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Life is full of unaswered question's..
« on: April 02, 2009, 06:09:32 AM »
so does death give u all the answers ?
 

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 06:26:02 AM »
You should know, because you must be brain dead to be asking such questions.
 

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 07:57:56 AM »
You should know, because you must be brain dead to be asking such questions.

Well since you know all the answers why don't you enlighten us?
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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 08:06:06 AM »
so does death give u all the answers ?

Life is like a school and Allah is the teacher.  So we go through life with many questions.  But keep those questions at the forefront of your mind, because Allah's attributes can penetrate the Earthly realm and offer us insight as long as we stay aware and conscious of what we need to know.   There is a veil between the living world and the unseen world.  The Sufi's say if one conquers their lower desires, through denial (or possibly satisfaction of them), that that person can then learns secrets unknown to others.   By dying and passing into this unknown realm, we also gain consciousness of many things that were previously unseen and unknown to us; as you say unanswered questions.  Traditional Islamic belief teaches of a Day of Judgement, when all actions are weighed and judged by the All-Knowing creator, and all things good and bad made manifest and clear.  However, one must not wait until this day, and while in this life and earthly realm there is time to seek knowledge and gain insight, answers to our deepest questions.
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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 11:08:45 AM »
You should know, because you must be brain dead to be asking such questions.

Well since you know all the answers why don't you enlighten us?

If we're really going to go into this question, we'll first need to clear up a few things. Momo sees life as being full of unanswered questions. Where do these questions come from? Are they intrinsic to life, or are they subjective and context based?
And most importantly: what is life, and what is death? You can't answer any such question without answering that one first.

If death is the polar opposite of life, and life is existence, that means death is nonexistence. If life is energy and growth, while death is its opposite, death can give you no answers because acquiring an answer would be a growth of knowledge. In fact, a dead person couldn't have any questions, because to question is to be alive. Death is a zero, and there's no multiplying upon a zero.

The only way death can give you any answer at all is if death isn't the polar opposite of life. Either you would assume life doesn't end after your body dies, or life would have to be some mixed state, which death is already a part of. Both approaches basically come down to the same principle anyway, and it's all vagueness and corrupted thinking.
Define life, and define death. You'll see that the principles of one dictate the principles of the other, ruling out the possibility for questions to exist during both.

And in case death would give you all the answers, where would you get those answers from? As if the knowledge about these answers suddenly "is," once you're dead?

Death doesn't give you any answers - it merely takes the questions away.

So long.
 

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 11:10:57 AM »
so does death give u all the answers ?

Life is like a school and Allah is the teacher.  So we go through life with many questions.  But keep those questions at the forefront of your mind, because Allah's attributes can penetrate the Earthly realm and offer us insight as long as we stay aware and conscious of what we need to know.   There is a veil between the living world and the unseen world.  The Sufi's say if one conquers their lower desires, through denial (or possibly satisfaction of them), that that person can then learns secrets unknown to others.   By dying and passing into this unknown realm, we also gain consciousness of many things that were previously unseen and unknown to us; as you say unanswered questions.  Traditional Islamic belief teaches of a Day of Judgement, when all actions are weighed and judged by the All-Knowing creator, and all things good and bad made manifest and clear.  However, one must not wait until this day, and while in this life and earthly realm there is time to seek knowledge and gain insight, answers to our deepest questions.



Are you religious?
 

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 06:07:21 PM »
You should know, because you must be brain dead to be asking such questions.

Well since you know all the answers why don't you enlighten us?

If we're really going to go into this question, we'll first need to clear up a few things. Momo sees life as being full of unanswered questions. Where do these questions come from? Are they intrinsic to life, or are they subjective and context based?
And most importantly: what is life, and what is death? You can't answer any such question without answering that one first.

If death is the polar opposite of life, and life is existence, that means death is nonexistence. If life is energy and growth, while death is its opposite, death can give you no answers because acquiring an answer would be a growth of knowledge. In fact, a dead person couldn't have any questions, because to question is to be alive. Death is a zero, and there's no multiplying upon a zero.

The only way death can give you any answer at all is if death isn't the polar opposite of life. Either you would assume life doesn't end after your body dies, or life would have to be some mixed state, which death is already a part of. Both approaches basically come down to the same principle anyway, and it's all vagueness and corrupted thinking.
Define life, and define death. You'll see that the principles of one dictate the principles of the other, ruling out the possibility for questions to exist during both.

And in case death would give you all the answers, where would you get those answers from? As if the knowledge about these answers suddenly "is," once you're dead?

Death doesn't give you any answers - it merely takes the questions away.

So long.

Well said sir. Well said.
 

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 06:11:35 PM »

Are you religious?


I believe the religion of Islam has many positive qualities that I incorporate into my life.  Such as...

-Can focus the mind on the highest power, thus re-directing us from the often low condition man finds himself in at times
-Creates trust and understanding between two individuals that otherwise may not be able to benefit from each other
-It's an active religion.  Involving intense prayer, study, fasting, contemplation; which gives the worshiper a sense of accomplishment
-It's history fascinates me.  Islam spread to most of the world, so Islam is one context in which one can study world history


Where I differ from orthodox Islam...

