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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2008, 07:40:10 PM »
Veterans have a lot of status in the US. I think the main reason McCain was chosen to run for president is because he's a war hero.

That argument don't hold weight either because John Kerry is a war hero too when he ran against Bush 4 years ago, while Bush dodged serving in the National Guards.

Kerry was sent home early from Vietnam because he shot himself. That normally doesn't constitute the label of hero, and most vets who served with Kerry didn't like him. But yeah, Bush dodged the Guard and Vietnam altogether.

The SBVT were a bunch of assholes trying to just discredit Kerry for his service.  Swiftboating even became a term thanks to these assholes.  Here's the true story
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The Third Purple Heart

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth further says Kerry didn't deserve his third purple heart, which was received for shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on right forearm. The Swift Boat group's affidavits state that the wound in Kerry's backside happened earlier that day in an accident. "Kerry inadvertently wounded himself in the fanny," Thurlow said in his affidavit, "by throwing a grenade too close (to destroy a rice supply) and suffered minor shrapnel wounds."

The grenade incident is actually supported by Kerry's own account, but the shrapnel wound was only part of the basis for Kerry's third purple heart according to official documents. The evidence here is contradictory.

Kerry's account is in  the book Tour of Duty by Douglas Brinkley, who based it largely on Kerry's own Vietnam diaries and 12 hours of interviews with Kerry. "I got a piece of small grenade in my ass from one of the rice-bin explosions and then we started to move back to the boats," Kerry is quoted as saying on page 313. In that account, Kerry says his arm was hurt later, after the mine  blast that disabled PCF-3, when a second explosion rocked his own boat. "The concussion threw me violently against the bulkhead on the door and I smashed my arm," Kerry says on page 314.

And according to a Navy casualty report released by the Kerry campaign, the third purple heart was received for "shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on his right forearm when a mine detonated close aboard PCF-94," Kerry's boat. As a matter of strict grammar, the report doesn't state that both injuries were received as a result of the mine explosion, only the arm injury.

The official citation for Kerry's Bronze Star refers only to his arm injury, not to the shrapnel wound to his rear. It says he performed the rescue "from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain." The description of Kerry's arm "bleeding" isn't consistent with the description of a "contusion," or bruise.

Rassmann's Aug. 10 Wall Street Journal article states that Kerry's arm was "wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat," which would make that wound clearly enemy-inflicted.

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the Web site of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.

Another major discrepancy raises a question of how close Kerry's accusers actually were to the rescue of Rassmann. Tour of Duty describes Rassmann's rescue (and the sniper fire) as happening "several hundred yards back" from where the crippled PCF-3 was lying, not "a few yards away," the distance from which the anti-Kerry veterans claim to have witnessed the incident.

I find this quite perplexing:

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the Web site of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.

It's the military and obviously they have their own guidelines for earning honors, but that seems to debunk the statement earlier in the article that the grenade blast was enemy inflicted.
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2008, 07:44:31 PM »
SOME..NOT ALL..WHITE PEOPLE RATHER VOTE FOR MORE BUSH BULLSHIT RATHER THAN CHANGE ONLY CAUSE THE PERSON TO CHANGE IT IS "BLACK"..

What about the black people who are voting for Obama solely because he's black? An executive position like president of the United States should be about policy, not race. All I ask for is the best man for the job, but it's more like choosing between the lesser of two evils, regardless of who is running, their party, or their race.
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2008, 07:52:16 PM »
SOME..NOT ALL..WHITE PEOPLE RATHER VOTE FOR MORE BUSH BULLSHIT RATHER THAN CHANGE ONLY CAUSE THE PERSON TO CHANGE IT IS "BLACK"..

What about the black people who are voting for Obama solely because he's black? An executive position like president of the United States should be about policy, not race. All I ask for is the best man for the job, but it's more like choosing between the lesser of two evils, regardless of who is running, their party, or their race.

the amount of Black people voting FOR Obama simply for being Black will nowhere near counteract the amount of White/ Hispanic people who will vote against him because he IS.
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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2008, 07:59:35 PM »
I'm pretty sure in 2006, Australia told the muslims who were immigrating to their nation to adapt or turn right back around and leave.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," Treasurer Peter Costello said on national television.

Better check your sources Jared.

Sadly, this brave man's views are not in the majority. Most Australians have bought into the leftist agenda.
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2008, 08:13:52 PM »
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

don't underestimate the racism of white people.
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2008, 08:29:00 PM »
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

don't underestimate the racism of white people.
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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2008, 08:45:02 PM »
1. racist
2. ignorant
3. a combo of both
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2008, 09:58:04 PM »
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

Well, if I did vote for McCain (which I wouldn't) it would probably be fear of Obama being a socialist; because I believe in the free market rather than government enforcing where our money goes. 

However, the problem with that is that McCain is also a socialist (and on top of that a fascist.  He voted for the bail out which is basically an extended nationalization of the banking industry, and feels no reluctance in sticking governments nose into all aspects of human endeavor, from major league baseball (he's the one that threatened them with steroid legislation which is definitely not a function of the government as outlined in the Constitution), to meddling in the affairs of Nations abroad, and all the while he demands that man's highest duty is to the state much in the same way as Stalin or Hitler.

The best candidate is probably Chuck Baldwin from a Libertarian perspective. 

 
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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2008, 01:11:25 AM »
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

he has far more knowledge in economics than mc cain

obama atleast stated that the US may face financial crisis

what did mc cain say? the US has a strong foundation and will be fine less than a week later shit gets fucked up


and whoever said who cares what australians think, well the US is the greatest economy in the world, whoever is in charge of it effects the rest of the world. so fuck off.
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2008, 02:34:59 AM »
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2008, 09:28:57 AM »
could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???


very good question.
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2008, 12:45:11 PM »
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

he has far more knowledge in economics than mc cain

obama atleast stated that the US may face financial crisis

what did mc cain say? the US has a strong foundation and will be fine less than a week later shit gets fucked up

I wouldn't say he knows a great deal more about the economy than McCain. He may have a better view on economics, but certainly not enough to reverse what has happened on his own. That is why presidents have advisors.

And not that I find lying acceptable, but there have been many instances where someone of power says something, like McCain's "Everything is fine" comment, in an attempt to quell a negative effect. It made him look like an idiot because he was wrong, but if he were right, Obama would be the one looking like an idiot.
 

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2008, 01:01:30 PM »
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?
 

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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2008, 01:04:34 PM »
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
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Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2008, 01:27:06 PM »
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
how can you speak on race relations in the STATES when your ass dont even live in the fuckin states. You motherfuckers live  where the percent of Blacks is like .0012 . please shut the fuck up. like eye dont overstand how ya motherfuckers have the nerve to open your fuckin mouths. no wonder why you running around saying nigga this and nigga that because they aint no Blacks out there to bitch slap your wigger ass. fuckin bullshit