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Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« on: October 30, 2009, 01:06:30 PM »
after the shit they did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...
 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 01:23:33 PM »
u got to be kidding me, are you a fucking retard?


japan is  as equivalent to germany, u think  germany or japan was going to give remuneration to all the counties they conquered and pillaged.



we dropped bombs on those cities so we basically dont waste another million human lives to conquer japan, and thats not including japans side of the casualties. plus MONEY, how muhc money do you think it would cost to have another full scale invasions just couple of years after d-day? this is the TOT, i suggest u think before you write topics like these. lol at thinkin economy, politics, and humans resources have nothing to do with war. if u did think that why u wouldnt of made this thread.


and if your white and your grandparnets/parents are ww2 veterans i dont see how you would be complaining, because chances are you wouldnt of been born.
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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 01:56:29 PM »
u got to be kidding me, are you a fucking retard?


japan is  as equivalent to germany, u think  germany or japan was going to give remuneration to all the counties they conquered and pillaged.



we dropped bombs on those cities so we basically dont waste another million human lives to conquer japan, and thats not including japans side of the casualties. plus MONEY, how muhc money do you think it would cost to have another full scale invasions just couple of years after d-day? this is the TOT, i suggest u think before you write topics like these. lol at thinkin economy, politics, and humans resources have nothing to do with war. if u did think that why u wouldnt of made this thread.


and if your white and your grandparnets/parents are ww2 veterans i dont see how you would be complaining, because chances are you wouldnt of been born.

Even more lives could have been saved if the government reacted when they knew Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor in the first place.  It can be spun anyway they want to, but dropping that bomb on innocent people was fucked up.  We attack countries all the time, Im sure we'd take no comfort in knowing that the other country is intending on "saving lives" by dropping a bomb in our neighborhoods and killing a bunch of civilians lol.  If they really wanted to deomonstrate their strength and scare the Japanese into submission...why kill innocent people.  We do a good job of making people who hurt Americans seem like animals.  But we're definetely so much better then that... :-\
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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 02:06:48 PM »
1. War was declared
2. Japan attacked first
 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 10:51:32 PM »
are you a fucking retard?
no but your mum is
you think germany or japan was going to give remuneration to all the counties they conquered and pillaged.
German taxpayers who have no Nazi affiliation, still pay remuneration till this day to relatives of the victims of WW2. On the basis of that precedent, America should pay remuneration costs to the families of all the new Japanese babies who are born fucked up cos the radiation from the nukes YOU guys dropped. But then again the whole world is used to the double standards America has in it's foreign policies.

i suggest you take off your patriotic hat that Uncle Sam gave you and do some objective research in to the real facts.
 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 11:02:31 PM »
Well it is true that Germany pays inofficial reperations to France and also big time money to the rest of the lesser states of the EU. That's what it is.

That's understandable in some way, though. Not that I dig it, but for all I know, they could have fucked us a lot worse after WW2. But they made it possible for us to be some real nigga country again, even though we were forced to accept mad foreigners and what not.

Still, Japan and Germany are quite similiar-they even sell Nazi-shirts there (which is big time illegal over here) .. So if you give them money, give us a break too ;D

Nah, Japan is too capable on its own for to get help from the US.. them US niggas be scuuured..
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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2009, 07:43:26 AM »
after the shit they did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki ...
What kind of remuneration you think they should receive?
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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2009, 08:56:23 AM »
Firstly the McCollum Memo highlights what history has been so quick to hide and that is the U.S wanted a war with Japan and left Japan with no choice but to attack first. So this argument used which says that Japan attacked out of the blue is bullshit. Secondly since they wanted Japan to attack first, Pearl Harbour would have been a prime candidate and yet the Memo was never officially announced either, so the unsuspecting navy men and their ships were used as sacrifices.

Furthermore bear in mind that technology is doubling at the rate of once every year now but conservatively I would guess that back then, technology was much slower in making strides forward. Now with also bearing in mind that military's make long term plans, I wouldn't be surprised if they were already working on the atomic bomb prior to Pearl Harbour and envisaged using it on that designated enemy.

The problem is when you read the history of the victors you are given a deceptive picture of the victors being reactionary when in fact, they were proactive in their approach. The net was already cast, the plans and structures were already being constructed and they simply waited patiently for the adversary to take the bait. As soon as they took the bait then they simply wait for the public outcry, the demand for action and sure enough, these men can then take centre stage, where they be idolised and praised as brave men making tough decisions and don't you dare question them, we have to support the troops.

Thus history repeats itself over and over again

Now...anyone for another war? after all we don't want to but we have to defend ourselves!

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 11:17:11 AM »
1. Who gives a shit, that was a long time ago.

2. The Japs took the bait if what you're saying is true. Its a fact that we had prior knowledge of some attack planned. So why do the Japs have to attack? because we took there oil??? Because we wanted to appear neutral???

