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What would it take...
« on: November 16, 2008, 01:20:03 AM »
For the Westcoast to create it's own major label to compete with Interscope and others and put it's own on?  Could all these new dudes on the west get together and form something?  I think Damizza could put something like that together and run it.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 01:47:15 AM »
IT WOULD TAKE MILLIONS, ASK DRE, CUBE, ICE TEA AND SNOOP TO PUT THEY MONEY TOGETHER AND FORM A SUPER LEBAL, NOT HAPPENING  ;D
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 01:52:10 AM »
Honestly I don't think we want any of them running a label... maybe maybe Cube but none of the others.  Dre takes forever to put out a record and don't put on the west.  Ice T don't really fuck with rap anymore.  Snoop.. well I like him but his production and features and shit just don't work.  I think he would be horrible at running a label.  Cube, WC & Crazy Toones are the closest to putting some real westcoast shit together.

I'd prefer to have Damizza, Dae One, F Major and other west coast producers running that shit and putting on the "newer" west coast cats.  They already are on a smaller scale with their own labels.  Babyree, Diocese, Dae One Productions etc.. but if they could get the money and backings to really promote these dudes... I think then they could bring back the west.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 01:09:03 PM »
Honestly I don't think we want any of them running a label... maybe maybe Cube but none of the others.  Dre takes forever to put out a record and don't put on the west.  Ice T don't really fuck with rap anymore.  Snoop.. well I like him but his production and features and shit just don't work.  I think he would be horrible at running a label.  Cube, WC & Crazy Toones are the closest to putting some real westcoast shit together.

I'd prefer to have Damizza, Dae One, F Major and other west coast producers running that shit and putting on the "newer" west coast cats.  They already are on a smaller scale with their own labels.  Babyree, Diocese, Dae One Productions etc.. but if they could get the money and backings to really promote these dudes... I think then they could bring back the west.

Nice idea. It could work, would take some time but it could work.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 02:20:53 PM »
Thank you D.. finally someone that can come in and comment and discuss.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 02:31:03 PM »
Thank you D.. finally someone that can come in and comment and discuss.

No problem. Yeah Damizza could definitely head a label like that. If promoted right I definitely think it could work. And sticking by release dates also.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 02:47:44 PM »
I think they could do it.  Stick with release dates, good promoting... and I think if they could keep the nice IN HOUSE production like the West did back in the day with Death Row & Dangerous Crew etc... they could make some banging CD's and bring back the west.

Where's Damizza at?!?!?!
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 02:53:35 PM »
Great idea. But I think people stopped doing deals with each other. Simply they can't make understood, everybody wants to run this and that. They would fight for the money, that's unfortunately today's world.

So they'll put out shitty albums instead of albums full of unity and energy.
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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 02:54:59 PM »
Mostly true but what I've seen these last two years with Damizza, Dae One, Bishop, Taje etc.. they all work together really well and put out damn good albums.. which they have been putting out for free.. and with ALL of them I would have bought them.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 02:58:07 PM »
THE WESTCOAST LEGENDS THAT ARE "RICH" WOULD HAVE TO PUT THERE MONEY IN AS AN INVESTMENT AND STEP BACK AND LET SOME OTHER CAT RUN IT!!! GOOD LUCK  8)
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 03:01:49 PM »
Mostly true but what I've seen these last two years with Damizza, Dae One, Bishop, Taje etc.. they all work together really well and put out damn good albums.. which they have been putting out for free.. and with ALL of them I would have bought them.

