Author Topic: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?  (Read 5925 times)

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2009, 03:29:50 PM »
Lots of different opinions going around...The one thing everyone can agree with is that "Dogg Food" was easily Daz's strongest album production-wise, and it was his first. Nobody is saying that Daz wasn't a good producer, but if you believe that his first beats were both his best and closest to the Dr. Dre sound, then you come off as naive...add to the fact that Snoop and Michel'le both claimed Dre did production on "Dogg Food", and you can at the very least conclude that Dre co-produced on some of the tracks..PeACe

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2009, 03:45:40 PM »
Everybody at DeathRow was working together from 93-96.  It was probably just like they said in the credits with Dre (Maybe/probably) adding a few touches here n there (which is part of the job of a Engineer/Mixer btw).  People stop imagining shit and stop talking about albums 15 years old for jesus sakes.  It was credited in the Re-Mastered version and OG Version, leave it at that.  Yeah some of the tracks sound Dr. Dre-like but what WestCoast music since 2004 hasn't sounded like a Dr. Dre beat?  Everybody from Nipsey Hussle to Mac Shawn has used a Dre-inspired sounding beat which is most likely what Daz & Soopa and all of them did (including Dre, if u get what i'm saying).  Dr. Dre would've taken credit or cash under tha table (and we'll never hear of it) if it was like that.  No need to carry on.  Next topic....


*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.
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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2009, 07:02:37 PM »
imo Dre must've. Daz hasn't made beats like that since.
Co-sign

Dogg Food in Ipod nwo. been listening to for the pass moth, along wtih Daz' RRGB
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2009, 07:17:09 PM »
Everybody at DeathRow was working together from 93-96.  It was probably just like they said in the credits with Dre (Maybe/probably) adding a few touches here n there (which is part of the job of a Engineer/Mixer btw).  People stop imagining shit and stop talking about albums 15 years old for jesus sakes.  It was credited in the Re-Mastered version and OG Version, leave it at that.  Yeah some of the tracks sound Dr. Dre-like but what WestCoast music since 2004 hasn't sounded like a Dr. Dre beat?  Everybody from Nipsey Hussle to Mac Shawn has used a Dre-inspired sounding beat which is most likely what Daz & Soopa and all of them did (including Dre, if u get what i'm saying).  Dr. Dre would've taken credit or cash under tha table (and we'll never hear of it) if it was like that.  No need to carry on.  Next topic....


*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.

lol at that garbage. every track on dogg food is better than that loud annoying garbage.
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2009, 07:22:47 PM »
Everybody at DeathRow was working together from 93-96.  It was probably just like they said in the credits with Dre (Maybe/probably) adding a few touches here n there (which is part of the job of a Engineer/Mixer btw).  People stop imagining shit and stop talking about albums 15 years old for jesus sakes.  It was credited in the Re-Mastered version and OG Version, leave it at that.  Yeah some of the tracks sound Dr. Dre-like but what WestCoast music since 2004 hasn't sounded like a Dr. Dre beat?  Everybody from Nipsey Hussle to Mac Shawn has used a Dre-inspired sounding beat which is most likely what Daz & Soopa and all of them did (including Dre, if u get what i'm saying).  Dr. Dre would've taken credit or cash under tha table (and we'll never hear of it) if it was like that.  No need to carry on.  Next topic....


*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.

lol at that garbage. every track on dogg food is better than that loud annoying garbage.


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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2009, 08:37:25 PM »
THE HOMMIE SCCIT AKA NIKCC KNOWS MORE ABOUT WEST COAST RAP THAN ANYONE 8) 8) 8) HE KICKS THE HOT FLOWS  8) 8) 8)
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2009, 02:48:08 AM »
*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.

lol at that garbage. every track on dogg food is better than that loud annoying garbage.

Great track but what the fuck does Sticky Fingaz have to do with Tha Dogg Pound?
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2009, 04:08:04 AM »
The argument about beats sounding more polished, layered and complex could be said about every producer who worked on records for Death Row back from 92-97.

Back then they had mulit-million dollar studios to work in (for free), a plethora of studio hands, junior producers, recording engineers, mixing engineers and musicians to assist them (for free), some of the most creative and talented producers in the game stumbling into their studio sessions to co-produce or otherwise contribute to their ideas etc, etc.  In addition to all that they had the immense pressure of creating music for a label that was dominating the West Coast market at the time.

Now a'days Daz makes music alone in his bedroom on his computer using Reason...a program that costs $300 bucks. So you can understand why the music sounds different.