3. Its know the Manhattan Project was already in development Pre-War. It was believe (and later variefied) Germans were investing into this Technology, so United States began its own research. The United States constantly does weapon research and Development. Everything from nuclear bombs to Bio weapons. We sell older models/designs every day to various countries, yet we retain a spot in the United Nations Security Council. China, Russia, United States of America, France, and United Kingdom have the power to veto and prevent any war/desolation indefinitely. Yet, The United States still sells its weaponry without a care. Many reasons such as political power, potential allies, and the ability to get a favor are the some of the reasons why this country does it.

4. Not all Jews got money, just the ones who survived. It can be considered back wages, for there time doing all the free slave labor/Atrocies.Obvlously, the United States feels a simple apology would suffice, and the fact that a lot of the slaves pretty much died, and only ones during that time are post-slave blacks who may be second class citizens, but did not do free labor. Paid shitty, but not with out nothing.

5. Its true America's embargo of Oil pretty much threw the Japan Army into disarray, but them lying under proclamations of peace wasn't our decision.

6. The Embargo, was put in place, do to the United States wishing to avoid the war. Us providing oil to the Japenese, would make it appear that we supported there invasion of China. If it was believed we were a part of the Axis Alliance,we  would of inharited there enemies. The Axis was already huge and dominating, but what each country was doing was basically just a quest for world domination.

Germany wanted to take over europe, and then later russia (Though, they had put there Russian Conquest on hold, do to a pact they had made with them). Basically these 3 powers wanted tried and make huge goverment on a world scale. At the time of there power, they had a huge ammount of control in there own parts, and would of just kept moving on. The Axis became a new temp party for nations. Many joined, some later left.

The United States, Nuclear weapons, proved one thing. We could do a huge scale of damage, with intense destructive conquences, and do it on a timely bases (every 2 weeks, which was the plan for Japan until either they surrender or were destroyed) which resulted in us becoming a huge party in the Allied parties.

You'll always hear WW2 stories talking about how the cause was so great, its because at the time it the Axis could and would of taken over every nation it could.

So why the fuck should we pay remunerations??? There hands are just as dirty as every other country during that time. United States had its own shady crap going on, Japan did, and obviously Germany did. Only reason why Jews got Reperations is because unlike a city during war, which was our enemy, That country Destroyed its own people.
 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 11:38:51 AM »

The jews were taken from eastern europe and not simply germany so it's not as simple as saying it went for it's own people.

Secondly the reparations are only paid if they can identify a surviving member in the ancestory of that person but primarily the reparations are being paid, no ancestory is being identified and thus it stays in a a huge holocaust survivors fund, or in reality some of it is, some of it has been feasted upon by parasites.

Read the McCollum memo it clearly wanted to provoke a response from Japan.
 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 04:31:14 PM »
thats whats up
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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2009, 04:41:51 PM »

The jews were taken from eastern europe and not simply germany so it's not as simple as saying it went for it's own people.

Secondly the reparations are only paid if they can identify a surviving member in the ancestory of that person but primarily the reparations are being paid, no ancestory is being identified and thus it stays in a a huge holocaust survivors fund, or in reality some of it is, some of it has been feasted upon by parasites.

Read the McCollum memo it clearly wanted to provoke a response from Japan.



It pretty much just talks about the war at that point in time, and if the united States was to be involved, what it would have to do. Its pretty much just another assessment, and that if the United States was to go to war, It would have to go under a pretense of being attack in order to garner support/not break campaign promises outright. Circumstantial at best, it mostly just shows the United States wasn't ignorant at the glaring evidence of the Axis power/Effect.  The revolutions and there possible effects. It talks about what the United States would have to do If they got involved at that time. It pretty much became some what irrelevant do to the fact its one entire year, before the Pearl Harbor attacks,  and the battlefields/conquest has changed.


If you dig up enough archives in any US war, You'll see similar documents, documenting the United Stats possible involvement in war. The US government won't just jump into a war with out at least gathering Some knowledge of what's going on. It be asinine, unlike Vietnam and the Iraq War (In which we pretty much had No True reason, and lie was conjured up to get Support) this one had a real threat to the country. So A course its going to keep tabs.

That found, has been abused a lot, but I mean come on, give anything and Parasites will leech.
 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 05:22:39 PM »

I think the latter parts of the memo are much more telling than the initial 2 points, so see here http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/McCollum/page4.gif and http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/McCollum/page5.gif.

 

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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 09:25:36 PM »
Its good the US 'wanted to provoke a response', its good the US wanted so bad to go to war with Japan its dick was hard. The Japanese were cunt-faces they had literally pillaged, raped and slaughtered their way around Asia and were making their way closer to Australia. They needed to be fucked up quick..and hard.


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Re: Why didn't/doesn't Japan receive remuneration from America ..
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2009, 02:51:57 PM »
because fuck em, thats why