing I see in 00's is death of music or birth of some sort of devil music...

'Satan, an angel of God: is an adversary of Man, not God, Satan nowhere in the Bible is considered an enemy of God...'
-as sampled by Grandmaster DJ Muggs, '?', Legend of the Mask & the Assassin.


Thats right...Rugged Monk be that heretic panganist devil worshipper... but overstand my young Jedi padawans....



THE DEVIL
Basic Card Symbols

A winged, horned devil, a black pedestal, a naked male and female figure, chains, inverted pentagram.

Basic Tarot Story

The Fool comes to the foot of an enormous black mountain where reigns a creature half goat, half god. At his hooves, naked people linked to the god's throne by chains, engage in every indulgence imaginable: sex, drugs, food, gold, drink. The closer the Fool gets, the more he feels his own earthly desires rising in him. Lust, passion, obsession, greed. "I refuse to give into you!" he roars at the Goat god, resisting with all his might. The creature returns a curious look. "All I am doing is bringing out what is already in you," the beast responds. "Such feelings are nothing to fear, nothing to be ashamed of, or even to avoid." The Fool gestures angrily at the chained men and women, "You say that even though they are enslaved?" The Goat-god mimics the Fool's gesture. "Take another look."

The Fool does so, and realizes that the chained collars the men and women wear are wide enough for them to easily slip off over their heads. "They can be free if they wish to be," the Goat-god says, "Though you are right. I am the god of your strongest desires. But you see here only those who have allowed their base, bestial desires to control them." At this the Goat-god gestures upward, toward the peak of the mountain. "You do not see those who have allowed their impulses and aspirations to take them up to the top of that mountain. Inhibitions can enslave as easily as excesses. They can keep you from following your passion to the highest heights." The Fool realizes the truth in this, and that he has mistaken the Goat-god. Here he understands now that it is not a creature of evil, but of great power, the lowest and the highest, both of beast and god. Like all power it is frightening, and dangerous...but it is also the key to freedom and transcendence if understood and well used.

Basic Tarot Meaning

Perhaps the most misunderstood card of all the major arcana, the Devil is not really "Satan" at all, but Pan the half-goat nature god and/or Dionysius. These are gods of pleasure and abandon, of wild behavior and unbridled desires. With Capricorn as its ruling sign, this is a card about ambitions; it is also synonymous with temptation and addiction. On the flip side, however, the card can be a warning to someone who is too restrained, someone who never allows themselves to get passionate or messy or wild - or ambitious. This, too, is a form of enslavement. The important thing is to remind the Seeker that any chain is freely worn. In most cases, you are enslaved only because you allow it.


http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/basics/devil.shtml

Interesting..so what are you saying?

[Rugged Monk]

Nothing.....and everything.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

So far this Killah Priest album sounds nice.... although its not on the level of 90's underground hip-hop, Rawkus Records type ish.

In fact their sound is way outdated.  I like the sound... but that's only because I'm kind of outdated myself.