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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2009, 08:52:02 AM »
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.

tryna make that quick buck with newspapers. :-\
 

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« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2009, 01:32:48 PM »
Spiritual teacher and medical doctor Deepak Chopra said Saturday he had been concerned since 2005 that Michael Jackson was abusing prescription painkillers and most recently spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use six months ago.Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, asked him for painkillers in 2005 when the pop star was staying with him following his trial on sex abuse allegations.

Chopra said he refused but added the nanny of Jackson's children repeatedly contacted him with concerns about Jackson's drug use over the next four years.
He said she told him a number of doctors would visit Jackson's homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York.
Whenever the subject came up, Jackson would avoid Chopra's calls, Chopra said.

Meanwhile, Janet Jackson arrived at her brother Michael's Holmby Hills estate, where moving vans arrived earlier in the day.
Janet Jackson, wearing dark glasses, drove up in a Bentley and went directly to the estate. About eight movers had taken dollies and packing equipment through the gates. It wasn't immediately known what was being taken out.

Most of Michael Jackson's family members had gathered in their Encino compound, where they were contemplating funeral arrangements and caring for his three children. They are feeling confused, upset and angry by the lack of information about those who were around the pop superstar in his final days, a person close to the family told The Associated Press.

Jackson's family wants to know more specifics about what role AEG, the concert promoter that was staging his 50-date concert series at London's 02 Arena, was playing in his life, said the person, who requested anonymity because of the delicate nature of the situation. They also want to know more about the role of his advisers and representatives, who they believe were put in place by the promoter.

AEG spokeswoman Natalie Whorms in London had no comment.

Jackson never communicated to his family who he had in place to handle his business affairs, the person said, adding that they were told by the singer's phalanx of advisers that he likely had a will, but it may be many years old. The family is distrustful of what they are being told — but they are determined to find out more, the person said.
"There are decisions going down without the family being in the loop; it's becoming an issue," the person said.

Randy Phillips, AEG Live president and chief executive, said Friday that it was Jackson who insisted that Dr. Conrad Murray, a financially troubled cardiologist who was with the entertainer when he collapsed Thursday, be put on the tour payroll.

"As a company, we would have preferred not having a physician on staff full-time because it would have been cheaper without the hotels and travel, but Michael was insistent that he be hired," Phillips said. "Michael said he had a rapport with him."

Jackson collapsed Thursday at his rented home in Los Angeles. Police seized Murray's car in search of evidence, but have insisted that the doctor has been cooperative and do not consider him a criminal suspect.

Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray, who practices medicine in California, Nevada and Texas; his Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments, and he faces at least two other pending cases and several tax liens.

The person close to the family said that while there were reports that the singer was distant from his family, Jackson spoke with his mother, Katherine, quite regularly and his father, Joe, had seen his son shortly before his death. His other eight siblings, including fellow superstar Janet, may not have talked to him recently but were not estranged.
Much of the family was holed up Friday inside the Jackson family's Encino compound, including his three children, according to the person, who described them as doing "pretty good."

"I don't think it's fully set in yet," the person said.

The pop star left behind three children: Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., known as Prince Michael, 12; Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11; and Prince Michael II, 7. The elder children were born to ex-wife Deborah Rowe, while the youngest is his biological son, born to a surrogate mother.

Rowe and Jackson married in 1996 and divorced in 1999.

No family members were present in the mansion when Jackson died Thursday, the person close to the family said. In the call to the emergency dispatcher released by fire officials Friday, an unidentified caller tells a dispatcher that Jackson's doctor is performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Asked by the dispatcher whether anyone saw what happened, the caller answers: "No, just the doctor, sir. The doctor has been the only one there."

Coroner's officials said they released Jackson's body to his family late Friday night. The family is still trying to determine what kind of memorial to have for Jackson and when, and are debating between the idea of having a private ceremony or a grand celebration open to the public, the person close to the family said.

