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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2009, 02:28:01 PM »
c blue I feel you but what if it is true?

If Jesus really is the savior then when I die I will see him and accept him as my savior then.

Well, that kinda defeats the whole purpose, don't ya think?

What purpose?
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 02:39:39 PM »
c blue I feel you but what if it is true?

If Jesus really is the savior then when I die I will see him and accept him as my savior then.

Well, that kinda defeats the whole purpose, don't ya think?

What purpose?

Jesus wants you believe in him. Now. Accepting him as your savior when you're dead and gone, face to face wit him, that's just...the complete opposite. If you don't believe The Bible, than 2 to 1, you don't believe in  Jesus, right? And in that Bible, according to the man himself, if ya ain't wit Jesus than your against him and if you deny him  he will deny you  to God. You're 'pose to accept him now. You trust in him, you trust in him, you don't, you don't. You can't be like, 'if I see him than I'll accept him'. He won't be there to come and get you..
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2009, 03:01:08 PM »
c blue I feel you but what if it is true?

If Jesus really is the savior then when I die I will see him and accept him as my savior then.

Well, that kinda defeats the whole purpose, don't ya think?

What purpose?

Jesus wants you believe in him. Now. Accepting him as your savior when you're dead and gone, face to face wit him, that's just...the complete opposite. If you don't believe The Bible, than 2 to 1, you don't believe in  Jesus, right? And in that Bible, according to the man himself, if ya ain't wit Jesus than your against him and if you deny him  he will deny you  to God. You're 'pose to accept him now. You trust in him, you trust in him, you don't, you don't. You can't be like, 'if I see him than I'll accept him'. He won't be there to come and get you..

Why trust someone who isn't there? Jesus doesn't speak to me. Jesus doesn't have an impact in my life. In the bible he is there with those people and telling them what to do. If he exists I sincerely doubt he expects people to believe in him based purely on a book written by a man.

I don't recall anything in the bible about labeling someone as being with or against Jesus. I think you're confusing Jesus with George W Bush and the war on terror. I also don't recall there being any time limit to when you can accept him. What I do recall is Saint Peter denying Jesus three times and yet he still one of the holiest figures in the religion. And that's one example out of many.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2009, 03:08:45 PM »
c blue I feel you but what if it is true?

If Jesus really is the savior then when I die I will see him and accept him as my savior then.

Well, that kinda defeats the whole purpose, don't ya think?

What purpose?

Jesus wants you believe in him. Now. Accepting him as your savior when you're dead and gone, face to face wit him, that's just...the complete opposite. If you don't believe The Bible, than 2 to 1, you don't believe in  Jesus, right? And in that Bible, according to the man himself, if ya ain't wit Jesus than your against him and if you deny him  he will deny you  to God. You're 'pose to accept him now. You trust in him, you trust in him, you don't, you don't. You can't be like, 'if I see him than I'll accept him'. He won't be there to come and get you..

Why trust someone who isn't there? Jesus doesn't speak to me. Jesus doesn't have an impact in my life. In the bible he is there with those people and telling them what to do. If he exists I sincerely doubt he expects people to believe in him based purely on a book written by a man.

I don't recall anything in the bible about labeling someone as being with or against Jesus. I think you're confusing Jesus with George W Bush and the war on terror. I also don't recall there being any time limit to when you can accept him. What I do recall is Saint Peter denying Jesus three times and yet he still one of the holiest figures in the religion. And that's one example out of many.

good point...even his own homeboys didnt buy into his bullshit. and besides...why the fucc would you wanna serve someone who turned the other cheek like a bitch.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2009, 05:01:30 PM »
Found one..

Quote from: Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.


And finally damn it, I found two, after a fuckin' witch hunt cuz I forgot where it was I read it..

Quote from: Matthew 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Found a 3rd also..

Quote from: Matthew 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.



I also don't recall there being any time limit to when you can accept him.
True, but I don't think he wants it to be life after death.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2009, 10:11:32 AM »
Found one..
Quote from: Matthew 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

is that supposed to scare us muthafucca? go somewhere else with that bullshit...go fucc a church
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2009, 10:16:01 AM »
Quote from: Matthew 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

a guy who talked like that in real life would be considered an asshole.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2009, 10:29:01 AM »
Bible is bullshit in allot of cases.
Preacher says don't gamble yet god made a bet with Satan about how devoted job was.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2009, 10:46:28 AM »
I specifically took out them quotes becuz somebody didn't 'recall'......ain't nuttin' supposed to scare you, it was backing what I said up..shit.

And I don't know where the fuck ya'll from, but the last thang anybody is, is considered an asshole, where I'm from.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2009, 10:49:35 AM »
I specifically took out them quotes becuz somebody didn't 'recall'......ain't nuttin' supposed to scare you, it was backing what I said up..shit.

And I don't know where the fuck ya'll from, but the last thang anybody is, is considered an asshole, where I'm from.

Can I give you some advise? (ah, fuck it, I will anyway)  Don't say "them quotes", because it demonstrates that you are of low education and therefore, your opinion is not worthy of anyone's respect.  It also demonstrates that you, like all religious people, are a total moron.
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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2009, 10:58:15 AM »
So sorry, I apologize.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2009, 11:25:50 AM »
I specifically took out them quotes becuz somebody didn't 'recall'......ain't nuttin' supposed to scare you, it was backing what I said up..shit.

