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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2009, 02:53:04 AM »
damn this thread is getting bigger and bigger every day...deal is we all dont have the same ear for music, lotta people in here , im one of those, consider crooked a completer rapper cause of his flow, lyrics, storytelling, ability to show emotions in his songs, connect with the listener, other people dont feel his shit as much, like bunch of people dont feel Games stuff, Jay Z stuff, etc...





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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #126 on: June 30, 2009, 12:10:51 PM »
CROOK COULD WEAR A CROWN ID AGREE
 

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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2009, 04:57:25 PM »
some of yall suck his dick way too hard

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but Crooked I is still dope though...
 

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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2009, 05:55:49 PM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?
 

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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2009, 06:20:32 PM »
I chimed in on this thread earlier, but didn't really have time to state my entire opinion on the topic. Admittedly, I have not had a chance to read the other comments, but I will respond to the original question of whether or not Crooked I should be considered on of the best.

While I don't think the question is invalid, I am not sure any answers that were presented hold any weight. I say that because I believe that music is based on opinion and preference. Even widely recognized artists such as 2 Pac and Biggie Smalls are not universally accepted as "the best'. Not everyone is going to co-sign an individual one hundred percent. Personally, I think Crooked I is one of the best of our time, but that's MY opinion. I say this because after 10 years of listening to his music he has not changed up and has kept his music honest. Furthermore, while Hip Hop fans may not be able to connect with Crooked I the individual, he has made music that ANYONE can relate to. He's mad club bangers, street anthems, political and social songs as well as thought out introspective cuts. The versatility that he has presented throughout his career is amazing and the ability to gain such a fan base without a solo debut record is simply incredible. I always knew that Crooked I's fan base was world wide, but it wasn't until I opened The B.O.S.S. Board that I was truly able to understand his music's reach. Crooked I's following is WORLD WIDE and people love his music, it's almost unreal. I think a lot of people have been able to relate to his drive and goals. After so many road blocks Crooked I still has not given up and I think a lot of people find that to be inspirational. Personally, that's one of the aspects to his career that I respect the most.

Getting back to the question though, I don't think there is a definite answer. My Top 5 is different than the next man's. It's all personal preference and I know some people would laugh at my favorites. However, it's my opinion that Crooked I deserves to be mentioned in a Top 10 list whether or not anyone else agrees. It's not an irrelevant question, in fact it makes for a great discussion. At the end of the day though, a list will never affect my ranking of artists.
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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #130 on: July 01, 2009, 04:31:05 AM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?

Crooked I the greatest rapper alive atm but Pac the greatest rapper ever to do it.

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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #131 on: July 01, 2009, 09:58:49 AM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?

Crooked I the greatest rapper alive atm but Pac the greatest rapper ever to do it.

first, i'm not even calling him the best rapper alive, i truly believe that Budden & Royce are better rappers; but Crooked is a very close third.

secondly, FUCK NO! Pac is the GOAT in my opinon & any other legend like that is probably (can't say for sure) better than Crooked I.

but if you made a list of the top 50 rappers of all time & left Crooked out, i would be a little shocked.
 

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« Reply #132 on: July 01, 2009, 10:29:48 AM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?

Crooked I the greatest rapper alive atm but Pac the greatest rapper ever to do it.

first, i'm not even calling him the best rapper alive, i truly believe that Budden & Royce are better rappers; but Crooked is a very close third.

secondly, FUCK NO! Pac is the GOAT in my opinon & any other legend like that is probably (can't say for sure) better than Crooked I.

but if you made a list of the top 50 rappers of all time & left Crooked out, i would be a little shocked.

See that's kind of hypocritical because you are saying based on his rhyming ability Crooked is one of the greatest, but clearly Pac wasn't the greatest rhymer. Pac is considered the GOAT because of his influence and his ability to touch people, his ability to make classic albums and songs. But if you compared their rhyming ability clearly Crooked is better at stringing multis together than Pac. Look at a song like Hail Mary where Pac spits like poetry. I haven't heard a Crooked I verse that's poetic. That's why I can bring up a rapper like Common and say he is a greater rapper than Crooked, because he is a great lyricist, because he is more creative and has has a wider subject matter, because of his ability to make classic songs like I Used to Love H.E.R. IMO Crooked can't be considered one of the greatest rappers because he is not a complete emcee.
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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #133 on: July 01, 2009, 10:58:43 AM »
see, no way lol.

