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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2009, 10:54:19 AM »
nah its all good
not everyone believes in this by the way
the cats that believe in it should hold a press meetin, cuz there are many who dont




You are naive... simply because addiction isn't a "belief" its actually something that exists
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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2009, 10:56:13 AM »
I guarantee you are addicted to at least 1 thing..and anyone who doesn't "believe" in it... well... isn't a very intelligent person lmao. Sorry for your luck my friend  ::)
 

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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2009, 11:04:40 AM »
im not addicted to nuthin
nuthin at all
i like to......whatever that is, but not addicted
dont feel sorry for me, im good, i feel sorry for the cats that think theyre addicted, but they not



I guarantee you are addicted to at least 1 thing..and anyone who doesn't "believe" in it... well... isn't a very intelligent person lmao. Sorry for your luck my friend  ::)
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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2009, 11:13:51 AM »
respect everyones input
jus dont believe in it


Let's go back to your original post.  You pitted addiction versus choice.  "You aren't addicted, you have chosen it."  So when you eat 4 pizzas a day, it's your choice..  You're not addicted to an obviously unhealthy amount of pizzas a day, it's your choice to put your body at risk more than you know it should be??  Why do you eat the 4 pizzas a day?  Because they are so good, you get an impulse.  Why not eat the best tasting food over something else?? 

Your mind knows it's not good for you, you know it's not good for you. But for some reason you can't resist the impulse, and you don't care about the consequences..  You are now putting your health at risk to make yourself feel better.  Are you eating the pizzas because you are addicted, or because you only live once and want to enjoy the things that you enjoy?

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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2009, 11:18:57 AM »
first off good lookin on havin this debate in a gangsta manner (that was my intention)
but yeah IMO thats 300% choice
great example, but thats the problem its a great example of a choice




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Let's go back to your original post.  You pitted addiction versus choice.  "You aren't addicted, you have chosen it."  So when you eat 4 pizzas a day, it's your choice..  You're not addicted to an obviously unhealthy amount of pizzas a day, it's your choice to put your body at risk more than you know it should be??  Why do you eat the 4 pizzas a day?  Because they are so good, you get an impulse.  Why not eat the best tasting food over something else?? 

Your mind knows it's not good for you, you know it's not good for you. But for some reason you can't resist the impulse, and you don't care about the consequences..  You are now putting your health at risk to make yourself feel better.  Are you eating the pizzas because you are addicted, or because you only live once and want to enjoy the things that you enjoy?
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine flu
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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2009, 02:00:20 PM »
youre stupid
 

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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2009, 02:47:51 PM »
people who are addicted to drugs dont have a choice, until they forcibly kick the habit (NA/rehab/etc).  the drug fucks with their brain so much, they may THINK they have a choice, but they dont.  they may wake up and say "i want to get high".  their junkie mind makes em think its their choice to shoot up or chase the dragon, but its not.  its the drug manipulating them into thinking they dont NEED the drug and that its their choice to get high.  lock up a junkie in a room for 12 hours, and that "want" becomes a very real "need"...at least in the junkies mind.  because of course NO ONE needs crack/meth/heroin to survive, but they think they do.  and when their bodies dont get it, they literally become sick.  theyve become dependent on the drug to live a "normal" day to day life. 






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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2009, 02:49:28 PM »
real shit but Id say thats different than bein addicted





people who are addicted to drugs dont have a choice, until they forcibly kick the habit (NA/rehab/etc).  the drug fucks with their brain so much, they may THINK they have a choice, but they dont.  they may wake up and say "i want to get high".  their junkie mind makes em thing its their choice to shoot up or chase the dragon, but its not.  its the drug manipulating them into thinking they dont NEED the drug and that its their choice to get high.  lock up a junkie in a room for 12 hours, and that "want" becomes a very real "need"...at least in the junkies mind.  because of course NO ONE needs crack/meth/heroin to survive, but they think they do.  and when their bodies dont get it, they literally become sick.  theyve become dependent on the drug to live a "normal" day to day life. 




damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine flu
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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2009, 02:51:43 PM »
real shit but Id say thats different than bein addicted





people who are addicted to drugs dont have a choice, until they forcibly kick the habit (NA/rehab/etc).  the drug fucks with their brain so much, they may THINK they have a choice, but they dont.  they may wake up and say "i want to get high".  their junkie mind makes em thing its their choice to shoot up or chase the dragon, but its not.  its the drug manipulating them into thinking they dont NEED the drug and that its their choice to get high.  lock up a junkie in a room for 12 hours, and that "want" becomes a very real "need"...at least in the junkies mind.  because of course NO ONE needs crack/meth/heroin to survive, but they think they do.  and when their bodies dont get it, they literally become sick.  theyve become dependent on the drug to live a "normal" day to day life. 





how is that different? 



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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2009, 02:57:04 PM »
i see it bein different in a sense
lock em in a room, they want it but they can come up with other ways to handle they shit, therefore its not an addiction

i mean homie said ask a doctor, doctors are even sayin there might not be such a thing




real shit but Id say thats different than bein addicted





people who are addicted to drugs dont have a choice, until they forcibly kick the habit (NA/rehab/etc).  the drug fucks with their brain so much, they may THINK they have a choice, but they dont.  they may wake up and say "i want to get high".  their junkie mind makes em thing its their choice to shoot up or chase the dragon, but its not.  its the drug manipulating them into thinking they dont NEED the drug and that its their choice to get high.  lock up a junkie in a room for 12 hours, and that "want" becomes a very real "need"...at least in the junkies mind.  because of course NO ONE needs crack/meth/heroin to survive, but they think they do.  and when their bodies dont get it, they literally become sick.  theyve become dependent on the drug to live a "normal" day to day life. 





how is that different? 
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine flu
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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2009, 03:01:20 PM »
i see it bein different in a sense
lock em in a room, they want it but they can come up with other ways to handle they shit, therefore its not an addiction

i mean homie said ask a doctor, doctors are even sayin there might not be such a thing




real shit but Id say thats different than bein addicted





people who are addicted to drugs dont have a choice, until they forcibly kick the habit (NA/rehab/etc).  the drug fucks with their brain so much, they may THINK they have a choice, but they dont.  they may wake up and say "i want to get high".  their junkie mind makes em thing its their choice to shoot up or chase the dragon, but its not.  its the drug manipulating them into thinking they dont NEED the drug and that its their choice to get high.  lock up a junkie in a room for 12 hours, and that "want" becomes a very real "need"...at least in the junkies mind.  because of course NO ONE needs crack/meth/heroin to survive, but they think they do.  and when their bodies dont get it, they literally become sick.  theyve become dependent on the drug to live a "normal" day to day life. 





how is that different? 

if you lock em up in a room, its NOT their choice.  YOURE the one locking them in, taking their freewill away.  if theyre locked in a room, they have NO choice but to stay in there...but belive me, that junkie is gonna try and do anything and everything to get out of that room to get their drug of choice. 

if they had a choice they would go out and cop to get high and fuck staying in a locked room while theyre getting sick. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2009, 03:04:10 PM »
goddamm, allright you can get physically addicted to some drugs to where youll get sick if you dont take it, you are physically addicted. THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET CLEAN AND REMAIN CLEAN. it means that you are physically addicted which makes getting clean much harder than just "willing" yourself off the drugs. there is no input or opinions about that it is a fact
 

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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2009, 03:44:19 AM »
addiction can be broken, doesnt mean it cant exist, you can be addicted to something and beat the addiction. really quite simple.
 