And I don't know where the fuck ya'll from, but the last thang anybody is, is considered an asshole, where I'm from.

Where are you from? Where is this perfect society where there are no assholes?
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2009, 11:35:13 AM »
So according to your beliefs, someone can rape, murder, molest children, as long as they believe in Jesus they get to go to this heaven?

Meanwhile a guy who doesn't follow Jesus but is generous, kind, the best possible human being he can be, gets shafted?

That's fucked up any way you look at it.

What about a baby that gets killed before they even know what religion is? What about someone born in a place where they have never even heard of Jesus? What about someone born into a different religion?

This is the truth: if you hadn't been born into a Christian family, if you had been born Muslim, Jewish, any other religion, or atheist, you would not hold these same beliefs.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2009, 11:51:45 AM »
^ Whoa, whoa, I ain't said all that. Where's that coming from?

Aight, now I see what you said about the asshole comment, I read it differently than what you meant I think.



What about a baby that gets killed before they even know what religion is?
What about it?

Everyone from different religions is still looking up to the same power. Somethang bigger than us.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2009, 01:36:18 PM »
^ Whoa, whoa, I ain't said all that. Where's that coming from?

Aight, now I see what you said about the asshole comment, I read it differently than what you meant I think.



What about a baby that gets killed before they even know what religion is?
What about it?

Everyone from different religions is still looking up to the same power. Somethang bigger than us.

a baby has no concept of religion or Jesus, hence it can't be a follower of Jesus

Muslims and Jews don't believe that Jesus was the son of god, hence they wouldn't be following him either.

In your post you were saying that you had to follow Jesus to be accepted and get into heaven. So these people wouldn't be getting into heaven then, according to your beliefs.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2009, 01:39:51 PM »
any discussion about faith or religion is retarded when people aren't agreeing.
People will only fight about it
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2009, 02:26:59 PM »
Daygo ain't convinced, yet. :)


Nah, but really though.


a baby has no concept of religion or Jesus, hence it can't be a follower of Jesus

Muslims and Jews don't believe that Jesus was the son of god, hence they wouldn't be following him either.

In your post you were saying that you had to follow Jesus to be accepted and get into heaven. So these people wouldn't be getting into heaven then, according to your beliefs.

Yes, I said, what, Jesus said. And yeah them is my beliefs. But I'm sure them other religions will do what they gotta do to believe to get to Heaven. There's millions of religions, yeah, but there's only one God, so.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2009, 02:30:42 PM »
any discussion about faith or religion is retarded when people aren't agreeing.
People will only fight about it

Go listen to Mahalia Jackson, that'll convert anybody. :laugh:
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2009, 08:40:09 AM »
look quiet is right why would you believe in something you can finally see at the end?The whole thing is believeing in and haveing faith that he is there,and as for muslims they can be converted too.........

and as for babies ,I believe my son saw Jesus
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2009, 09:11:16 AM »
I once met jesus on the bus
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2009, 09:15:39 AM »
^ lol
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2009, 11:45:51 AM »
look quiet is right why would you believe in something you can finally see at the end?The whole thing is believeing in and haveing faith that he is there,and as for muslims they can be converted too.........

and as for babies ,I believe my son saw Jesus

Its called logic and reasoning. For the same reason I don't believe in fairies.
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2009, 04:13:46 PM »
So according to your beliefs, someone can rape, murder, molest children, as long as they believe in Jesus they get to go to this heaven?

Meanwhile a guy who doesn't follow Jesus but is generous, kind, the best possible human being he can be, gets shafted?

That's fucked up any way you look at it.

What about a baby that gets killed before they even know what religion is? What about someone born in a place where they have never even heard of Jesus? What about someone born into a different religion?

This is the truth: if you hadn't been born into a Christian family, if you had been born Muslim, Jewish, any other religion, or atheist, you would not hold these same beliefs.

you can say that again and these muthafuccas could never come up with an acceptable answer. RELIGION = BULLSHIT
 

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Re: God and a new belief
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2009, 10:31:33 AM »
let me try this c-blue...............

you ever cry alone and feel good all of a sudden?That is a hug from God..............ever gone alone somewhere and have someone tell you that Jesus loves you,that is God trying to talk to you,ever have someone die and all of a sudden you reach down deep and find out that person might be happy now?

just a thought,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

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« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2009, 11:27:55 AM »
you ever cry alone and feel good all of a sudden?That is a hug from God

Haven't cried since I was a kid, but no, that's called getting it out of your system. Its a psychological process.

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..............ever gone alone somewhere and have someone tell you that Jesus loves you,that is God trying to talk to you,

Those are Jehovah's Witnesses

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ever have someone die and all of a sudden you reach down deep and find out that person might be happy now?

No, but I have gone through the five stages of grief. The last stage is acceptance, and everyone goes through it because its impossible to live a normal life without accepting it in the end. And you have to accept it, because it happens to everyone and life goes on. This is another psychological process.

One of the things that annoys me about religious types is that you try to attribute everything good in people's life to a deity. Any struggle I go through, any obstacle I overcome, any success I have you want to claim its god's work. That's complete bull, not only that but you're being incredibly insulting by saying that and undermining people's accomplishments.

And somehow god's responsible for only the good times, not all the shitty times people go through. "You give praise to god in your speeches but not when shit ain't right." Riiiiiight.