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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2009, 06:00:37 PM »
Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.

Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky

nah man those labels are 2 different situations

Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop wouldn't have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie


either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa

I agree with most of what you're saying here, except that it implies that Jerry Heller didn't do much for NWA.  I think that line of thinking is a little naive.


Hell yeah,Heller is the shit... first to sign springsteen... managed Marvin Gaye and so on. Dude is a legend.


Hard +1 to both of you, dudes got a fuckload of history in the music biz and did alot for NWA. All I gotta say is Van Morrison...
 

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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2009, 06:01:33 PM »
Death Row came from..

1.) Suge getting Dre off Ruthless

2.) Suge 'acquiring' some cash

3.) Dre creating a masterpiece - The Chronic with Snoop and RBX writing rhymes and Daz and Warren G assistance with beats

4.) Warren G giving Dre the 213 Demo

5.) Dre signing Snoop

6.) Dre and Suge signing Daz, Kurupt, Nate Dogg

7.) Snoop's Doggystyle album

8.) Warren G and Nate Dogg releasing Regulate on Above The Rim

9.) Dre, Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Nate, Warren G meeting Pac while Pac was doing Above The Rim

10.) Dogg Food - Daz showing off his production skills at its best

11.) Pac getting setup on the rape case and shot in NY and then going to jail.. Suge bailing out Pac since Suge had already been wanting Pac on Death Row

12.) Dre and Pac - California Love

13.) All Eyez On Me with Dre, Daz, Snoop, Nate Dogg, Kurupt all participating in the classic album

14.) Renting out Can Am Studios 24-7

15.) Makaveli

So Death Row is all these people plus all the others I did not mention and everything that happened after '96. And yeah Suge played a huge part so did Dre.


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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2009, 06:05:08 PM »
Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.

Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky

nah man those labels are 2 different situations

Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop wouldn't have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie


either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa

I agree with most of what you're saying here, except that it implies that Jerry Heller didn't do much for NWA.  I think that line of thinking is a little naive.


Hell yeah,Heller is the shit... first to sign springsteen... managed Marvin Gaye and so on. Dude is a legend.


Hard +1 to both of you, dudes got a fuckload of history in the music biz and did alot for NWA. All I gotta say is Van Morrison...


fuck we go to get past this racial segregation shit  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Jew this and that,get the fuck out off here  >:( >:( >:( >:(
 

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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2009, 06:07:15 PM »
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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2009, 06:19:34 PM »
haha damn real talk chad you got some comediac sides to you for real



LOL @ JEW THIS AND THAT


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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2009, 06:53:34 PM »
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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2009, 08:49:25 PM »
Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.

Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky

nah man those labels are 2 different situations

Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie


either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa

Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).


hahaha ok fortune teller

Its not fortune telling retard, both Suge Knight and Tupac were on Parole (Suge knight, years before for a assault).Even if Anderson didn't press charges the police and the casino will. As such Tupac would be sent back and have to do the rest of his time, and Night (who did go to jail and eventually was brought up on racketeering charges).Its simple as that, that night they were caught on tape breaking the law.Its also possible why Tupac had had sorta Sad face in that picture taken before he as shot.
 

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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2009, 08:50:52 PM »
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who do you think killed pac?
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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2009, 12:39:35 AM »
haha damn real talk chad you got some comediac sides to you for real



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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2009, 01:35:17 AM »
Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.

Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky

nah man those labels are 2 different situations

Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie


either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa

Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).


hahaha ok fortune teller

Its not fortune telling retard, both Suge Knight and Tupac were on Parole (Suge knight, years before for a assault).Even if Anderson didn't press charges the police and the casino will. As such Tupac would be sent back and have to do the rest of his time, and Night (who did go to jail and eventually was brought up on racketeering charges).Its simple as that, that night they were caught on tape breaking the law.Its also possible why Tupac had had sorta Sad face in that picture taken before he as shot.

Depends on whether the tape would suddenly disappear... the only reason why it couldn't was cause of Pac's death. If they were still alive Suge could of payed hush money to get rid of it.. it is Vegas after all and Suge was runnin Vegas at that time with bribes.

Now if Pac stayed alive and the tape did come out it would be likely it would be a violation of the terms of his bail and Pac would go back to jail pending the outcome of the appeal. If he lost the appeal he would serve less than a year in the jail for the "touching of the buttox." Either way Pac would done okay and would been free by late '97. Suge on the other hand would of gotten the same outcome for his parole violation that we all saw.

Then.. you got the possible scenario what would of Pac done in late '97 on Death Row with Suge in jail..

I would roll with the tape disappearing if Pac wasn't shot that night.. looks like we dont have any footage from that part of lobby.. lol
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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2009, 08:44:13 AM »
yes please tell



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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2009, 08:56:00 AM »
Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.

Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky

nah man those labels are 2 different situations

Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie


either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa

Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).


hahaha ok fortune teller

Its not fortune telling retard, both Suge Knight and Tupac were on Parole (Suge knight, years before for a assault).Even if Anderson didn't press charges the police and the casino will. As such Tupac would be sent back and have to do the rest of his time, and Night (who did go to jail and eventually was brought up on racketeering charges).Its simple as that, that night they were caught on tape breaking the law.Its also possible why Tupac had had sorta Sad face in that picture taken before he as shot.

Depends on whether the tape would suddenly disappear... the only reason why it couldn't was cause of Pac's death. If they were still alive Suge could of payed hush money to get rid of it.. it is Vegas after all and Suge was runnin Vegas at that time with bribes.

Now if Pac stayed alive and the tape did come out it would be likely it would be a violation of the terms of his bail and Pac would go back to jail pending the outcome of the appeal. If he lost the appeal he would serve less than a year in the jail for the "touching of the buttox." Either way Pac would done okay and would been free by late '97. Suge on the other hand would of gotten the same outcome for his parole violation that we all saw.

Then.. you got the possible scenario what would of Pac done in late '97 on Death Row with Suge in jail..

I would roll with the tape disappearing if Pac wasn't shot that night.. looks like we dont have any footage from that part of lobby.. lol

The tape had already reached the media. It was only awhile later people found out he was also shot, but again there was only about 3 ways the night could of gone on. Either the above I mentioned the 1 you mentioned and then how it turned out. Cause this is assuming Tupac was still shot, but even then Suge Knight had no controls when it came to the casino, just with the club 622 and other endeavors.

Anyways, who do I think killed Tupac? Well first off I know for a fucking fact The Las Vegas police didn't give a shit, look at tupac's past songs like Violent and fuck the police in his earlier work already made him strained with the law. Lets also not forget that around the time West Coast Rap had debut and was coming into its own Politicians, Civil Rights leader, anyone not into the scene at the time was against rap. To them tupac was just another rapper a "perpetrator" of violence in their eyes. Look at some of the articles after Tupac's death.

"Rapper who personified Violence dies at 25" I mean with head lines like that, no wonder no one gave a shit. Anyways Because their was no incentive on the LV police end (no Helicopter, No APB) The killers got off free remember his original shooting, calling that a Robbery, He was IN a STUDIO. ok A studio is the safest fucking place ever..

Now people say Suge Knight Killed him, but Suge Knight had no Incentive. Tupac was promoting the hell outta the label, was providing record sells and was helping Death Row East, and was going to have Death Row Distribute Makaveli Records releases (First album was to be the 7 day Theory, second in contract, and then One Nation which would of been his third obligation).I mean he had no need.

 People say Tupac was complaining about money, No he wasn't Suge kept his ass happy with cars and such, He never got his TRUE earnings, but honestly I think Tupac wasn't worrying about that as much. Look at all the videos of him in the studios at Death Row. Hes happy, fuck Their is possibly a chance he is grateful for suge knight posting his bail, but again Because we weren't in his head will never know how he truly felt regardless of the count-less documentaries.

Second Theory is Biggie Smalls. This theory Is ludicrous The sells from the Controversy the feud with Tupac was generating amazing sells (mostly do to the hype the media dubbing it "East vs West Coast war"). He had no reason to kill him, and besides I highly doubt his ass would even go the gangster route. He's a rapper not a gangster. Secondly he had no idea that Tupac was to be in Vegas at the time the shooting happened.

Third Theory (this 1 I believe) is Orlando Anderson. This one is credible, Compton Police (with some being on Death Row's payroll as security guards, which was apart of Rampart scandal) have Evidence that Orlando was bragging about the shooting, had the a Glock (the murder weapon) even though Orlando said he never had one. Because Orlando was a Crip (If I remember right) this is what helped spark a small amount of Gang Violence in Compton when Tupac's death was heard.

But you know the code of the streets, you don't say shit. anyways Biggies Dead, Orlandos Dead, and Suge knight lost everything, who ever you think killed him, you can at least say "well he got what was coming to him" or what ever. In the End I think a lot of people are so amazed at his death because of how he died. He had all this shit going on, He was the highest selling rapper in the US at the time (All Eyez Reached the 7 million mark before his death) he was making movie after movie, and had so much stuff going on in his final years and to be taken out like a common civilian is whats amazing.

Him dieing in that Drive-By is what amazed people the most. Dieing, just like everyone else out here is doing. 1 thing I do know, this killing was premeditated, Orlando wasn't there to gamble or see no fight he had no ticket.It being 1 quick retaliation is what it looks like. Its not assassination just premeditated murder for what ever reason the killer wanted.
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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2009, 01:16:58 PM »

Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
he just got lucky by being the man behind the whole label???...alot of luck he had there...
 

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Re: WideAwake reveals Death Row Records Plans
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2009, 01:49:18 PM »
I hope finally next episode og will released..after so many years.