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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #150 on: August 02, 2009, 09:01:54 PM »
I still think Move On is their best song...though I personally love the album. 

If I were to remove my personal feelings I would say,

1. The beat selection was weak.  Cuckoo and the one probably had the best beats.  Why?  Each beat fits the concept of the songs. 

2.  There needed to be a strong conceptual tie-in for the album.  For example, the concept of the album could have been introducing the world to each of the 4 members.  They could have done this with 4 in the mind skits, one for each member.  I think that Budden skit was brilliant. 

But, as we all know even if some of us don't want to admit it, Slaughterhouse also serves as a major vehicle in moving their solo careers forward by increasing their fan bases and industry connections.
like they got the cash for an album full of good beats

between the four of them? yes they do. and good doesnt necessarily mean expensive
 

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« Reply #151 on: August 02, 2009, 09:47:06 PM »
it ain't like cash comin out they own pockets for beats, most likely a budget
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #152 on: August 02, 2009, 10:02:42 PM »
great album...amazing.

joel ortiz!!  HOLY SHIT!!  i think he stole the show with his rhymes.

the only thing i didnt like was that recycled sample they used on Not Tonight. 



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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #153 on: August 03, 2009, 02:35:05 AM »
I'm gonna drop a short review tonight. I do have to say that Budden is definitely the weakest link and Ortiz surprisingly (or not) was the strongest. Quality lyricists and most important quality songwriter. Crooked and Royce tend to go off topic and just spaz out which ain't bad but it's not what I like hearing on albums.
 

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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #154 on: August 03, 2009, 08:05:32 AM »
I still think Move On is their best song...though I personally love the album. 

If I were to remove my personal feelings I would say,

1. The beat selection was weak.  Cuckoo and the one probably had the best beats.  Why?  Each beat fits the concept of the songs. 

2.  There needed to be a strong conceptual tie-in for the album.  For example, the concept of the album could have been introducing the world to each of the 4 members.  They could have done this with 4 in the mind skits, one for each member.  I think that Budden skit was brilliant. 

But, as we all know even if some of us don't want to admit it, Slaughterhouse also serves as a major vehicle in moving their solo careers forward by increasing their fan bases and industry connections.
like they got the cash for an album full of good beats

Yeah, I'm sure that's part of it.  Great beats tend to be more expensive but also it's a reflection of how one uses the beat.  Microphone is another good example of a beat put to proper use.

I'm a fan of the album so for me I'm just nitpicking.  I even thought Budden was dope even if he was the weakest link which I don't view him as.
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #155 on: August 03, 2009, 08:08:15 AM »
I still think Move On is their best song...though I personally love the album. 

If I were to remove my personal feelings I would say,

1. The beat selection was weak.  Cuckoo and the one probably had the best beats.  Why?  Each beat fits the concept of the songs. 

2.  There needed to be a strong conceptual tie-in for the album.  For example, the concept of the album could have been introducing the world to each of the 4 members.  They could have done this with 4 in the mind skits, one for each member.  I think that Budden skit was brilliant. 

But, as we all know even if some of us don't want to admit it, Slaughterhouse also serves as a major vehicle in moving their solo careers forward by increasing their fan bases and industry connections.
like they got the cash for an album full of good beats

Yeah, I'm sure that's part of it.  Great beats tend to be more expensive but also it's a reflection of how one uses the beat.  Microphone is another good example of a beat put to proper use.

I'm a fan of the album so for me I'm just nitpicking.  I even thought Budden was dope even if he was the weakest link which I don't view him as.
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #156 on: August 03, 2009, 08:13:48 AM »
great album...amazing.

joel ortiz!!  HOLY SHIT!!  i think he stole the show with his rhymes.

the only thing i didnt like was that recycled sample they used on Not Tonight. 

Mostly all samples these days are recycled. Pete Rock used the sample on the 1st track better than Streetrunner used it.

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« Reply #157 on: August 03, 2009, 08:23:51 AM »
Anybody else not really enjoy it that much?
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #158 on: August 03, 2009, 08:35:52 AM »
Anybody else not really enjoy it that much?
From the first few tracks...Not really...

More of a mixtape sounding album.
 

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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #159 on: August 03, 2009, 09:25:07 AM »
Anybody else not really enjoy it that much?