Jackson appeared to have suffered a heart attack, another person with knowledge of the situation who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity told the AP on Friday. A heart attack is a blocking of the arteries that deprives the heart of adequate blood and can cause cardiac arrest.

Jackson's brother Jermaine said Thursday that it was believed the pop singer went into cardiac arrest, an interruption of the normal heartbeat that can be caused by factors other than a heart attack.

The Los Angeles County coroner's office, which completed its autopsy Friday, said there were no signs of foul play or trauma, but determining the cause of death will require further tests that will take six to eight weeks.

Phillips said AEG Live held multiple insurance policies covering cancellation of the shows, and that some time in February Jackson submitted to several hours of physicals that the insurance underwriter insisted upon, and that Jackson passed them all.

"We had pretty good coverage, but a lot of it is going to depend on the toxicology results," he said. "We need to know what the cause of death was."
 

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« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2009, 01:36:07 PM »
Pop music critic Robert Hilburn recalls the years when the public turned its back on the singer. 'I'm lonely,' a 23-year-old Jackson said

I'll always regret that my last conversation with Michael Jackson ended with him angrily hanging up the phone -- at least I've long thought of Michael's mood that day more than a decade ago as angry. I realize now that a more accurate description would be "wounded."

Michael was among the sweetest and most talented people I met during 35 years covering pop music for the Los Angeles Times.

I was fortunate to be present at many of his proudest moments. I was in the audience the night in 1983 that he unveiled the electrifying Moonwalk on the Motown TV special and in the studio in 1985 for the all-star "We Are the World" recording session. I was with him at the Jackson family home in Encino soon after he purchased the Beatles song catalog in 1985.

Michael struck me as one of the most fragile and lonely people I've ever met. His heart may have finally stopped beating Thursday afternoon, but it had been broken long ago.

During weekends I spent with him on the road during the Jacksons' "Victory" tour in 1984, I learned that he was so traumatized by events during his late teens -- notably the rejection by fans who missed the "little" Michael of the Jackson 5 days -- that he relied desperately on fame to protect him from further pain. In the end, that overriding need for celebrity was at the root of his tragedy.

I first met Michael in the early days of the Jackson 5 at the family home in Los Angeles, and the memory that stands out is that Michael, as cute and wide-eyed as an 11-year-old could be, was eager to get through the interview so he could watch cartoons before having to go to bed.

When I caught up with him a decade later, his personality had changed radically. That happy-go-lucky kid was nowhere to be found.

Michael's sales had fallen off dramatically in the mid-1970s, and by the time he reemerged with the hit "Off the Wall" album in 1979, he was scarred emotionally. There's often a gap between a performer's public and private sides, but rarely was it as noticeable as with Michael.

Sitting at the rear of the tour bus after a triumphant concert in St. Louis in 1981, Michael was anxious, frequently bowing his head as he whispered answers to my questions. In contrast to the charismatic, strutting figure on stage, he wrestled with a Bambi-like shyness. Despite the resurgence in his popularity, he complained of feeling alone -- almost abandoned. He was 23.

When I asked why he didn't live on his own like his brothers, rather than at his parents' house, he said, "Oh, no, I think I'd die on my own. I'd be so lonely. Even at home, I'm lonely. I sit in my room and sometimes cry. It is so hard to make friends, and there are some things you can't talk to your parents or family about. I sometimes walk around the neighborhood at night, just hoping to find someone to talk to. But I just end up coming home."

That's as far as Michael could go that night to explain his deep-rooted anguish. It would be four more years before he was willing to tell me more.

Michael had signed a book deal with Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, an editor at Doubleday, before the "Victory" tour, and he wanted me to help him write it. I spent several weekends on the road with him during the tour. I soon discovered that Michael -- who guarded his privacy at all costs -- wanted to put together a picture book, while Onassis wanted a full-scale biography.

After a showdown between the two, Michael's longtime attorney and friend John Branca called to thank me for my efforts and said Doubleday was going in a different direction. My involvement ended.

