Guru Gang Starr says Southern Hip hip is not "Hip Hop" Pseudo Hip Hop

[Lunatic]

i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys

LMAO!



There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..

no hate, but u can't deny the majority of the hate comes from the east..

[D-Nice]

Wow I expected a little bit more maturity from Guru on that. That is the problem with blanket statements like that. Now if Illseed would have put him on the spot and said well what about Scarface then he would have got a completely different response. But Face is a Southern artist. That is like saying if Mims sold 3 million albums off of This Is Why I'm Hot, Rick Ross saying he hate East Coast rap.

[OG Hack Wilson]

he's 100% correct

[D-Nice]

he's 100% correct

Explain how.

[OG Hack Wilson]

i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys

Gang Starr no. Guru, yes. Guru cannot hold down an album without Premier. Gang Starr still gets regular play by me now.

Guru can hold his own if Easy Mo Bee produced the beat haha

[OG Hack Wilson]

he's 100% correct

Explain how.

hip hop and southern rap are different species


hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage  (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher


southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it.  no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow.  ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.

[D-Nice]

he's 100% correct

Explain how.

hip hop and southern rap are different species


hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage  (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher


southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it.  no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow.  ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.

But again then Guru needs to be specific. Making a blanket statement like that throws groups like the Geto Boys, Outkast, etc under the bus. You can find wack shit on the east coast also. But if you talking about something specific then say it meaning Guru in this case.

[OG Hack Wilson]

eh if y our going to take his words 100% literal - then yes he shouldn't say "southern hip hop"


but i think we all know what he meant - all this crunk garbage lil jon started that just keeps getting worse and worse


modern mainstream rap is no longer about lyricism - we're a long way from 1994 when 2pac/Nas/Biggie were at the forefront lol

[BiggBoogaBiff]

he's 100% correct

Explain how.

hip hop and southern rap are different species


hip hop is soulful, based on a culture...you have to have skillful rhymes or you get chased off stage  (happens to the best of them) and when Guru was coming up you couldn't spit shit like "Dufflebag Boy" or you'd get kicked out the cypher


southern rap for the most part is mindless dribble lyrically with lots of bass/base to drown out the vocals when bumping it.  no social message, no heart and no dope flows because the beat's are always too slow.  ofcourse we have our exceptions like Geto Boys and Outkast, but for the most part it's true.

that's true but southern hip hop is still tha shit, it's just as good as the other versions/genres of hip hop








   all day

[D-Nice]

eh if y our going to take his words 100% literal - then yes he shouldn't say "southern hip hop"


but i think we all know what he meant - all this crunk garbage lil jon started that just keeps getting worse and worse


modern mainstream rap is no longer about lyricism - we're a long way from 1994 when 2pac/Nas/Biggie were at the forefront lol

I was not taking it in a literall sense. He should be smart enough to know that it could be taken that way though. Obviously if he would have named a few rappers he thought from the south were not hip hop then he would come off as a hater to most. Honest maybe but a hater. So it was easier to just say southern hip hop.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

   Tha South will NEVER be shitty!  Mark 'me

[westside159]

gangstarr is probally saying that the new downsouth shit isnt hip hop , like mike jones , flo rida , soulja boy ,  etc  the hot garbage shit ...      

[stillinrehab]

guru isn't even relevant anymore, that's why he's talking shit to stir up publicity. quit worrying about the next man and get yours. guru hasn't been shit since the last gangstarr album

+1

[2euce 7even]

Guru Gang Starr should go listen to Scarface, Geto Boyz, Outkast, 8Ball & MJG, UGK, Mr. 3-2, Z-Ro, K-Rino, Killer Mike and countless others before he makes statements.

you know that the artists you listed weren´t ment to be dissed..im sure they mean ppl like: jeezy, lil jon, solja boy,d4l,etc.

Lil Jon shouldnt be there either, considering he gave us this gem


And countless others

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH, OOOOOKAAAYYY!!!!!!! 

[QuietTruth]

i told y'all Gangstarr was outdated.  they died out right before the end of Throwback Jerseys

LMAO!



There ain't no respect nowhere, no ways, no more.....so..

no hate, but u can't deny the majority of the hate comes from the east..

And they ain't doin' nuthin' either but the same mainstream bullshit.

But I can't front, they mainstream shit better than down south, no doubt, but that's just personal preference.

Thoughhhh nobody should call nobody wack, becuz they all wack.