Like I said, beat wise, no. They were a big letdown for me. But they did come good lyrically. Next album will be better for sure.

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« Reply #160 on: August 03, 2009, 09:42:20 AM »
Anybody else not really enjoy it that much?

Like I said, beat wise, no. They were a big letdown for me. But they did come good lyrically. Next album will be better for sure.

Yeah, that's true. I was real dissapointed with the DJ Khalil beats on the album.
 

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« Reply #161 on: August 03, 2009, 10:04:16 AM »
Game would fir perfectly into this album, with all that name dropping
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #162 on: August 03, 2009, 12:47:16 PM »
Ok, here's my short review:

Sound Off - Good track to start the album, sort of like an intro. Ortiz definitely stole the show (crazy flow), Royce and Crook did their thing, Budden was the weakest. Nice production and chorus too. No clear sing of any songwriting but since it's the intro I can accept it (sort of like Luda does with all his intros). 4/5

Lyrical Murderers - like how the beat kicks in, Dre-ish beat from Focus who also stepped his mixing game up lately (Busta joints). Horrible chours, dude sounds like a Chris Brown clone (Kobe should've done the hook). Crooked I had a great verse on point with the topic, Royce was weak talking about gangsta shit not really on topic, Budden also rambling about random shit, Ortiz killed it again and stayed on topic. 4/5 (would get a 5/5 if it was only Crook & Ortiz)

Microphone - insane beat. I guess this beat called for another "I'm a super lyrical MC" type of track. Budden is the best on this one, real sharp delivery. Other 3 were cool, what you'd expect from them. 4/5

Not Tonight- as soon as the beat and chorus kicks in I got a feeling like they jacked a Jay song (maybe Roc Boyz?). Anyways, like the vibe of this song, more fun and chilled. I probably like Budden most, then Ortiz and then Royce. They all seemed in comfortable while Crooked sounded out of place, like he didn't know how to rap with this type of vibe. 4/5

The One - everybody heard this by now, nothing special 3/5

Cuckoo - not feeling this track at all. From annoying Khalil beat to the subject of the track itself; we've already had Lyrical Murderers and Microphone that are like a mix of this one 3/5

Onslaught 2 - Lovely soulful beat and 4 killed it. Another song with no real structure though. But because this could've been an even better intro track than Sound Off I'm giving it a  5/5

Salute - Love the beat as always with Porter and the chorus is the shit. Don't like what they decided to do with this beat though, Royce and Budden sounded like they about to fall asleep kicking the laid back flow, while Oritz showed how it's done proper, Crook was alright. 3/5

Pray - like the beat and chorus. Great storytelling from Ortiz, Royce again off topic but luckily picked up in the 2nd part of the verse, Crooked I did his thing 4,5/5

Cut You Lose - Another soulful beat like on Onslaight 2. Love the subject on this one, dissing the hip-hop game, all 4 of them were great 5/5

Rain Drops - Don't like the hook. But other than that a great introspecitve joint. Crooked I killed it with flow too 4,5/5

Killaz -  Another awful hook, average beat. Dissapointing ending of the album 3/5


Well the album has 2 predictable aspects; the production and songwriting. Especially the latter bothers me, too many random tracks not enought songs with a clear topic. Ortiz was the best on the album, stayed on topic most of the time and also a good mixture of delivery, flow and lyrics.
 

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« Reply #163 on: August 03, 2009, 01:06:21 PM »
Anybody else not really enjoy it that much?

Like I said, beat wise, no. They were a big letdown for me. But they did come good lyrically. Next album will be better for sure.


I think thats whats dissapointing for me, i cant go back to a track just for the lyrics, not 1 track stood out for me, i like the Focus track if i had to say 1
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Re: Slaughterhouse-Slaughterhouse-2009-H3X (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #164 on: August 03, 2009, 04:01:05 PM »
Game would fir perfectly into this album, with all that name dropping

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« Reply #165 on: August 03, 2009, 04:14:00 PM »
i got to listen to the album on friday and see them live on saturday!it worked out perfect
 

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« Reply #166 on: August 04, 2009, 01:04:03 AM »
anyone who use to say "Budden is terrible" have a change of opinion after bumping this shit? ;D 8)
the exact opposite, actually.

i wasnt a fan before this, but after listening to the album a few times, he should of been left on the cutting room floor. he has a couple good verses but he cant even compete with royce, crooked or ortiz, who shined the most, imo. 

now im wondering more than ever why people ride his jock so much.  the other 3 really put it down, and joe was just "meh".