During our time together, my conversations with Michael sometimes led -- once the tape recorder was off -- to darker moments from his past. One night when we were going through a stack of old photos, a picture of him in his late teens triggered a sudden openness.

"Ohh, that's horrible," he said, recoiling from the picture.

Michael explained that his face was so covered with acne and his nose so large at that time that visitors to the family home in Encino sometimes wouldn't recognize him. "They would come up, look me straight in the eye and ask if I knew where that 'cute little Michael' was." It was as if the "whole world was saying, 'How dare you grow up on us.' "

Michael said he started looking down at the floor when people approached or would stay in his room when visitors came to the house.

Michael vowed to do whatever it took to make people "love me again." The rejection fueled his ambition to be the biggest pop star in the world and to try to make his face beautiful. Unfortunately, Michael's need was so great that no amount of love seemed to be enough.

The stage was his sanctuary. There, he was larger than life and no one could threaten him. Every time he left the stage, he said, he felt vulnerable again.

In the 1981 interview, he told me, "My real goal is to fulfill God's purpose. I didn't choose to sing or dance. But that's my role, and I want to do it better than anybody else. I still remember the first time I sang in kindergarten class. I sang 'Climb Every Mountain,' and everyone got so excited.

"It's beautiful at the shows when people join together. It's our own little world. For that hour and a half, we try to show there is hope and goodness. It's only when you step back outside the building that you see all the craziness."

Michael's hunger for fame and success struck me as increasingly obsessive and unhealthy.

Even though 1982's "Thriller" was the biggest-selling album of all time, Michael told me one night that his next album would sell twice as many copies. I thought he was joking, but he had never been more serious.

As years went by, I watched with sadness as his music went from the wonderful self-affirmation and endearing spirit of "Thriller" to something increasingly calculated and soulless. His impact in the marketplace waned accordingly. It appeared that his desperate need for ultra stardom -- the "King of Pop" proclamation -- and his escalating eccentricities made it difficult for audiences to identify with him.

Even some of his "Thriller" fans were ultimately turned off. In the public mind, he went from the "King of Pop" to the "King of Hype."

When I surveyed leading record industry executives in 1995 to determine pop's hottest properties, Michael wasn't in the top 20.

One executive said flatly: "The thing he doesn't understand is that he'd be better off in the long run if he made a great record that only went to No. 20 than if he hyped another mediocre record to No. 1. The thing he needs is credibility."

Another executive said simply that Michael was "over."

Michael was furious when he called me the day after the story ran in The Times.

How could I betray him by writing such lies?

Couldn't I see the record executives were just jealous?

I tried gently to tell him that I thought there was some truth in what the executives were saying and that he had lost touch with the qualities that once made him so endearing.

"That hurts me, Robert," he said, his voice quivering.

I felt bad.

I started to say that he could be as big as ever if he would only . . . , but I couldn't complete the sentence.

Michael hung up.

After that, I followed his life from a distance -- the child molestation charges, the battle with painkillers, the marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, the increasingly bizarre lifestyle.

Although he would periodically announce recording projects or touring plans, I couldn't imagine, after all the humiliation and disappointment, that Michael could find the strength to step in front of the public again. I thought the fear of failure was too great. It was easier to stay in a fantasy land.

So I was surprised when he announced that he was returning to the stage in a few weeks and was even more surprised when he sold out 50 nights at the O2 Arena in London.

Maybe Michael was stronger than I thought. It took enormous courage to be willing to go back on stage for what could be a make-or-break moment -- and the ticket demand must have given him hope. Despite all that had happened, he saw that he was still loved by millions of fans.

In the best scenario, Michael, 50, would have triumphed in London, not only erasing his mountain of debt but also restoring to himself the sense of invincibility that fame represented. Failure in those shows, however, could have left him even more wounded and vulnerable.

As the July dates neared, I imagined Michael's anxiety mounting day by day, even hour by hour. There must have been days when he felt he could do it, could reclaim his crown with a series of breathtaking performances and stand forever alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles in pop music lore.

