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Luciferianism in the music industry.
« on: September 08, 2009, 12:02:44 PM »
 There are a lot of internet rumors about Jay-Z being a mason and delving into the worship of Lucifer.  I always knew that the media acts as sort of a social programmer and influences the masses mainly dumbing them down. I have recently starting catching on the the occultist symbolism that ALOT of these influential artists promote in there music.   I recommend watching the Industry Series part. 1-44. and this newer documentary titled Jay-Z Deception parts 1-11.
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Re: Luciferianism in the music industry.
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 12:19:30 PM »

I hear what he is saying but clearly the "diamond" is a lot more obvious, looking very little like a diamond and being thrown over the left eye. I don't know if he is a mason but it wouldn't surprise me and as for the new video, well it can be looked upon either way, the fact that it's set in a temple could be argued that they are pledging their allegieance/worshipping the "god" mc.  Whereas with the album title, the blueprint could be him simply take KRS One's title and proclaiming this is my grand design in hip hop for others to follow.
 

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 12:50:14 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
 

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 01:25:16 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
If you dig deep enough you will find the answers. Aleister Crowley was a known mason. Every single thing isn't a conspiracy but things like social programming and manipulation through the media are not conspiracies. The word conspiracy gets thrown around too loosely.
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 01:55:51 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

It's a character flaw and it's also one of the main symptoms of schizophrenia. These are people who are always wary of others and are constantly second guessing things. The schizos often go as far as to believe they are being watched at all times and the finger is almost always pointed at the government. Truth is the government couldn't even pull off a second rate break in (The Watergate). Conspiracy theories are often entertaining but 99.9% of them are complete BULLSHIT.
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 02:00:01 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
yeah
 

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 02:05:41 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
yeah

No they're not.
 

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 02:09:30 PM »
wasn't jay-z one of the biggest obama cheerleaders?

that pretty much destroys his real life credibility, devil worshipper or not....
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 02:12:30 PM »
This guy (the host) is so gassed up about the possible connections to masonry it's laughable. I can't believe some people still equate freemasonry with satan and conspiracies and such. There have been plenty of documentaries and literature out there exposing the inner workings of free masonry for people to learn that they really aren't a major deal, certainly not filled with malice at least.
 

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 02:19:56 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

It's a character flaw and it's also one of the main symptoms of schizophrenia. These are people who are always wary of others and are constantly second guessing things. The schizos often go as far as to believe they are being watched at all times and the finger is almost always pointed at the government. Truth is the government couldn't even pull off a second rate break in (The Watergate). Conspiracy theories are often entertaining but 99.9% of them are complete BULLSHIT.

It seems you simply want to reinvent what words mean because the act of conspiracy happens on a small scale and on a global scale, the act of conspiring can be seen by the actions of the IMF. Right now, pretty much in your face, the banks have shown the world that they can bring the very world to it's knees. We know politicians don't run shit because the very origins of the policies are devised by the think tanks, we know polticians don't run shit, because the larger world is outside of their control. For instance we can't take down the military industrial complex, we can't shut down the privately owned banks. Now anyone with half a brain recognises that certain status quo's remain in place because no one had dare cross certain boundaries. Oh but that's right, there in itself is an open admission that a shadow government exists.
So since a shadow government exists, then there is a continuous global conspiracy.

When the same countries who become dependent upon the IMF by the very fact that the loans themselves are designed to incur more dependence, they are free to negotiate providing they do so upon terms of the IMF. The IMF demands that they open up their markets, essentially do away with social funding and cut taxes (including massive corporation taxe cuts).  The policy of "free market, or "chigago school" thinking is wholly supported by the western politicians. In fact when addressing fellow politicians after each and every war, they talk about the need for a "democratic market".

We are on the edge of a GLOBAL DEPRESSION, they have poured in conservatively 18 trillion worldwide, the entire GDP of the UK is about 2 trillion and that's for all good and services, that isn't the profit. Years ago, the words "they are coming after your pension funds" was heard by supposedly paranoid individuals and I could never reconcile how that would come to light, however now it's apparent just what they mean. The former home secretary of the UK has been warning citizens here that they will have to pay to work until they literally drop because there is a huge black hole in the pension funds. These are unfunded liabilities and there is NO money there, there is no money because they have looted it all.
On the very back of the dollar bill, the words written in latin tell you what the plan is, the very pyramid itself TELLS YOU what the plan is. Now there are some who think that the power of this machine can be used for the betterment of humanity and the wider world but it's clear from their ongoing actions, there is a united front spearheaded into taking the world into this new world order. If they have their way, it aint going to be pretty.