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« Reply #167 on: August 04, 2009, 02:45:38 AM »
great album....

great for hip hop...

Joe budden is obviously the weakest out of all them........


wish Kurupt, any of of the bone thugs, tech n9ne, game, chami, ras kass, or eminem were on  a featured track... that would be fuckin dope...
 

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« Reply #168 on: August 04, 2009, 02:56:08 AM »
great album....

great for hip hop...

Joe budden is obviously the weakest out of all them........


wish Kurupt, any of of the bone thugs, tech n9ne, game, chami, ras kass, or eminem were on  a featured track... that would be fuckin dope...
Now that list seems more relevant based on mic skills at this moment.
 

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« Reply #169 on: August 04, 2009, 02:40:51 PM »
great album....

great for hip hop...

Joe budden is obviously the weakest out of all them........


wish Kurupt, any of of the bone thugs, tech n9ne, game, chami, ras kass, or eminem were on  a featured track... that would be fuckin dope...
Now that list seems more relevant based on mic skills at this moment.

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« Reply #170 on: August 04, 2009, 02:51:39 PM »
Budden is getting way to much hate but that doesnt surprise me.  There wasn't one weak verse by anyone on this whole album.


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« Reply #171 on: August 04, 2009, 03:00:55 PM »
All I'm saying in this thread:

Disappointing song concepts

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« Reply #172 on: August 04, 2009, 03:02:30 PM »
I just don't understand the mentality.  Like when you sign up to be a member of the Joe Budden fan club, do they make you sign a paper where you agree to hate on Crooked I for the rest of your natural life?  
Well you gotta understand that Joe made fun of Crooked I so they are obviously dickriding for Budden...goddamn, these must be the worst groupies ever.  :laugh:
I understand them though, they gotta cover-up any trace of Budden being the weakest link. Too bad Royce already said that Crooked killed these tracks.


Bottom line, Budden stans make Crooked I stans look like casual fans. They operate on another level. I know it sounds funny like I'm exaggerating, but it's true.

Make no mistake about it though, I like Joe Budden's music, which is all that matters.

Yeah.  I've noticed the Budden fans on here are very respectful.  So it isn't all the Budden fans.  But apparently, there's several places online where the Joe Budden fans are more like Joe Budden Cult members.  I also like Joe Budden's music.  But I don't see where it's written in stone that if you like Joe Budden songs, you have to hate Crooked I songs. lol  That doesn't make even a little bit of sense.  That's crazy.  Even Joe Budden himself likes Crooked I's music.  Why would his fans, as a group, decide Crooked I "is what's wrong with hip hop," ?  Ridiculous.

Yeah, I'm not talking about here. I'm talking about at Budden's forum. That's where the majority of the anti-Crooked, anti-Joell, anti-Royce charades goes down. Hell even anti-Joe sometimes depending on the circumstances. LOL

Also, if it ain't Mood Muzik-style of music, then they're gonna be hard to please. Lastly, I also think that whenever either Joell, Crooked or Royce stand out or shines more over a Slaughter House track, they're hesitant to give props to that artist. It's like they don't wanna acknowledge that those other 3 dudes are actually dope. They always try to find fault in something with those artists. But I will say that Joe gets criticized too, but in a different way.

Part of their issue with people like Crooked is that they think he's too technical and heavy with the multi-syllable style of raps. They feel like he has no substance and that all he does is rhyme random words together. Yet those same people will turn around and say they love Eminem's music. SMH That's not a slight to Em, because I'm a fan of his too.



That is exactly the reason I stopped posting there after the jump to JBTV.

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« Reply #173 on: August 04, 2009, 03:05:55 PM »
All I'm saying in this thread:

Disappointing song concepts

Yeah that is my only complaint with this album


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« Reply #174 on: August 04, 2009, 03:09:01 PM »
All I'm saying in this thread:

Disappointing song concepts

Yeah that is my only complaint with this album

I absolutely can't stand A.D.D. verses, no matter how lyrical they are..