True statement, I would have bought them too! But, they ain't got power to run the major label in my opinion.
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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 03:03:45 PM »
EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ON THIS WS FORUM, BUT WONT BUY SHIT, MY ALBUM SELLS IN JAPAN, I LIKE THE JAPANESE, THEY BUY 5 COPIES AT A TIME FOR 13.99,  ;D, I FUX WIT THE JAPZ, BUT I WISH I COULD SELL SOME IN FUCKIN ATL OR SOME SHIT, I SOLD ABOUT 250 COPIES OF TURNT UP IN A MONTH ONLINE, WHICH IS GOOD, FOR ME AT LEAST, I MADE MY MONEY BACK AND SOME, SO IM HAPPY, PLUS I SELL BEATS, BUT IT IS REALLY GONNA TAKE US TO HAVE FUN AND MAKE MONEY AND START DEMANDING RESPECT FROM THIS "BIZNESS", AND I AINT TALKIN DEMAND AS IN PUTTIN A BURNER TO A WHITE NIGGA HEAD, I MEAN EARNING IT, I LIKE WHAT PROB IS DOING!!!
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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 03:07:36 PM »
EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ON THIS WS FORUM, BUT WONT BUY SHIT, MY ALBUM SELLS IN JAPAN, I LIKE THE JAPANESE, THEY BUY 5 COPIES AT A TIME FOR 13.99,  ;D, I FUX WIT THE JAPZ, BUT I WISH I COULD SELL SOME IN FUCKIN ATL OR SOME SHIT, I SOLD ABOUT 250 COPIES OF TURNT UP IN A MONTH ONLINE, WHICH IS GOOD, FOR ME AT LEAST, I MADE MY MONEY BACK AND SOME, SO IM HAPPY, PLUS I SELL BEATS, BUT IT IS REALLY GONNA TAKE US TO HAVE FUN AND MAKE MONEY AND START DEMANDING RESPECT FROM THIS "BIZNESS", AND I AINT TALKIN DEMAND AS IN PUTTIN A BURNER TO A WHITE NIGGA HEAD, I MEAN EARNING IT, I LIKE WHAT PROB IS DOING!!!

Well I can't speak for everybody but I still to this day purchase albums.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 03:10:44 PM »
Well I can't speak for everybody but I still to this day purchase albums.

Me too, of course!

DISKO: It ain't relevant with the point of this topic, mayne.
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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 03:12:30 PM »
Well I can't speak for everybody but I still to this day purchase albums.

Me too, of course!

DISKO: It ain't relevant with the point of this topic, mayne.

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 03:13:12 PM »
WE NEED A GHETTO SOUNDSCAN TO, 5,000 COPIES IS SIVER, 10,000 COPIES IZ GOLD, 20,000 IS PLATINUM,
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2008, 03:16:02 PM »
WE NEED A GHETTO SOUNDSCAN TO, 5,000 COPIES IS SIVER, 10,000 COPIES IZ GOLD, 20,000 IS PLATINUM,

Shut the f*ck up mayne. You're in the wrong thread and nobody is interested in...

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It's funky enough!
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2008, 03:22:53 PM »
BITCH ASS NIGGA!!

WE NEED A GHETTO SOUNDSCAN TO, 5,000 COPIES IS SIVER, 10,000 COPIES IZ GOLD, 20,000 IS PLATINUM,

Shut the f*ck up mayne. You're in the wrong thread and nobody is interested in...

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2008, 03:27:24 PM »
Mostly true but what I've seen these last two years with Damizza, Dae One, Bishop, Taje etc.. they all work together really well and put out damn good albums.. which they have been putting out for free.. and with ALL of them I would have bought them.

Yeah I agree 100 with you on that. The majority of quality music from the west this year has almost all been free on dubcnn. That I have really been feeling at the moment.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2008, 03:28:15 PM »
REALTALK THOUGH, I WOULD HAVE LIKE TO SEE A CASHMONEY LIKE LABEL ON THE WEST, IF DRE PUT OUT ALBUMS LIKE CASHMONEY, I THINK WE'D BE FINE, I THINK IF DRE HAD A MORE ACTIVE LABEL HE COULD HAVE SIGNED J ROCK, GLASSES, PROB, AND NIPSEY AND PUT THEM OUT BY NOW!!!, REALLY IF AFTHERMATH WENT HARDAND PUT OUT RECORDS LIKE CASHMONEY THE WEST WOULD BE FINE!!!!
 

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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2008, 03:31:21 PM »
But Aftermath isn't Westcoast!!!  And were all tired of dealing with Dre and his slow ass label.


Time to create something strictly for the westcoast that puts on it's own.
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 03:56:18 PM »
But Aftermath isn't Westcoast!!!  And were all tired of dealing with Dre and his slow ass label.


Time to create something strictly for the westcoast that puts on it's own.

yeaaa i feel that 100%..... theres a few issues.... arise.. fist off i tihnk that the west as a side is not unified enough.. there are to many lables. every one wants to be boss. i mean theres lots of great rappers but these days im more into the ogs like celly quik eiht atl 4tay... id rather see the ogs come back and do big that new cats doin big.. thats just my honest opinion.. but techniec dubb union and other new cats with talent need more exposure.. i buy hip hop records on a daily basis. i surport the music. and to be honest id like to see all these cats doin hard work get something back.. i wish good thigns to happen for them hard workers

 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2008, 04:10:55 PM »
Honestly I don't think we want any of them running a label... maybe maybe Cube but none of the others.  Dre takes forever to put out a record and don't put on the west.  Ice T don't really fuck with rap anymore.  Snoop.. well I like him but his production and features and shit just don't work.  I think he would be horrible at running a label.  Cube, WC & Crazy Toones are the closest to putting some real westcoast shit together.
  Actually, Cube would be the worst out of them all. Does nobody remember the whole Lench Mob fiasco and various other business issues? Cube is constantly busy between doing records and making movies.