They are the very people promoting the new world order after it was seen as being a "conspiracy theory" for so long. However you are now accepting and ignoring the fact that it was once mocked and denied and are now normalizing it into your conscious mind. Once again if you had even the slighted hint of critical thought, you would ask yourself how is that possible? "The government couldn't pull off a conspiracy" LOL, perhaps a single government can't but with the open collusion of many....you are seeing it.

Now again, I can't say whether Jay-Z is actually a mason, or whether he is simply intrigued by elements of it and has took upon certain things without fully embracing all aspects of it.

However as for Luciferarianism, Albert Pike (google him) said this in his book Morals and Dogma
Also watch Riddles In Stone

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit of darkness! Lucifer, The Son of The Morning! Is it he who bears the light . .? Doubt it Not!" (Pike, op. cit., p. 321. See also A Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand: An Introduction to the Conspiratorial View of History, Tucson, Arizona, Publius Press, 1985, p. 224).

"The Blue Degrees (the first three degrees of Masonry) are but the outer court or portico of the Temple.  Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their True explication is reserved for the Adepts (those who have advanced to the highest degrees in Masonry) . . . It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain (and any past Mason who has learned the truth, knows the almost complete futility in trying to enlighten his fellow Mason as to truth. For they have been so completely indoctrinated they will not listen, nor examine the evidence presented to them) . . . " (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819).

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Re: Luciferianism in the music industry.
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 02:39:46 PM »
This guy (the host) is so gassed up about the possible connections to masonry it's laughable. I can't believe some people still equate freemasonry with satan and conspiracies and such. There have been plenty of documentaries and literature out there exposing the inner workings of free masonry for people to learn that they really aren't a major deal, certainly not filled with malice at least.

Riddles In Stone features masonic historians, giving them the opportunity to answer these claims and then presents through their own literature that the historians aren't being completely "honest"
 

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Re: Luciferianism in the music industry.
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 02:42:55 PM »
The Grand Architect of freemasonry is Lucifer. How can one deny the occult symbolism in these videos? Jay is wearing a sweatshirt that says "do what thou wilt" on it in the making of the video for "Run this Town".

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"- Aleister Crowley
 

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 06:32:06 PM »
"Do what thou wilt" -was formulated by Crowley as a path of spiritual development based on seeking and putting into practice one's True Will, or destiny, the soul's Will rather than the ego's desires.

Do what thou wilt my niggas. Manifest on the strength. Master yo circumference. Do what thou wilt.


Its interesting people are kinda picking up on these things. But kids don't exactly have a well-rounded understanding of Masonry or Luciferianism when all the information you get is from paranoid internet propaganda. So the tendency is to assume it all is part of some grand-unified evil conspiracy. The reality is the meaning of symbols are subjective before anything else as we project our own individual thoughts and feelings onto them.
The Cross for example, won't have exactly the same meaning to every Christian from person to person, no-matter what some self-styled religious authority claims. The Cross meant something entirely different to Mother Teresa than it did to the Spanish Conquistadors for example. Its the same with the esoteric and the occult. A pentagram won't have exactly the same meaning as to Luciferians or Rosicrucians, as to a death mental head, or to a Tarot card reader, from person to person, no matter what any self-styled authority on the occult, or 'ex-Mason' on a goddamn internet conspiracy documentary may claim. The meaning of symbols is firstly personally subjective.


There is a much older and deeper held meaning to Satan, the Devil, or Lucifer than the traditional Judeo-Christian idea.

It is an ancient archetype, older than Judaism, Christianity or Islam, read the story within the context of the quote after and you may get what my nigga is trying to convey:




THE DEVIL

Tarot story

The Fool comes to the foot of an enormous black mountain where reigns a creature half goat, half god. At his hooves, naked people linked to the god's throne by chains, engage in every indulgence imaginable: sex, drugs, food, gold, drink. The closer the Fool gets, the more he feels his own earthly desires rising in him. Lust, passion, obsession, greed. "I refuse to give into you!" he roars at the Goat god, resisting with all his might. The creature returns a curious look. "All I am doing is bringing out what is already in you," the beast responds. "Such feelings are nothing to fear, nothing to be ashamed of, or even to avoid." The Fool gestures angrily at the chained men and women, "You say that even though they are enslaved?" The Goat-god mimics the Fool's gesture. "Take another look."

The Fool does so, and realizes that the chained collars the men and women wear are wide enough for them to easily slip off over their heads. "They can be free if they wish to be," the Goat-god says, "Though you are right. I am the god of your strongest desires. But you see here only those who have allowed their base, bestial desires to control them." At this the Goat-god gestures upward, toward the peak of the mountain. "You do not see those who have allowed their impulses and aspirations to take them up to the top of that mountain. Inhibitions can enslave as easily as excesses. They can keep you from following your passion to the highest heights." The Fool realizes the truth in this, and that he has mistaken the Goat-god. Here he understands now that it is not a creature of evil, but of great power, the lowest and the highest, both of beast and god. Like all power it is frightening, and dangerous...but it is also the key to freedom and transcendence if understood and well used.