-I understand that no two people are alike, and that everyone is dealing with their own set of circumstances.  So absolute truth does not always work for everybody.  What's true for one person at one time, may not be true for another person in another place and time.  Because the truth is not an end in itself, but rather the truth is a means to an end; it has a purpose.  We want to know the truth so we can better predict future outcomes, and do what is best for us.  So what is true and works for one person, may not be true and work for another.
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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 04:02:26 AM »
Islam spread to most of the world, so Islam is one context in which one can study world history

Does it matter whether or not Islam spread to most of the world? Why should that make it a better context for studying the history of the world?
 

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 06:28:02 AM »
Islam spread to most of the world, so Islam is one context in which one can study world history

Does it matter whether or not Islam spread to most of the world? Why should that make it a better context for studying the history of the world?

Well if I was studying David Karresh and the branch Davidian your talkin about a small religious group that only existed for a very short time.

Yet if you talk about Islamic history, it is over an extended period of time and deals with Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe: along with their encounters, battles, or minority populations within the Western world.
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"I will make records as big or bigger than Death Row".   -Dre, Source 1996

"I didn't do nothing but make people money and I didn't leave nobody high and dry.  Any album (on death row) people are going to check for.  But it's time for Dre to worry about Dre.  I'm focused on the new Snoop Doggs, not like that but you know what I mean."

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-Dre, Rolling Stones mag 1999 Em cover

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Re: Life is full of unaswered question's..
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 07:41:52 AM »
You should know, because you must be brain dead to be asking such questions.

Well since you know all the answers why don't you enlighten us?

If we're really going to go into this question, we'll first need to clear up a few things. Momo sees life as being full of unanswered questions. Where do these questions come from? Are they intrinsic to life, or are they subjective and context based?
And most importantly: what is life, and what is death? You can't answer any such question without answering that one first.

If death is the polar opposite of life, and life is existence, that means death is nonexistence. If life is energy and growth, while death is its opposite, death can give you no answers because acquiring an answer would be a growth of knowledge. In fact, a dead person couldn't have any questions, because to question is to be alive. Death is a zero, and there's no multiplying upon a zero.

The only way death can give you any answer at all is if death isn't the polar opposite of life. Either you would assume life doesn't end after your body dies, or life would have to be some mixed state, which death is already a part of. Both approaches basically come down to the same principle anyway, and it's all vagueness and corrupted thinking.
Define life, and define death. You'll see that the principles of one dictate the principles of the other, ruling out the possibility for questions to exist during both.

And in case death would give you all the answers, where would you get those answers from? As if the knowledge about these answers suddenly "is," once you're dead?

Death doesn't give you any answers - it merely takes the questions away.

So long.

Good. But why would either of those approaches be vague and corrupted?

All we know for sure about death is that it is the end of the body.

We also know that our bodies are constantly dying and being re-born, constantly in a state of death and repair. 
 

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 03:40:20 AM »
Islam spread to most of the world, so Islam is one context in which one can study world history

Does it matter whether or not Islam spread to most of the world? Why should that make it a better context for studying the history of the world?

Well if I was studying David Karresh and the branch Davidian your talkin about a small religious group that only existed for a very short time.

Yet if you talk about Islamic history, it is over an extended period of time and deals with Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe: along with their encounters, battles, or minority populations within the Western world.

It helps to explain some of those parts of the world you mentioned, that's true, but don't overgeneralize.
 

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 03:52:44 AM »
You should know, because you must be brain dead to be asking such questions.

Well since you know all the answers why don't you enlighten us?

If we're really going to go into this question, we'll first need to clear up a few things. Momo sees life as being full of unanswered questions. Where do these questions come from? Are they intrinsic to life, or are they subjective and context based?
And most importantly: what is life, and what is death? You can't answer any such question without answering that one first.

If death is the polar opposite of life, and life is existence, that means death is nonexistence. If life is energy and growth, while death is its opposite, death can give you no answers because acquiring an answer would be a growth of knowledge. In fact, a dead person couldn't have any questions, because to question is to be alive. Death is a zero, and there's no multiplying upon a zero.

The only way death can give you any answer at all is if death isn't the polar opposite of life. Either you would assume life doesn't end after your body dies, or life would have to be some mixed state, which death is already a part of. Both approaches basically come down to the same principle anyway, and it's all vagueness and corrupted thinking.
Define life, and define death. You'll see that the principles of one dictate the principles of the other, ruling out the possibility for questions to exist during both.

And in case death would give you all the answers, where would you get those answers from? As if the knowledge about these answers suddenly "is," once you're dead?

Death doesn't give you any answers - it merely takes the questions away.

So long.

Good. But why would either of those approaches be vague and corrupted?

All we know for sure about death is that it is the end of the body.

We also know that our bodies are constantly dying and being re-born, constantly in a state of death and repair. 

The vagueness lies in not knowing what death or life supposedly is and means.
That is something that comes naturally with the uncertainty about a miraculous afterlife. It's a state of hoping for life not to end (thus holding on to the thought of a new life after this one -obviously- ends), and therefore attributing characteristic elements of life to the non-life. It's an evasion of death.
Corrupted thinking, made possible through vagueness.