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laker, magic, heat, sun, cav, shaq is my all time favorite player but i'm not secure with him being number 4 on all time greatest players list...yeah i think he could have dominated bill and wilt, and for that matter kareem as well, he cut his teeth in the biggest big man era so i have no problem with people saying he's the #4 #1 option ever. but greatness is something different.....jordan was jordan........that's your number one dude of all timebut magic should be number #2......9 finals appearances, dude played all 5 positions and excelled at them all. he was the greatest player ever until jordan can into his own. and that's all that really ever has to be said, in shaq's blurb it said that he always made everyone around him better....which has always been true, but the person that always did that the best was magic...magic was the ultimate player....like i said you have to look to jordan for a greater playerwilt should be number 3.....plain and simple he's the stuff of legend.....like i said i'm pretty sure shaq would make him look like greg ostertag , but he was the original and when you think about greatness and NBA it start and ends with wiltBill Russel should be Number 4 on that list, like wilt when you think of greatness and NBA it starts back in the day with wilt and you turn the page and you have Bill and his ring collection. then i think once you get to number 5 that's when you start having problems and debate trying to rank players. the first four.....that's pretty much set in stone until either shaq breaks some rebounding or scoring records or kobe lebron, or timmy wins a significant amount of championship hardware before they retire.
Shaq could have dominated Bill, Wilt & Kareem if he played in their ERA.but it was a different game back then; Shaq would have gotten called for offensive fouls & travels back in the day lol.i wonder if Bill, Wilt & Kareem would even be the players they are remembered as if they played in today's game basketball.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PMwhere would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker. If it were Laker fans making the list it would go something like...1. Kobe2. Magic3. Kareem4. Shaq5. Laker6. Laker7. Laker8. Laker9. Laker10. Jordan....maybe...
where would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker.
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 03:29:04 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PMwhere would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker. If it were Laker fans making the list it would go something like...1. Kobe2. Magic3. Kareem4. Shaq5. Laker6. Laker7. Laker8. Laker9. Laker10. Jordan....maybe...Don't be mad at us if Lakers is the best franchise in NBA history.P.S. Add Chamberlain and West in that top-10 and maybe you got it right.
Quote from: Antonio on June 28, 2009, 04:14:54 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 03:29:04 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PMwhere would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker. If it were Laker fans making the list it would go something like...1. Kobe2. Magic3. Kareem4. Shaq5. Laker6. Laker7. Laker8. Laker9. Laker10. Jordan....maybe...Don't be mad at us if Lakers is the best franchise in NBA history.P.S. Add Chamberlain and West in that top-10 and maybe you got it right. last time I checked the celtics still hold the most titles ever won. If lakers surpass that they'll become the greatest franchise, but they aren't if you also count the past.
Quote from: 'EclipZe on June 28, 2009, 07:07:10 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 28, 2009, 04:14:54 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 03:29:04 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PMwhere would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker. If it were Laker fans making the list it would go something like...1. Kobe2. Magic3. Kareem4. Shaq5. Laker6. Laker7. Laker8. Laker9. Laker10. Jordan....maybe...Don't be mad at us if Lakers is the best franchise in NBA history.P.S. Add Chamberlain and West in that top-10 and maybe you got it right. last time I checked the celtics still hold the most titles ever won. If lakers surpass that they'll become the greatest franchise, but they aren't if you also count the past.LAST TIME I CHECKED...the Yankees have the most titles ever; they both have to surpass them if they want to be the greatest franchise!
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 28, 2009, 07:54:00 AMQuote from: 'EclipZe on June 28, 2009, 07:07:10 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 28, 2009, 04:14:54 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 03:29:04 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PMwhere would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker. If it were Laker fans making the list it would go something like...1. Kobe2. Magic3. Kareem4. Shaq5. Laker6. Laker7. Laker8. Laker9. Laker10. Jordan....maybe...Don't be mad at us if Lakers is the best franchise in NBA history.P.S. Add Chamberlain and West in that top-10 and maybe you got it right. last time I checked the celtics still hold the most titles ever won. If lakers surpass that they'll become the greatest franchise, but they aren't if you also count the past.LAST TIME I CHECKED...the Yankees have the most titles ever; they both have to surpass them if they want to be the greatest franchise! lol, smartass
Quote from: 'EclipZe on June 28, 2009, 12:12:59 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 28, 2009, 07:54:00 AMQuote from: 'EclipZe on June 28, 2009, 07:07:10 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 28, 2009, 04:14:54 AMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 03:29:04 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PMwhere would some people on this board put Shaq if he was still a Laker. If it were Laker fans making the list it would go something like...1. Kobe2. Magic3. Kareem4. Shaq5. Laker6. Laker7. Laker8. Laker9. Laker10. Jordan....maybe...Don't be mad at us if Lakers is the best franchise in NBA history.P.S. Add Chamberlain and West in that top-10 and maybe you got it right. last time I checked the celtics still hold the most titles ever won. If lakers surpass that they'll become the greatest franchise, but they aren't if you also count the past.LAST TIME I CHECKED...the Yankees have the most titles ever; they both have to surpass them if they want to be the greatest franchise! lol, smartass +1
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 10:01:37 PMShaq could have dominated Bill, Wilt & Kareem if he played in their ERA.but it was a different game back then; Shaq would have gotten called for offensive fouls & travels back in the day lol.i wonder if Bill, Wilt & Kareem would even be the players they are remembered as if they played in today's game basketball.Athletes typically always get better. Especially over that long of a period of time. Kareem was recent enough that he could probably still compete. But Wilt and Bill would get dominated by any quality big over the last 15 yrs. Like you said, the game changes...and players evolve. Just look when you watch OLD NBA clips from back in the day and the PG's could hardly use their left hand lol
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 10:10:14 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 10:01:37 PMShaq could have dominated Bill, Wilt & Kareem if he played in their ERA.but it was a different game back then; Shaq would have gotten called for offensive fouls & travels back in the day lol.i wonder if Bill, Wilt & Kareem would even be the players they are remembered as if they played in today's game basketball.Athletes typically always get better. Especially over that long of a period of time. Kareem was recent enough that he could probably still compete. But Wilt and Bill would get dominated by any quality big over the last 15 yrs. Like you said, the game changes...and players evolve. Just look when you watch OLD NBA clips from back in the day and the PG's could hardly use their left hand lolgo look at how high Wilt Chamberlain's vertical jump was.... he would still dominate at 7'1 in today's NBA
Quote from: HACK WILSON on June 28, 2009, 03:03:41 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 27, 2009, 10:10:14 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 10:01:37 PMShaq could have dominated Bill, Wilt & Kareem if he played in their ERA.but it was a different game back then; Shaq would have gotten called for offensive fouls & travels back in the day lol.i wonder if Bill, Wilt & Kareem would even be the players they are remembered as if they played in today's game basketball.Athletes typically always get better. Especially over that long of a period of time. Kareem was recent enough that he could probably still compete. But Wilt and Bill would get dominated by any quality big over the last 15 yrs. Like you said, the game changes...and players evolve. Just look when you watch OLD NBA clips from back in the day and the PG's could hardly use their left hand lolgo look at how high Wilt Chamberlain's vertical jump was.... he would still dominate at 7'1 in today's NBALook at the difference in skills that a 7'1" player typically has now compared to then. You have 7 footers able to run a fast break, shoot the three, cross you over lol. Good luck with that one Wilt. Wilt was the most dominant player ever, for his time. But its utterly retarded to think that a 7 footer from Wilts time would dominate the league NOW the way they did THEN when they were the exception. Now, a 7 footer is the norm.
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