* * * Eminem - Relapse Tracklist * * *

[Lucifuge]

why you on every theard??

[Chamillitary Click]

hopefully he gets deep with this shit.

I have heard that thats gunna be more-so on the Relapse 2 ... sequal is meant to be the serious album... Relapse is just a fun/lighter album...

sounds good, i cant wait for both.

when is 2 suppose to drop? later in the year?

[Rebel]

For those interested, here's the real reason Em is putting out two albums. Em initially made the album that he and Dre wanted to make... but Jimmy Iovine wasn't happy with it due to lack of commercial singles. Jimmy wanted more radio-friendly singles and that pissed Em off. So him and Dre extended their recording sessions and made enough materiel for two LPs. RELAPSE is the one that Jimmy Iovine wanted. RELAPSE 2 is more geared towards Em and Dre's initial version of the album. So that's why Em decided to put out another album... so he could release the music he and Dre WANTED to release in the first place.

In a way, RELAPSE and RELAPSE 2 are the same album... if you put them together and removed the radio-Iovine-friendly singles you'd come pretty close to Em and Dre's original vision for a comeback album.

50 Cent is pretty much going through the same thing right now. Which is why he said he would release two albums alongside Em's.

[Lunatic]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

[D-Nice]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

More money in his pocket.

[Rebel]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

Because the way Hip Hop sales have been dropping dramatically the last few years. That's why nobody from the Math came out last year. Iovine/Interscope was not going to release or back anyone from the label unless they were garanteed to sell. So the next album to come out of Aftermath had to make Interscope/Iovine money for it to come out. Since RELAPSE is supposed to set the business tone back towards Aftermath/Interscope, he had more say and control over it. He wanted to reach the young teen and female audience as well so he made Em put out a single like "We Made You" (btw, this is no defence to Em for this cause he's made radio-friendly singles that were dope...i.e. The Real Slim Shady, My Name Is...) "We Made You" is far from dope, haha.

If RELAPSE comes out,makes Interscope back some money and brings some media hype back to Aftermath again... and if 50 does the same in the summer, than Iovine will be satasfied enough to where the money is coming in from all urban demographics. Hence, more artistic leeway from the artists to release projects they have more say in (RELAPSE 2, DETOX and The Reformation).

[Larrabee]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

Because the way Hip Hop sales have been dropping dramatically the last few years. That's why nobody from the Math came out last year. Iovine/Interscope was not going to release or back anyone from the label unless they were garanteed to sell. So the next album to come out of Aftermath had to make Interscope/Iovine money for it to come out. Since RELAPSE is supposed to set the business tone back towards Aftermath/Interscope, he had more say and control over it. He wanted to reach the young teen and female audience as well so he made Em put out a single like "We Made You" (btw, this is no defence to Em for this cause he's made radio-friendly singles that were dope...i.e. The Real Slim Shady, My Name Is...) "We Made You" is far from dope, haha.

If RELAPSE comes out,makes Interscope back some money and brings some media hype back to Aftermath again... and if 50 does the same in the summer, than Iovine will be satasfied enough to where the money is coming in from all urban demographics. Hence, more artistic leeway from the artists to release projects they have more say in (RELAPSE 2, DETOX and The Reformation).

Makes sense if you ask me. Getting Jimmy Iovine to green light an album is impossible unless you have what he feels are hit records. I'm curious to see what happens when he starts rejecting Dre singles. If they come out.

[Action!]

I think Detox would sell crazy even if Em didn't drop.

[LyRiCaL_G]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

Because the way Hip Hop sales have been dropping dramatically the last few years. That's why nobody from the Math came out last year. Iovine/Interscope was not going to release or back anyone from the label unless they were garanteed to sell. So the next album to come out of Aftermath had to make Interscope/Iovine money for it to come out. Since RELAPSE is supposed to set the business tone back towards Aftermath/Interscope, he had more say and control over it. He wanted to reach the young teen and female audience as well so he made Em put out a single like "We Made You" (btw, this is no defence to Em for this cause he's made radio-friendly singles that were dope...i.e. The Real Slim Shady, My Name Is...) "We Made You" is far from dope, haha.

If RELAPSE comes out,makes Interscope back some money and brings some media hype back to Aftermath again... and if 50 does the same in the summer, than Iovine will be satasfied enough to where the money is coming in from all urban demographics. Hence, more artistic leeway from the artists to release projects they have more say in (RELAPSE 2, DETOX and The Reformation).