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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2009, 05:06:57 AM »
i see it bein different in a sense
lock em in a room, they want it but they can come up with other ways to handle they shit, therefore its not an addiction

i mean homie said ask a doctor, doctors are even sayin there might not be such a thing




real shit but Id say thats different than bein addicted





people who are addicted to drugs dont have a choice, until they forcibly kick the habit (NA/rehab/etc).  the drug fucks with their brain so much, they may THINK they have a choice, but they dont.  they may wake up and say "i want to get high".  their junkie mind makes em thing its their choice to shoot up or chase the dragon, but its not.  its the drug manipulating them into thinking they dont NEED the drug and that its their choice to get high.  lock up a junkie in a room for 12 hours, and that "want" becomes a very real "need"...at least in the junkies mind.  because of course NO ONE needs crack/meth/heroin to survive, but they think they do.  and when their bodies dont get it, they literally become sick.  theyve become dependent on the drug to live a "normal" day to day life. 





how is that different? 

if you lock em up in a room, its NOT their choice.  YOURE the one locking them in, taking their freewill away.  if theyre locked in a room, they have NO choice but to stay in there...but belive me, that junkie is gonna try and do anything and everything to get out of that room to get their drug of choice. 

if they had a choice they would go out and cop to get high and fuck staying in a locked room while theyre getting sick. 


Yup, addiction is mental.  And for the physical addiction, its your body reacting to not having it, like when you a diabetic, if you dont get enough insulin your body will start shutting you down, whether you want the insulin or not. 

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Re: DO YOU BELIEVE IN "ADDICTION"???
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2009, 03:59:39 PM »
think what you want I guess
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine flu
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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2009, 04:53:00 PM »
Everything in life is a choice...addiction will cause you to make the wrong choice.  If people have an extreme desire to quit smoking cigs, and they go several days w/o one, but then all of a sudden they get stressed and then have one, yes, they made the choice to have one, but they knew it was the wrong choice.  The addiction caused that choice.
 

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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2009, 05:01:52 PM »
thats where we disagree I guess






Everything in life is a choice...addiction will cause you to make the wrong choice.  If people have an extreme desire to quit smoking cigs, and they go several days w/o one, but then all of a sudden they get stressed and then have one, yes, they made the choice to have one, but they knew it was the wrong choice.  The addiction caused that choice.
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2009, 05:48:49 PM »
i believe in addiction.

i'm 26
i smoke cigs since i was 15. stilla smoker
i smoke weed since i was 12. stilla smoker
drinking heavily tha last 4-5 years. still an alcy
 

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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2009, 12:47:01 PM »
i guess you haven't had a family member who had a problem with crack to really see addiction for what it is. it's very real and can ruin your life in certain cases

i smoke weed every day... don't think i'm addicted though. i've gone through stints in which i didn't smoke for a couple of weeks (around christmas time to save money for presents) i don't have any physical addictions thank god.

it's easy to get addicted to shit. hell, you can get addicted to diet coke.
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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2009, 12:52:55 PM »
You choose to take something addictive, but you may not necessarily choose to become addicted to it.
 

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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2009, 01:08:06 PM »
i know all about coke/crack

i watched my brother who had it all.....family/kids/good job.....loose it all and attempt suicide just 2 weeks ago on account of that chit (he tried to OD on someone elses MEDS. so i know all about it......tried it (Hell! I Even Smoked Crack Wit Him & I'm Just Being Real). but i stick with my chronic and will continue to do so (I Don't Fuck Wit That Chit Anymore!). Yeah dat. Tried It All! Just Never Touched The Needle.
 

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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2009, 01:18:12 PM »
I choose to become addicted to dubcc,it be one hell of a thing to leave too

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« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2009, 07:58:07 PM »
I just went through hell from being addicted to Klonopin for about a year

I still have the urge to pop a few now and then but just smoke some weed instead and it ends up getting me more anxious

never had that problem before
 

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« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2009, 08:17:40 PM »
yeah but cats werent addicted to weed when they were born.....
neither were they addicted to milk
they chose to drink milk
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« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2009, 08:37:38 PM »
yeah but cats werent addicted to weed when they were born.....
neither were they addicted to milk
they chose to drink milk

of course no one is addicted to milk..no one is saying milk causes an addiction.



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