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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2009, 07:37:12 PM »
Because hip hop is the probably the lowest artistically redeeming form of music. It has the easiest, simplest form of instrumentation. The vocal acts for the most part take you absolutely nowhere or say nothing of relevance, and it is increasingly played for the masses only only if it will be a guaranteed success in a night club, where large masses of idiots go to get drunk and preen around, and where they'll need something simple and egotistical as the musical backdrop.

I would say the most lyrical artists are rappers. I could easily give you a list of rappers who lyrically shit on the legends of rock.

no you cant. you were the same stupid nig nog who was trying to say ?uestlove was one of the most talented drummers ever right? I don't care to hear your opinion. It is worthless to people who appreciate music.
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2009, 07:55:03 PM »
Because hip hop is the probably the lowest artistically redeeming form of music. It has the easiest, simplest form of instrumentation. The vocal acts for the most part take you absolutely nowhere or say nothing of relevance, and it is increasingly played for the masses only only if it will be a guaranteed success in a night club, where large masses of idiots go to get drunk and preen around, and where they'll need something simple and egotistical as the musical backdrop.

I would say the most lyrical artists are rappers. I could easily give you a list of rappers who lyrically shit on the legends of rock.

no you cant. you were the same stupid nig nog who was trying to say ?uestlove was one of the most talented drummers ever right? I don't care to hear your opinion. It is worthless to people who appreciate music.



Lyrically shits on the song the sample is based on.

lol @ you catching feelings. Questlove IS one of the most talented drummers.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2009, 08:11:51 PM by rapsodie »
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2009, 12:08:12 AM »
The lyricism of hip-hop is so wide-ranging that it depends what you compare it on. Hip-hop lyrics can touch on a lot more complex rhyme schemes and you can get a lot of things across. However, other genres have employed more abstract and metaphorical rhymes that hip-hop artists almost never use.

As for the original topic, it might be impressive for a young kid to create something, but that's not a reason for me to listen. There's no A for effort with music, give me something that appeals to me.
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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2009, 05:37:44 AM »
The lyricism of hip-hop is so wide-ranging that it depends what you compare it on. Hip-hop lyrics can touch on a lot more complex rhyme schemes and you can get a lot of things across. However, other genres have employed more abstract and metaphorical rhymes that hip-hop artists almost never use.

As for the original topic, it might be impressive for a young kid to create something, but that's not a reason for me to listen. There's no A for effort with music, give me something that appeals to me.
you're a jerk.
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2009, 05:13:27 PM »
The lyricism of hip-hop is so wide-ranging that it depends what you compare it on. Hip-hop lyrics can touch on a lot more complex rhyme schemes and you can get a lot of things across. However, other genres have employed more abstract and metaphorical rhymes that hip-hop artists almost never use.

As for the original topic, it might be impressive for a young kid to create something, but that's not a reason for me to listen. There's no A for effort with music, give me something that appeals to me.
you're a jerk.
You're correct.
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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2009, 07:56:10 PM »
The lyricism of hip-hop is so wide-ranging that it depends what you compare it on. Hip-hop lyrics can touch on a lot more complex rhyme schemes and you can get a lot of things across. However, other genres have employed more abstract and metaphorical rhymes that hip-hop artists almost never use.

As for the original topic, it might be impressive for a young kid to create something, but that's not a reason for me to listen. There's no A for effort with music, give me something that appeals to me.
you're a jerk.
You're correct.
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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2009, 08:27:54 PM »
Because hip hop is the probably the lowest artistically redeeming form of music. It has the easiest, simplest form of instrumentation. The vocal acts for the most part take you absolutely nowhere or say nothing of relevance, and it is increasingly played for the masses only only if it will be a guaranteed success in a night club, where large masses of idiots go to get drunk and preen around, and where they'll need something simple and egotistical as the musical backdrop.

I would say the most lyrical artists are rappers. I could easily give you a list of rappers who lyrically shit on the legends of rock.

no you cant. you were the same stupid nig nog who was trying to say ?uestlove was one of the most talented drummers ever right? I don't care to hear your opinion. It is worthless to people who appreciate music.



Lyrically shits on the song the sample is based on.

lol @ you catching feelings. Questlove IS one of the most talented drummers.


Nice try. Guess again.

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-by
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


Those lyrics are timeless and beautiful. Townsend very cleverly describes revolution. Illogic is just pretending to be smart by use big words and stupid analogies.
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2009, 10:09:33 PM »
Ohhh that album sounds dated ?  You don't hear this ridiculous argument in any other genre of music.  But this train of thought is so prevalent amongst rap fans.  Rap sucks because hip hop fans are the worst fans.

True, other stupid arguements include who is 'relevant' or 'irrelevant', etc
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2009, 10:45:57 PM »
Because hip hop is the probably the lowest artistically redeeming form of music. It has the easiest, simplest form of instrumentation. The vocal acts for the most part take you absolutely nowhere or say nothing of relevance, and it is increasingly played for the masses only only if it will be a guaranteed success in a night club, where large masses of idiots go to get drunk and preen around, and where they'll need something simple and egotistical as the musical backdrop.