But what if he was wrong?

What if he wasn't strong enough, physically and emotionally? What if he couldn't live up to expectations?

What if no amount of adulation could make him feel safe again?

The stress must have been immense -- and maybe in the end it was too much for his broken heart.

 


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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2009, 01:37:47 PM »
i've seen deepak chopra speak at live events. he's amazing and brilliant.

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« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2009, 01:50:51 PM »
God should have just taken Bobby Brown!!!!
 

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« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2009, 02:10:14 PM »
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.

tryna make that quick buck with newspapers. :-\

nah i seen in the video when there was a tour goin past his house n the ambulance was outside u could see a photographer go right to the back windows of the ambulance and snappin pics.
 

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« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2009, 02:13:42 PM »
People is sad.
 

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« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2009, 01:46:43 AM »
I was actually a block UCLA Ronald Reagan Medical Center when he showed up (the med school is across the street. I had no idea what happened until I got to my room and saw what happened. Then I rushed down to the hospital, but it was a media shit storm so I just went back to my room.

I still can't believe it. I practically worshiped the guy when I was a kid. Smooth Criminal was and still is my favorite video of all time.
 

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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2009, 04:01:25 AM »
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.

tryna make that quick buck with newspapers. :-\

nah i seen in the video when there was a tour goin past his house n the ambulance was outside u could see a photographer go right to the back windows of the ambulance and snappin pics.
Yea its pretty obvious by the picture n the reflection of that red car.
 

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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2009, 07:49:16 AM »
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

point is, for 6-7 years he has been dead to most as a musician & became a world-wide joke; he past away & people act like their his biggest fan ever & they act like they gave a shit what he did for the last 8 years lol.

not aiming this at anyone on this board, i just mean in general for the world.
 

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« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2009, 04:18:41 PM »
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

Exactly. That's what I've been bitchin' to people about this whole weekend. Fuckin' hypocrites who follow hype.
 

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« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2009, 05:39:55 PM »
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

point is, for 6-7 years he has been dead to most as a musician & became a world-wide joke; he past away & people act like their his biggest fan ever & they act like they gave a shit what he did for the last 8 years lol.

not aiming this at anyone on this board, i just mean in general for the world.
not me, its still fuck that fruitcake to me. he was groundbreaking as an entertainer but as far as a person on this earth, fuck him.
 

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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2009, 05:44:58 PM »
exactly therefore FUCK THA INDUSTRY




yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

Exactly. That's what I've been bitchin' to people about this whole weekend. Fuckin' hypocrites who follow hype.
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine flu
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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2009, 05:57:32 PM »
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

point is, for 6-7 years he has been dead to most as a musician & became a world-wide joke; he past away & people act like their his biggest fan ever & they act like they gave a shit what he did for the last 8 years lol.

not aiming this at anyone on this board, i just mean in general for the world.

Shows the hypocrisy of society.  White people got off tearing him down b/c white people love tearing down black celebs.  Blacks turned there back on him when he turned into a white woman. He has been a running joke for 15 + years now.  Now everyone loves him again because of death, shows how fucked up society is as a whole.
 

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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2009, 06:03:49 PM »
what does this have to do with white people? miss me with that.


anyway, you can check my post records, i've been speaking good on Michael for a long time


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« Reply #91 on: June 28, 2009, 06:11:22 PM »
what does this have to do with white people? miss me with that.


anyway, you can check my post records, i've been speaking good on Michael for a long time


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Yes you have, and so has Trauma (wherever he is), but I think he was referring to people in general. It's only natural. I used to get in some heated battles about how overrated he was. I don't have the desire to lash out at him now. I always liked his music, a lot, but I never bought into him like some of his fans on here did. It just didn't do it for me like Dylan or Springsteen did, but before I'd be up in arms defending my point. Now I just can't muster up the energy.

