Author Topic: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..  (Read 2259 times)

Mista Rosa

hope they will release some nate dogg too
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looks promising, I wonder if they got that LBC crew album? what about the Sam Sneed album?

they definitely got the lbc crew album



 

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By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I think she just meant that the production on "All Eyez on Me" sounded a bit more polished than on "7 Day Theory."  At least, I think that's what she meant.  If I interpreted what she said correctly, I kind of agree with her on that.  "7 Day Theory" is an excellent album, but it did have more or a raw sound, imo.

My only problem with her argument concerning mastering is that the polish sound is necessary better.  It's supposed to sound raw for a reason unless it was poorly executed during mastering.  Not everything is meant to be polished.

That's a good point... I can point out non-2 Pac releases.

People always say acts like Wu-Tang need to remaster their classic albums like "36 Chambers", well to be honest, no that wouldn't sound right. An album like that is supposed to be raw. Even the Biggie re-release of "Ready To Die". I thought there was something lost when they remastered it. Some of that 90s Hip Hop sounds "better" in the old format, more in the cassette form. Again, that's personal opinion though. I have to admit though, I really did like some of those remasters such as "Dogg Food".

Remastering is really to be considered on an album-to-album basis instead of a must do for EVERY project.


i LOVE hearing a 2009-master of a song from 1993.....it sounds so much better
Quote from: Now_I_Know on September 10, 2001, 04:19:36 PM
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When she starts dropping these releases, assuming she does them right, go out and fucking buy them! This forum has been 50% posts about unreleased Death Row since the forum's inception. We've all bitched about this for years, and now our patience has paid off. So just go out and buy the shit, there's no excuse not to especially since they're doing everything the LEGAL way and compensating the original artists.
 

Don Seer

This may not be as easy as it sounds as some artists like Dr Dre had their own publishing, which means they also retain creative control. this stopped death row putting parts of its catalogue dre was involved with before... there was a lawsuit about some kind of burn on demand system a few years ago. dre won by saying that putting it out in another form was breaking his creative vision or something along those lines..

however. snoop was under suge publishing which is why they were able to do things like dead man walking

remember even after he left for no limit, he dropped 2 albums which suge got loot from.. last meal was the last album that put money into suges pockets.

the lbc crew might well not have been (as snoop did it all on doggystyle/death row).. suge wasnt keen on putting artists who werent on his publishing out.


in short. just because you own the master tape, doesnt mean you own the right to publish it.
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hope they will release some nate dogg too
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When she starts dropping these releases, assuming she does them right, go out and fucking buy them! This forum has been 50% posts about unreleased Death Row since the forum's inception. We've all bitched about this for years, and now our patience has paid off. So just go out and buy the shit, there's no excuse not to especially since they're doing everything the LEGAL way and compensating the original artists.

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Quote from: Now_I_Know on September 10, 2001, 04:19:36 PM
This guy aint no crip, and I'm 100% sure on that because he doesn't type like a crip, I know crips, and that fool is not a crip.


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This may not be as easy as it sounds as some artists like Dr Dre had their own publishing, which means they also retain creative control. this stopped death row putting parts of its catalogue dre was involved with before... there was a lawsuit about some kind of burn on demand system a few years ago. dre won by saying that putting it out in another form was breaking his creative vision or something along those lines..

however. snoop was under suge publishing which is why they were able to do things like dead man walking

remember even after he left for no limit, he dropped 2 albums which suge got loot from.. last meal was the last album that put money into suges pockets.

the lbc crew might well not have been (as snoop did it all on doggystyle/death row).. suge wasnt keen on putting artists who werent on his publishing out.


in short. just because you own the master tape, doesnt mean you own the right to publish it.
yeah she also mentioned that in the video.

i don't see why Dre wouldn't cooperate though; he wants to get paid right?

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It's a shame Johnny J passed away -- she could have hollered at him to make some new beats or touch up some of the beats that were on the classic unreleased death row material since he would have known best what to put on them.  I miss that classic "Run Tha Streetz" laid back west coast production he brought to the table which imo is better than 90% of the production post 2000.  Johnny J brought the west coast hypnotic laid back pacific ocean beats to life on his shit but he did it in a way with hard base and laid back melodies that you could play in your ride or at the club.  RIP Johnny J
 

Don Seer

Does Dre need to get paid? i think he's ok for cash...

I certainly think that if they can get past Dre's protective shield of Yes-men that Dre would be happier now that its not really the original Death Row or Suge putting it out or profitting from it.

btw The Chronic and Doggystyle, and more already got 'remastered' only a couple of years ago, with bonus video content. I bought those. I've got 3 copies of The Chronic in various forms, plus all the 12"s, and 4 versions of Doggystyle, with all the 12"s and CD's's again.

The only thing 'extra' these releases are promising to offer are some extra pictures and a DVD.

Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...

 

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Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.
 