I don't think the West Coast competing with a major label like Interscope or Arista is even a reality. And it's not just a West thing. For any upstart label to just come together and compete with the biggest money-making companies in the world is not gonna happen. For starters, you are talking about building a company around artist C.E.O.'s (producers are still artists at heart) and anytime you have that, you have problems especially when you mix one or two. You also need a superstar who has both a business mind and a willingness to create new stars. You don't have a Dr. Dre fresh off of Ruthless waiting around these days. Just look at the Death Row situation and keep in mind that Death Row was in bed with Jimmy Iovine, not trying to go head to head with him. They had Dre who was a marketable name that they could build on based off his involvement in the success of N.W.A. and was willing to work in bringing in new talent like Snoop, RBX, etc. He also had competition with Eazy and Ruthless, which brought a lot of interest to the table.

There's nothing like that right now. I can't think of any names on the West Coast that would be big enough to pull something like this off, have the business savy, and be able to maintain their egos when things started to bubble. It needs to be a gradual process. I think something could have happened in 2005 when Snoop and Game were building toward West unity but that momentum came and went and isn't likely to come back. In order for there to be a chance at a major West label, there needs to be more than one active West Coast artist that is doing big numbers. A lot of it will depend on whether the West Coast artists that are already on major labels (Bishop Lamont, Glasses Malone) end up dropping albums that are hits. You can have a hundred-million dollar company with nothing but West Coast artists and producers but if the sales demographic is only West Coast fans, it's just a "money pit". There ain't no short cuts. If there was money that could be made out West right now, there would be major labels checking for it. And who is gonna want to put the kind of money it would require to start this movement up if there is no considerable profit to be made. It's a common sense thing. Business men aren't gonna care where the product is coming from. They're looking at one thing. The bottom line. 
 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2008, 04:37:29 PM »
SEE YOU HAVE TO CREATE HYPE, NIGGAZ DONT KNOW HOW TO CREATE HYPE, WHEN GAME CAME OUT ON GUNIT, THE HYPE SURROUNDING THAT WAS PERFECT, GAME COULD HAVE SOLD PLATINUM OFF HYPE, I DIDNT HEAR HIM RAP, BUT I KNEW ABOUT HIM, IF A OLDER CAT JUST CO-SIGN A NIGGA THAT CREATES HYPE, JUST CO-SIGN, "DRE COULD GO ON 106 AND PARK WHENEVER HE FEELS LIKE IT AND TAKE BISHOP WIT HIM AND TELL THE CROWD WHEN TO BUY HIS ALBUM AND GET THE VIDEO PLAYED THAT HOUR ON BET" LETS SAY BISHOP ALBUM CAME OUT 2 WEEK AFTER THAT,  8) INSTANT HYPE!!!!!!!!! COPIES SOLD, AT LEAST 250,000, THEN DO THE SAME FOR NIPSEY AND PROB, ...................................I GET IT!!!, TO BAD DRE OR SNOOP DONT

 

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Re: What would it take...
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2008, 04:41:28 PM »
SEE YOU HAVE TO CREATE HYPE, NIGGAZ DONT KNOW HOW TO CREATE HYPE, WHEN GAME CAME OUT ON GUNIT, THE HYPE SURROUNDING THAT WAS PERFECT, GAME COULD HAVE SOLD PLATINUM OFF HYPE, I DIDNT HEAR HIM RAP, BUT I KNEW ABOUT HIM, IF A OLDER CAT JUST CO-SIGN A NIGGA THAT CREATES HYPE, JUST CO-SIGN, "DRE COULD GO ON 106 AND PARK WHENEVER HE FEELS LIKE IT AND TAKE BISHOP WIT HIM AND TELL THE CROWD WHEN TO BUY HIS ALBUM AND GET THE VIDEO PLAYED THAT HOUR ON BET" LETS SAY BISHOP ALBUM CAME OUT 2 WEEK AFTER THAT,  8) INSTANT HYPE!!!!!!!!! COPIES SOLD, AT LEAST 250,000, THEN DO THE SAME FOR NIPSEY AND PROB, ...................................I GET IT!!!, TO BAD DRE OR SNOOP DONT






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