I would say the most lyrical artists are rappers. I could easily give you a list of rappers who lyrically shit on the legends of rock.

no you cant. you were the same stupid nig nog who was trying to say ?uestlove was one of the most talented drummers ever right? I don't care to hear your opinion. It is worthless to people who appreciate music.



Lyrically shits on the song the sample is based on.

lol @ you catching feelings. Questlove IS one of the most talented drummers.


Nice try. Guess again.

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-by
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


Those lyrics are timeless and beautiful. Townsend very cleverly describes revolution. Illogic is just pretending to be smart by use big words and stupid analogies.

That's your opinion that those lyrics are timeless and beautiful, that Townsend cleverly describes revolution.  Perhaps, Townsend is just bitter.

Bukowski once wrote,
Quote
As the spirit wanes form appears

rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives.  only a fool would dismiss hip-hop as having no substance.  one who does never enjoyed hip-hop in the first place
Cool breeze; I'm hopping out of new Beams
My outfit ran me a few G's but none of that will matter if you leave
I used to be an Adam with two Eves and shawtys automatically do me
Excuse me, all that happened before you doesn't matter
I'm a vision of the future climbing the success ladder
Recline, in the mean time, twenty three shine, diamond bling blind as I rewind
- Banks
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 12:16:15 AM »


rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives. 

Eloquently put, I tend to agree with that; although granted some perspectives may have little substance and some are more appealing than others and are subjectively appealing.

 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2009, 05:02:01 AM »
Because hip hop is the probably the lowest artistically redeeming form of music. It has the easiest, simplest form of instrumentation. The vocal acts for the most part take you absolutely nowhere or say nothing of relevance, and it is increasingly played for the masses only only if it will be a guaranteed success in a night club, where large masses of idiots go to get drunk and preen around, and where they'll need something simple and egotistical as the musical backdrop.

I would say the most lyrical artists are rappers. I could easily give you a list of rappers who lyrically shit on the legends of rock.

no you cant. you were the same stupid nig nog who was trying to say ?uestlove was one of the most talented drummers ever right? I don't care to hear your opinion. It is worthless to people who appreciate music.



Lyrically shits on the song the sample is based on.

lol @ you catching feelings. Questlove IS one of the most talented drummers.


Nice try. Guess again.

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-by
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


Those lyrics are timeless and beautiful. Townsend very cleverly describes revolution. Illogic is just pretending to be smart by use big words and stupid analogies.

That's your opinion that those lyrics are timeless and beautiful, that Townsend cleverly describes revolution.  Perhaps, Townsend is just bitter.

Bukowski once wrote,
Quote
As the spirit wanes form appears

rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives.  only a fool would dismiss hip-hop as having no substance.  one who does never enjoyed hip-hop in the first place
i concur, one of my fav songs and 'political' songs
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2009, 06:38:27 AM »
Ohhh that album sounds dated ?  You don't hear this ridiculous argument in any other genre of music.  But this train of thought is so prevalent amongst rap fans.  Rap sucks because hip hop fans are the worst fans.

+1

You are 100% right!
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2009, 06:40:17 AM »
Tell me, why do you feel you need to bring your retarded conversations from the "Hip-hip4retards" forums over here???As you can plainly fucking see, we got mother fuckers wondering if Lil Wayne and fucking eminem are free 2 fuck.Last thing we need, is some mother fucker talking about some retarded cliche, that has universally applied to all music.If your Funky Crusty ass, keeps hear that "dated" shit, stop going to the retards who only listen to new stuff to be cool, and have no true stake in any of the artist they listen to.

You must have skipped school.... idiot
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2009, 06:42:49 AM »
Yeah, 80's rock will never sound dated ;)
i hate 80s music.
me too.
i hate 80-s music expect for a couple dope artists, but 80s rap is where its at

80's rock >>> rap music
 

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Re: Why is rap the only genre of music where you hear...
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2009, 07:33:26 AM »
Because hip hop is the probably the lowest artistically redeeming form of music. It has the easiest, simplest form of instrumentation. The vocal acts for the most part take you absolutely nowhere or say nothing of relevance, and it is increasingly played for the masses only only if it will be a guaranteed success in a night club, where large masses of idiots go to get drunk and preen around, and where they'll need something simple and egotistical as the musical backdrop.

I would say the most lyrical artists are rappers. I could easily give you a list of rappers who lyrically shit on the legends of rock.

no you cant. you were the same stupid nig nog who was trying to say ?uestlove was one of the most talented drummers ever right? I don't care to hear your opinion. It is worthless to people who appreciate music.



Lyrically shits on the song the sample is based on.

lol @ you catching feelings. Questlove IS one of the most talented drummers.


Nice try. Guess again.

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-by
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and greet the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


Those lyrics are timeless and beautiful. Townsend very cleverly describes revolution. Illogic is just pretending to be smart by use big words and stupid analogies.

That's your opinion that those lyrics are timeless and beautiful, that Townsend cleverly describes revolution.  Perhaps, Townsend is just bitter.

Bukowski once wrote,
Quote
As the spirit wanes form appears

rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives.  only a fool would dismiss hip-hop as having no substance.  one who does never enjoyed hip-hop in the first place


But that's your opinion that rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives. Perhaps rap is just mostly one guy's perspective of how much better he is than said rapper or rappers.