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it seems like they re-release all the albums and will add in extra traks/videos, that isnt so bad, least we will be getting new music out of it.

cant wait to hear the dr.dre/snoop/tha dogg pound material, lets just hope they cooperate with wideawake so that they can put it out.
 

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Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE
Quote from: Now_I_Know on September 10, 2001, 04:19:36 PM
This guy aint no crip, and I'm 100% sure on that because he doesn't type like a crip, I know crips, and that fool is not a crip.


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Does Dre need to get paid? i think he's ok for cash...

I certainly think that if they can get past Dre's protective shield of Yes-men that Dre would be happier now that its not really the original Death Row or Suge putting it out or profitting from it.

btw The Chronic and Doggystyle, and more already got 'remastered' only a couple of years ago, with bonus video content. I bought those. I've got 3 copies of The Chronic in various forms, plus all the 12"s, and 4 versions of Doggystyle, with all the 12"s and CD's's again.

The only thing 'extra' these releases are promising to offer are some extra pictures and a DVD.

Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...



i know, Dre is very rich, but i meant was, i think Dre doesn't mind that an other company is putting out a product with his name on it, as long as he gets a piece of the pie.

anyway, yeah you're right, those releases were remastered before.
but she's also talking about adding previously unreleased songs.

whether she's able to pull that off is another story though

Don Seer

Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.
 

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Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

Unless Hack Wilson's talking about titties being blurred out and the like?
 

Don Seer

i've also got rips with those logos.. and even the gun visible.. :)  but you can kinda understand why that happened..

what do you guys reckon about the possibiiliy of dvd's.. would be sick if The Chronic came with all the videos from that on a DVD.. same for Doggystyle..


btw.. What about the Deep Cover soundtrack?... kind of the row's 'real' first release..
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I think some DualDisc versions of Chronic & Doggystyle were released back in 05, which had the CD on one side and a DVD on the other with all the videos. Never seen them on sale outside of the internet tho.
 

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Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

My only problem with the videos they included on that collection was that the picture quality for most of them was crap.  I thought the video selection was pretty good, but the quality on most of them was god awful.  If memory serves me, there were maybe only a couple that were passable.  I don't know what source they used for the video, but it's evident they did nothing to them to clean them up.  From the way they talk, I don't think Wideawake will make the same mistake.
 

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Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

eh i know Dante sold a DVD of 2pac video's for like 299 or some shit with the dirty cuts of death row vids like natural born killers
Quote from: Now_I_Know on September 10, 2001, 04:19:36 PM
This guy aint no crip, and I'm 100% sure on that because he doesn't type like a crip, I know crips, and that fool is not a crip.


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JohnnyL

Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

eh i know Dante sold a DVD of 2pac video's for like 299 or some shit with the dirty cuts of death row vids like natural born killers

Yeah.  He had a Tupac video collection for sale that actually looked pretty nice.  I was thinkin' it was actually only about 80 bucks.  Because I remember thinking that was one project I was giving some thought to supporting.  I actually thought that seemed like a fairly reasonable price at the time, because it had pretty much every video, and most of them were supposed to be in dvd quality.
 

Don Seer

I think some DualDisc versions of Chronic & Doggystyle were released back in 05, which had the CD on one side and a DVD on the other with all the videos. Never seen them on sale outside of the internet tho.

thats what i've got.. its an enchanced CD
 

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Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

eh i know Dante sold a DVD of 2pac video's for like 299 or some shit with the dirty cuts of death row vids like natural born killers

Yeah.  He had a Tupac video collection for sale that actually looked pretty nice.  I was thinkin' it was actually only about 80 bucks.  Because I remember thinking that was one project I was giving some thought to supporting.  I actually thought that seemed like a fairly reasonable price at the time, because it had pretty much every video, and most of them were supposed to be in dvd quality.

lol
Quote from: Now_I_Know on September 10, 2001, 04:19:36 PM
This guy aint no crip, and I'm 100% sure on that because he doesn't type like a crip, I know crips, and that fool is not a crip.


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btw.. What about the Deep Cover soundtrack?... kind of the row's 'real' first release..
I don't think Death Row ever had the rights to it. It's never been on any of their releases and even though, Death Row prohibited use of their music for the documentary, "Welcome To Death Row" in 2001, the song and sections of the video appeared. I think Death Row did that song under another deal (possibly with Solar) and didn't maintain the same control of it as the rest of their library. Could be wrong though but it is weird that it never appeared on any of their compilations like the Greatest Hits of Dre (both import and domestic) or the two recent compilations but they did include the 187Um remix. 
 

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Death Row tried to and were not able to get Deep Cover on the Chronic album due to it not being a Death row song
Quote from: Now_I_Know on September 10, 2001, 04:19:36 PM
This guy aint no crip, and I'm 100% sure on that because he doesn't type like a crip, I know crips, and that fool is not a crip.


"I went from being homeless strung out on Dust to an 8 bedroom estate signed 2 1 of my fav rappers... Pump it up jokes can't hurt me."-- Mr. Joey Buddens