Crooked I >>> Common & it's not even close.

like i said, he is a top 50 rapper; make a list (a real list), with no "gimmies" like Common & tell me Crooked I doesn't make it lol.
 

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« Reply #134 on: July 01, 2009, 11:07:18 AM »
see, no way lol.

Crooked I >>> Common & it's not even close.

like i said, he is a top 50 rapper; make a list (a real list), with no "gimmies" like Common & tell me Crooked I doesn't make it lol.

What do you mean by "gimmie"? How the hell is Crooked better than Common? The man's got 6 classic/near classic albums and has been in the game since 92. His lyricism is universally praised. Crooked I doesn't even compare.

I'd make a list but you'd just go line by line and put "no" so there's no point. Most people in the world know Crooked isn't one of the greatest.

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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #135 on: July 01, 2009, 11:09:02 AM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?

Crooked I the greatest rapper alive atm but Pac the greatest rapper ever to do it.

first, i'm not even calling him the best rapper alive, i truly believe that Budden & Royce are better rappers; but Crooked is a very close third.

secondly, FUCK NO! Pac is the GOAT in my opinon & any other legend like that is probably (can't say for sure) better than Crooked I.

but if you made a list of the top 50 rappers of all time & left Crooked out, i would be a little shocked.

IMO Crooked can't be considered one of the greatest rappers because he is not a complete emcee.

for real man sayin that crooked is not a complete emcee is just ridiculous, flow, lyrics, storytelling, emotions in all those segments, i agree he didnt have songs about sun making love to a moon and how aliens are coming to fornicate with humans etc but hes COMPLETE as they come.


his verse from Displacement track leaked few days ago, and this is the stuff dude drops from dome in like 5 minutes:

This morning I woke up in some different shoes
a different dude who was raised with different views
a caucasion I think my dad is missing screws
he told me that whites win and niggers lose
he red a book by Hitler and it lit his fuse
Meine Kampf, it said get rid of jews
niggers are gorillas that belong in a ZOO
Im lookin in the mirror, damn Crooked this is you
my mom is Natalie she calls me Bradley
and sadly we are a part of racist family
Im doing acid at a party with some skinheads
if I tell them how I really feel I would have been dead
cause I dont see it as africans and europeans
I think we are all equal man we human beings
a good son never bickers with his folks
so last night I shot a black nigger in his throat....


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Re: Crooked i deserve to be considered one of the best
« Reply #136 on: July 01, 2009, 02:54:27 PM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?

Crooked I the greatest rapper alive atm but Pac the greatest rapper ever to do it.

first, i'm not even calling him the best rapper alive, i truly believe that Budden & Royce are better rappers; but Crooked is a very close third.

secondly, FUCK NO! Pac is the GOAT in my opinon & any other legend like that is probably (can't say for sure) better than Crooked I.

but if you made a list of the top 50 rappers of all time & left Crooked out, i would be a little shocked.

IMO Crooked can't be considered one of the greatest rappers because he is not a complete emcee.

for real man sayin that crooked is not a complete emcee is just ridiculous, flow, lyrics, storytelling, emotions in all those segments, i agree he didnt have songs about sun making love to a moon and how aliens are coming to fornicate with humans etc but hes COMPLETE as they come.


his verse from Displacement track leaked few days ago, and this is the stuff dude drops from dome in like 5 minutes:

This morning I woke up in some different shoes
a different dude who was raised with different views
a caucasion I think my dad is missing screws
he told me that whites win and niggers lose
he red a book by Hitler and it lit his fuse
Meine Kampf, it said get rid of jews
niggers are gorillas that belong in a ZOO
Im lookin in the mirror, damn Crooked this is you
my mom is Natalie she calls me Bradley
and sadly we are a part of racist family
Im doing acid at a party with some skinheads
if I tell them how I really feel I would have been dead
cause I dont see it as africans and europeans
I think we are all equal man we human beings
a good son never bickers with his folks
so last night I shot a black nigger in his throat....

tell 'em homie. 8)

also, Common is a more accomplished artist, but overall as a rapper Crooked I is hands down the better one.
 