As far as Daz's production methods are concerned, Mike Dean said that on the Dillinger and Young Gotti album all the records Daz gave him to work on just had the drums and vocals, maybe a hook or two, and he had to create the play the synths and keys. Which is consistent with what we knew of people like Soopafly's role which was to pay the keys on all Daz's stuff. It's the same thing Dre did and still does today with people like Mike Elizondo, Mauricio Iragorri, Dawaun Parker, Scott Storch, JT. Rotem et al. or whoever.

I think on Dogg Food Daz conceptualized a lot of the records and through the help of people like Soopafly, Emanuel "Porkchop" Dean, Dave Swang, Overdose and all the musicians (see Ricardo Rouse, Carl "Butch" Small etc) and a half-dozen or so recording/mixing engineers... helped Daz REALIZE the records and made them what they were.      


But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind if you dropped the Daz of 2009 in a 3 million dollar recording studio with a dozen people in it to help produce, play keys, bass and mix just like Dre has, then he could bang out another RR&GB easily.


Great post!!

A good example of a classic Daz track as basic drum track would be The Ultimate Come Up "OG" thats been floating around online forever. That shit is funky as hell and shows Daz's tallent for constructing a sick jazzy beat.

Compare it to the retail and the 'premix' as listenable as the completed track.
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2009, 05:37:31 AM »
*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.

lol at that garbage. every track on dogg food is better than that loud annoying garbage.

Great track but what the fuck does Sticky Fingaz have to do with Tha Dogg Pound?


nothin'.  people just ride Suge's dick too much.  DeathRow is dead even if it's WideAwake.  Talk about somethin' more new, DoggFood isn't all that great compared to more recenter records (post-2000)
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2009, 02:42:35 PM »
*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.

lol at that garbage. every track on dogg food is better than that loud annoying garbage.

Great track but what the fuck does Sticky Fingaz have to do with Tha Dogg Pound?


nothin'.  people just ride Suge's dick too much.  DeathRow is dead even if it's WideAwake.  Talk about somethin' more new, DoggFood isn't all that great compared to more recenter records (post-2000)

What would say are the best albums, post 2000?
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #55 on: November 06, 2009, 03:38:10 PM »
*bettr than anything on DoggFood.  This whole album is slightly above DoggFood.

lol at that garbage. every track on dogg food is better than that loud annoying garbage.

Great track but what the fuck does Sticky Fingaz have to do with Tha Dogg Pound?


nothin'.  people just ride Suge's dick too much.  DeathRow is dead even if it's WideAwake.  Talk about somethin' more new, DoggFood isn't all that great compared to more recenter records (post-2000)

What would say are the best albums, post 2000?


i'll name a few

mista dont play - project pat 2001
layin da smackdown - project pat 2002
stillmatic - nas 2001
the inspiration - jeezy 2006
word of mouf - luda 2001
theatre of the mind - luda 2008
release therapy - luda 2006
urban legend - ti 2004
the fix - face 2002
gods son - nas 2003
r.a.w - daz 2000
space boogie - kurupt 2001
the real testament - plies 2006
MADE - face 2007
btnhressurrection - bone 2000
UGK - UGK 2007
tha carter 1 & 2 - lil wayne
Bullets Ain't Got No Name Vol. III - nipsey 2008
Black Trash - The Autobio of Kirk Jones - sticky fingaz 2001

there's a few more, too many to name (including mixtapes/mainly mixtape tracks).  we used to wait years for albums, with the mixtape game nowadays u get new music atleast every 6 months, i figure u can just take the best tracks off of the tapes and grind em together on 1 album (even between the years)


and if u haven't actually took time to listen to tha album or just plain hate tha whole swag of some of the albums (plz save it 4 some1 that'll take ur bitching/opinion serious).
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Sccit

Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2009, 04:32:47 PM »
Sticky Figaz debut album was definitely an overlooked near classic and the original version (which played out like a movie with 30+ tracks) was even better...but that's a different topic.

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2009, 05:00:49 PM »
I BUMPED THIS SHIT ITS CLASSIC 8)
 

Okka

Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2009, 03:38:40 AM »
Sticky Figaz debut album was definitely an overlooked near classic and the original version (which played out like a movie with 30+ tracks) was even better

Never heard that shit, you got it?
 

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Re: YOUR OPINION: Did Dr. Dre ghost produce on "Dogg Food"?
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2009, 07:28:49 AM »
Sticky Figaz debut album was definitely an overlooked near classic and the original version (which played out like a movie with 30+ tracks) was even better

Never heard that shit, you got it?


no bullshit, where'd u get that from.  i never heard of that.  i need that shit asap