Makes sense if you ask me. Getting Jimmy Iovine to green light an album is impossible unless you have what he feels are hit records. I'm curious to see what happens when he starts rejecting Dre singles. If they come out.

Dre has total control for his album.

Rebel how did u find out this info? Im not questioning you because you've ceom good numerous times through your website too but im wondering what and how solid your source is?

Because as much as it makes sense, it could just be being used to make excuses for the poor openings for this album and to keep hope and hype up for both this album and relapse 2.

I dont like the way jimmy iovine is getting too involved though if its true. However some classic eminem records would never have been made if he never asked for more recording sessions either so its a two way thing. However you have to have limits and at this stage in eminems career, he should be allowed to put out whatever he wants without jimmy getting too involved.

[D1G1T4L]

i doubt jimmy would let the album come out if he wasnt happy with it.. i mean look what happened to bunch of artists that were on aftermath

[akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

I dont like the way jimmy iovine is getting too involved though if its true. However some classic eminem records would never have been made if he never asked for more recording sessions either so its a two way thing. However you have to have limits and at this stage in eminems career, he should be allowed to put out whatever he wants without jimmy getting too involved.

Clearly if Em/Dre/50 and the rest of the math want to put out whatever they feel like.. they need to sign to wherever Snoop or Lil Wayne sign to.. they seem to be able to drop some crap records lately LOL

[J$crILLa]

cant wait for this too drop~~!!!!!

[Rebel]

^but then why would Iovine allow the 2nd album to see the light of day if he ain't happy with it?

Because the way Hip Hop sales have been dropping dramatically the last few years. That's why nobody from the Math came out last year. Iovine/Interscope was not going to release or back anyone from the label unless they were garanteed to sell. So the next album to come out of Aftermath had to make Interscope/Iovine money for it to come out. Since RELAPSE is supposed to set the business tone back towards Aftermath/Interscope, he had more say and control over it. He wanted to reach the young teen and female audience as well so he made Em put out a single like "We Made You" (btw, this is no defence to Em for this cause he's made radio-friendly singles that were dope...i.e. The Real Slim Shady, My Name Is...) "We Made You" is far from dope, haha.

If RELAPSE comes out,makes Interscope back some money and brings some media hype back to Aftermath again... and if 50 does the same in the summer, than Iovine will be satasfied enough to where the money is coming in from all urban demographics. Hence, more artistic leeway from the artists to release projects they have more say in (RELAPSE 2, DETOX and The Reformation).

Makes sense if you ask me. Getting Jimmy Iovine to green light an album is impossible unless you have what he feels are hit records. I'm curious to see what happens when he starts rejecting Dre singles. If they come out.

Dre has total control for his album.

Rebel how did u find out this info? Im not questioning you because you've ceom good numerous times through your website too but im wondering what and how solid your source is?

Because as much as it makes sense, it could just be being used to make excuses for the poor openings for this album and to keep hope and hype up for both this album and relapse 2.

I dont like the way jimmy iovine is getting too involved though if its true. However some classic eminem records would never have been made if he never asked for more recording sessions either so its a two way thing. However you have to have limits and at this stage in eminems career, he should be allowed to put out whatever he wants without jimmy getting too involved.

Dre HAD 100% control... until the Hip Hop industry started dying finacially. Who's idea do you think it was to record with Lil' Wayne for DETOX or use autotune? Iovine is taking a complete corperate approach to the music Interscope distributes now. The only way things will go back to what they were and for Dre to have 100% control over DETOX again is for RELAPSE and BISD to be a success. If they are and money starts coming back to Interscope, then RELAPSE 2, 50's possible follow-up to BISD, DETOX and The Reformation will have more creative backing than corperate "dictations".

Where I get the info? Well obviously I can't name my sources... but they are people who are in the inner workings of the Math; musically and business-wise.

[Meho]

Sounds like an excuse to me. I mean I know that Jimmy probably dictates 2,3 tracks but the whole album ? I don't believe that. He's not that dumb. But if this is true you also have to wonder if Dre & Em actually have any balls.

The only way I'm gonna believe this theory is if the first one sucks and the 2nd one is a masterpiece.  But I doubt that will happen, they'll probably both be solid albums.

[Dre-Day]

Sounds like an excuse to me. I mean I know that Jimmy probably dictates 2,3 tracks but the whole album ? I don't believe that. He's not that dumb. But if this is true you also have to wonder if Dre & Em actually have any balls.

The only way I'm gonna believe this theory is if the first one sucks and the 2nd one is a masterpiece.  But I doubt that will happen, they'll probably both be solid albums.

lol i doubt that