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« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2009, 09:37:06 AM »
Okay I have another question...do you consider Crooked I to be better than Pac?

Crooked I the greatest rapper alive atm but Pac the greatest rapper ever to do it.

first, i'm not even calling him the best rapper alive, i truly believe that Budden & Royce are better rappers; but Crooked is a very close third.

secondly, FUCK NO! Pac is the GOAT in my opinon & any other legend like that is probably (can't say for sure) better than Crooked I.

but if you made a list of the top 50 rappers of all time & left Crooked out, i would be a little shocked.

IMO Crooked can't be considered one of the greatest rappers because he is not a complete emcee.

for real man sayin that crooked is not a complete emcee is just ridiculous, flow, lyrics, storytelling, emotions in all those segments, i agree he didnt have songs about sun making love to a moon and how aliens are coming to fornicate with humans etc but hes COMPLETE as they come.


his verse from Displacement track leaked few days ago, and this is the stuff dude drops from dome in like 5 minutes:

This morning I woke up in some different shoes
a different dude who was raised with different views
a caucasion I think my dad is missing screws
he told me that whites win and niggers lose
he red a book by Hitler and it lit his fuse
Meine Kampf, it said get rid of jews
niggers are gorillas that belong in a ZOO
Im lookin in the mirror, damn Crooked this is you
my mom is Natalie she calls me Bradley
and sadly we are a part of racist family
Im doing acid at a party with some skinheads
if I tell them how I really feel I would have been dead
cause I dont see it as africans and europeans
I think we are all equal man we human beings
a good son never bickers with his folks
so last night I shot a black nigger in his throat....

Where did I mention suns and aliens?

That's a good verse I actually really like that song. What's sad is that's one of the only time he's actually stepping away from the gangsta/boss shit, and its on another rapper's song. It shows the potential he has but he is in no way a complete emcee yet. Crooked himself has acknowledged he needs to drop an album to prove himself. Albums are much harder to put out than doing freestyles, and when it comes to crooked he goes about it like everyone else, shit it takes him even longer. How long have we been waiting for B.O.S.S. now? And now he's not even going to release it as an album. I don't know whether he's scared of failure or what's holding him back. Hopefully he will actually drop that ep and it is dope, and that he follows it with a classic debut, because that Block Obama 2 was disappointing.

Until he proves himself and can come out with classic music, fuck no he can't fuck with Common.
 

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« Reply #138 on: July 02, 2009, 02:41:37 PM »
Bottom line is, think about the reasons why you think Pac is the GOAT and better than Crooked. Yet obviously if you compare their rhymes, crooked can out rhyme Pac.

For those same reasons, Crooked can't fuck with the other legends of hip hop, no matter how much of a dope freestyler he is. I've heard a bunch of sick freestylers who could rhyme circles around Pac, but I don't call any of these guys great rappers because they can't come out with classic albums.
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« Reply #139 on: July 02, 2009, 02:58:38 PM »
^i'm not sayin' he is the second best rapper of all time behind Pac lol.

i said make a list of 50 of the greatest rappers & tell me you'd leave him off of it.

you can put him 48th, 49th or 50th; but he still makes the list.

he isn't better than Pac, but their aren't 49 other rappers that are even half way near what Pac was.
 

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« Reply #140 on: July 02, 2009, 03:16:43 PM »
Whats up with everyone saying Snoop is a great MC, seriously? No hate but dude doesnt write his own lyrics so i dont see how you can even mention him in a sentence with any top MCs, not to mention he only has one great album and most of that was due to Dres production and guidance...

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« Reply #141 on: July 02, 2009, 03:17:30 PM »
see, no way lol.