He was such a big part of my childhood. Knowing he is gone forever makes everything feel a bit off. I bash the Hulkster in debates as mich as anyone, but if he croaked tomorrow I'd feel bad.
 

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« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2009, 06:26:46 PM »
It's the reporters that are the worst. Weakminded mainstream America is one issue. Becuz people are gonna be people, but the fuckin' journalists, them who ARE the media, is what takes it to another level. Now that I've turned on CNN and MSNBC, these 'news analysts' are the same exact one's who, of course, followed the 2005 trial on Court TV, the people who sat before a camera in front of the courthouse who bashed the man, about his appearance, nose this, nose that, molester this, molester that, now ya'll are in some kind of state of mourning, falling over dude's achievements and talkin' on how he was a good man. Good man?? Bitch, you wrote a damn book about the dude in a negative way. Now you gon' compliment him. Fuck outta here.


If you ain't like dude from day one, and still don't, good for you. Least you real wit yourself. Unlike these lames who flip quicker than I don't know what, what ever flips fast.
 

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« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2009, 06:30:38 PM »
exactly damn good lookin for this str8 up
they the same muffuccaz who talked shit for years and now all of a sudden hes a nice person or a legend?
nah hes always been a legend
even them fake fucks came outta the hidin again jesse jackson and al?
they only come outta the hidin when theres some sort of media type of shit goin on
how come bet werent playin his muzik all day before, but when he dies awww lets do a tribute
fuck you rocsi, fuck you terrence fuck you bet fuck you jimmy, fuck you interscope lol
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It's the reporters that are the worst. Weakminded mainstream America is one issue. Becuz people are gonna be people, but the fuckin' journalists, them who ARE the media, is what takes it to another level. Now that I've turned on CNN and MSNBC, these 'news analysts' are the same exact one's who, of course, followed the 2005 trial on Court TV, the people who sat before a camera in front of the courthouse who bashed the man, about his appearance, nose this, nose that, molester this, molester that, now ya'll are in some kind of state of mourning, falling over dude's achievements and talkin' on how he was a good man. Good man?? Bitch, you wrote a damn book about the dude in a negative way. Now you gon' compliment him. Fuck outta here.


If you ain't like dude from day one, and still don't, good for you. Least you real wit yourself. Unlike these lames who flip quicker than I don't know what, what ever flips fast.
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« Reply #94 on: June 28, 2009, 06:34:48 PM »
And who was the 1st, the FIRST, to do a press conference? Al Sharpen....like nigga who the fuck are you and who gives a flyin' fuck what you got to say? Whatever. I don't know.

It's not even that big of a deal, I guess. But when you're sittin' there tryin' to get details on somethang like this and you got these people with big opinions, and they flip floppin', becuz of unfortunate events, shit's just annoyin'.
 

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« Reply #95 on: June 28, 2009, 06:37:01 PM »
and ive been sayin FUCK THA INDUSTRY not jus cuz of this, but ive been sayin it for years but its cuz of shit like this
fuck buyin muzik and makin them rich

and then if awards gets bad ratings they gon blame it on "the special tribute" they had to do in honor of mj
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« Reply #96 on: June 28, 2009, 09:14:03 PM »
He's getting the Princess Diana treatment. They shit on you til you die and then everyone feels bad for you.
 

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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #97 on: June 28, 2009, 09:21:01 PM »
yeah he was white til now
now jaime foxx says he was black, he was their black not white
how come he wasnt black all the time, but now him n others are tryin eat off his fame?
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He's getting the Princess Diana treatment. They shit on you til you die and then everyone feels bad for you.
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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #98 on: June 29, 2009, 12:08:53 AM »
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Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
« Reply #99 on: June 29, 2009, 03:50:37 AM »
He's getting the Princess Diana treatment. They shit on you til you die and then everyone feels bad for you.

That's not true; I stayed shittin on Diana after her death. Plus, she got a whole lot of positive attention in the media for many years for doing fuck all.