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Quote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 05:20:07 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features.... I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...
Quote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
Quote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Quote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:28:22 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 05:20:07 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features.... I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. Same thing here -these kinds of rappers have to make something different to attempt to get the sales... so if they fail its not really a big deal.and this song worked for me, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.
Quote from: R1ZE on November 22, 2008, 05:34:42 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:28:22 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 05:20:07 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features.... I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. If an albums gonna be mostly car/club music and the singles wack, then yeah, you can expect the album to be wack too. But if the albums gonna be different, then you get into this kind of situation.The point is these kinds of rappers feel the pressure to make this kind of music in an attempt to get sales... so if they fail it shouldnt be a big deal to the core fanbase - they knew this music wasnt for them. You give and you take, right?this song worked for me tho, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.Omg are you guys serious?? Nas and Budden are the only two you say?? I'm gonna have to name names I guess.Albums where the single wasn't a smash mainstream epic-produced song, but the album was banging:Q-Tip - The RenaissanceAtmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons88 KeysLittle Brother (almost every album)Jedi Mind TricksPlanet Asia - Pain LanguageSway - The Signature LPJoe Budden (all except for self-titledStatik Selektah's albumsjust some recent releases i could think of..AKA: GOOD HIP-HOP
Quote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:28:22 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 05:20:07 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features.... I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. If an albums gonna be mostly car/club music and the singles wack, then yeah, you can expect the album to be wack too. But if the albums gonna be different, then you get into this kind of situation.The point is these kinds of rappers feel the pressure to make this kind of music in an attempt to get sales... so if they fail it shouldnt be a big deal to the core fanbase - they knew this music wasnt for them. You give and you take, right?this song worked for me tho, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.
Quote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 06:05:14 PMQuote from: R1ZE on November 22, 2008, 05:34:42 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:28:22 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 05:20:07 PMQuote from: The-Leak on November 22, 2008, 05:08:28 PMQuote from: Meho on November 22, 2008, 04:54:31 AMPeople here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features.... I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. If an albums gonna be mostly car/club music and the singles wack, then yeah, you can expect the album to be wack too. But if the albums gonna be different, then you get into this kind of situation.The point is these kinds of rappers feel the pressure to make this kind of music in an attempt to get sales... so if they fail it shouldnt be a big deal to the core fanbase - they knew this music wasnt for them. You give and you take, right?this song worked for me tho, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.Omg are you guys serious?? Nas and Budden are the only two you say?? I'm gonna have to name names I guess.Albums where the single wasn't a smash mainstream epic-produced song, but the album was banging:Q-Tip - The RenaissanceAtmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons88 KeysLittle Brother (almost every album)Jedi Mind TricksPlanet Asia - Pain LanguageSway - The Signature LPJoe Budden (all except for self-titledStatik Selektah's albumsjust some recent releases i could think of..AKA: GOOD HIP-HOPnah, i never meant they were the only two. I just meant these guys are the exception when it comes to hip-hop, since they're mainstream but still struggle to sell/get played. I was just too lazy to list all those ^
many mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - Nas
Quote from: Lunatic 63 on November 23, 2008, 08:43:58 AMmany mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - Nasyou didn't like "Hero"?
Quote from: BloodMoney2008 on November 23, 2008, 08:45:31 AMQuote from: Lunatic 63 on November 23, 2008, 08:43:58 AMmany mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - Nasyou didn't like "Hero"?it was alright; money make the world go round was avg as well..both weren't horrible, but aren't what im lookin for in nas..
I love Hero and I love Untiteld. T.I. and Luda's album are both alright, nothing special or even close to being a classic. Let's not forget that a wack single is already 1 track that you skip on the cd. And I can understand when rappers on a major label have poppy singles, they are most likely forced by the label execs, especially in these times. I don't understand when artist that are on an independant label do it, which leads me again to no balance in rap music lately.
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