Crooked I >>> Common & it's not even close.

like i said, he is a top 50 rapper; make a list (a real list), with no "gimmies" like Common & tell me Crooked I doesn't make it lol.

someone actually tried to say Common was better than Crook??? lolzers
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« Reply #142 on: July 02, 2009, 03:20:58 PM »
^i'm not sayin' he is the second best rapper of all time behind Pac lol.

i said make a list of 50 of the greatest rappers & tell me you'd leave him off of it.

you can put him 48th, 49th or 50th; but he still makes the list.

he isn't better than Pac, but their aren't 49 other rappers that are even half way near what Pac was.

you've already tried to shoot down every rapper i mention, so what the fuck would listing 50 more of them accomplish? Like I said before, think about the realistic reasons why Pac is better than Crooked I and you'll see what I mean.
 

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« Reply #143 on: July 02, 2009, 03:25:55 PM »
^i'm not sayin' he is the second best rapper of all time behind Pac lol.

i said make a list of 50 of the greatest rappers & tell me you'd leave him off of it.

you can put him 48th, 49th or 50th; but he still makes the list.

he isn't better than Pac, but their aren't 49 other rappers that are even half way near what Pac was.

you've already tried to shoot down every rapper i mention, so what the fuck would listing 50 more of them accomplish? Like I said before, think about the realistic reasons why Pac is better than Crooked I and you'll see what I mean.

you said Common lol.

your other list had two guys who i agreed with & a bunch of guys i never even heard of; i would assume if they were really hands down better than Crooked I i would have heard a little something from them.
 

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« Reply #144 on: July 02, 2009, 03:27:04 PM »
see, no way lol.

Crooked I >>> Common & it's not even close.

like i said, he is a top 50 rapper; make a list (a real list), with no "gimmies" like Common & tell me Crooked I doesn't make it lol.

someone actually tried to say Common was better than Crook??? lolzers

Let me know when Crooked I releases 6 near classic albums and one of his songs is considered one of the greatest hip hop songs of all time.
 

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« Reply #145 on: July 02, 2009, 03:32:20 PM »
^i'm not sayin' he is the second best rapper of all time behind Pac lol.

i said make a list of 50 of the greatest rappers & tell me you'd leave him off of it.

you can put him 48th, 49th or 50th; but he still makes the list.

he isn't better than Pac, but their aren't 49 other rappers that are even half way near what Pac was.

you've already tried to shoot down every rapper i mention, so what the fuck would listing 50 more of them accomplish? Like I said before, think about the realistic reasons why Pac is better than Crooked I and you'll see what I mean.

you said Common lol.

your other list had two guys who i agreed with & a bunch of guys i never even heard of; i would assume if they were really hands down better than Crooked I i would have heard a little something from them.

I only listed those to show there are better pure rhymers than Crooked because that is apparently how you judge a great rapper. I wouldn't even consider half of those great rappers because not all of them can come out with great albums.

Most people don't know who Crooked is either. Weren't you just trying to argue that popularity doesn't matter?
 

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« Reply #146 on: July 02, 2009, 04:21:27 PM »
^it doesn't matter at all, but i still think i would have heard them by now if they were putting out the heat Crooked I is; or "better" than Crooked I is.
 

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« Reply #147 on: July 02, 2009, 04:28:47 PM »
^it doesn't matter at all, but i still think i would have heard them by now if they were putting out the heat Crooked I is; or "better" than Crooked I is.

I doubt it. No offense but I don't think your hip hop knowledge is very wide, based on you only knowing Blackalicious out of my list (and everyone knows about gift of gab)
 

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« Reply #148 on: July 02, 2009, 04:32:18 PM »
^i guess not, but ask anybody else who knows he or the rest of your list & ask them whose better. ;)
 

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« Reply #149 on: July 02, 2009, 04:50:58 PM »
^i guess not, but ask anybody else who knows he or the rest of your list & ask them whose better. ;)

Been there done that homie. On other forum's I'M the one who's defending Crooked.

This is basically a Crooked I board so I know half the people on here aren't going to agree with me.  

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