Basic Tarot Meaning

Perhaps the most misunderstood card of all the major arcana, the Devil is not really "Satan" at all, but Pan the half-goat nature god and/or Dionysius. These are gods of pleasure and abandon, of wild behavior and unbridled desires. With Capricorn as its ruling sign, this is a card about ambitions; it is also synonymous with temptation and addiction. On the flip side, however, the card can be a warning to someone who is too restrained, someone who never allows themselves to get passionate or messy or wild - or ambitious. This, too, is a form of enslavement. As a person, the Devil can stand for a man of money or erotic power, aggressive, controlling, or just persuasive. This is not to say a bad man, but certainly a powerful man who is hard to resist. The important thing is to remind the Querent that any chain is freely worn. In most cases, you are enslaved only because you allow it.

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the obvious, we are the slave and the master.
What you lookin' for? You the question and the answer...


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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 08:56:52 PM »
Well yall have to know who you're talkin about.  NWO and Illuminati aren't the same thing, and neither are Masons NECESSARILY. 

The Illuminati were persecuted by the Catholic church.  Killed etc for their beliefs.  Because the catholic church said Lucifer was evil, the Illuminati thought he was good.  This is an understandable reaction since, to them, the catholic church was evil.  So they adopted the mindset that whoever the catholic church was good was really bad, etc.

So yeah, the tops of some of these groups are def luciferian.
 

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 11:26:00 PM »
hail satan
 

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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2009, 11:28:24 PM »
Lol @ people trying to decipher rap songs and judging a rapper's character off of shit they say in a song. Eazy E rapped about worshiping the devil when obviously he didn't. Eminem talks about killing people and being a homicidal maniac. Obviously he isn't. Grow up, its entertainment and 90% of it is shit talk.
 

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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2009, 04:56:59 AM »
Lol @ people trying to decipher rap songs and judging a rapper's character off of shit they say in a song. Eazy E rapped about worshiping the devil when obviously he didn't. Eminem talks about killing people and being a homicidal maniac. Obviously he isn't. Grow up, its entertainment and 90% of it is shit talk.
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2009, 07:33:10 AM »
most of the satanists ive known are atheists straight up. none of the niggas believe the devil exists. i sure as fucc dont. but i still got the triple sixes, i got the satanic bible on my bedstand and i got a few crosses turned upside down. it's the concept of satan that fascinates us. the shit is more funny to me than anything else.
 

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2009, 12:22:17 PM »
I was about to add about the different interpretations of who lucifer is, i.e. is he the evil depicted in the bible or whatever but beyond an interesting question, it really doesn't matter. All the top scum who rule the world are masons, I would bet my bottom dollar on that. So in their eyes they are bringing about all this evil for their "god"
If so much evil is needed to allow this to happen, then it speaks volumes and so it doesn't matter, if you are athiest, they believe that their actions are being guided by a higher power. Their actions personify evil, so I guess this tells you who lucifer is, of course what Pike pointed out also is that low level masons and yes I have spoken to several now, think the god in the bible is the same one they are worshipping in masonry.

 

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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2009, 01:50:17 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
yeah

No they're not.
you never heard of micro chipping?
 

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2009, 03:45:40 PM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
yeah

No they're not.
you never heard of micro chipping?

Yes, I have heard of micro chipping. Does it have anything to do with satanic ties to freemasonry? You know what, I'll let you explain the connection on this one, you're known as a smart guy around here..Why don't you tell me what micro chipping has to do with freemasons, and what that has to do satanism.
 

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2009, 11:16:34 PM »
How about he release the blueprint, had succes decided to do a bp 2 to fallow u that succes... dint have too  much succes with kingdom come and American Gangsta so decided to go back to a title that gave him succes?

And if he is Mason or wtv why dint people talk about it before, why only now? pleeease
 

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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2009, 12:14:30 AM »
This shit is too funny.

Why do people always think life is a giant conspiracy...

Is it proven mason's are satanic anyway.....?
yeah

No they're not.
you never heard of micro chipping?

Yes, I have heard of micro chipping. Does it have anything to do with satanic ties to freemasonry? You know what, I'll let you explain the connection on this one, you're known as a smart guy around here..Why don't you tell me what micro chipping has to do with freemasons, and what that has to do satanism.
i will email you a link to an article that i saved on the computer at work...
 

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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2009, 10:22:55 AM »
Alot of people believe RFID chips are the biblical mark of the beast. Rightfully so because some of it does parallel quite well.
 

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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2009, 10:42:09 AM »
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