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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2009, 10:32:39 PM »
Not only was Round Here a sample which Dre already used, its almost exactly the same as the original instrumental by dido, which was a mainstream hit. If Dre's going to use samples, then he needs to find more obscure sources and put a creative spin on it, not just add drums.
for the second time, Dre didn't produce Stan...

regardless, he still mixed the entire album. I can't give him any producing points on Round Here when its already been done before, especially on a project he was overlooking.
boohoo, so you can only use a sample once in hip hop  :P

You don't seem to quite understand the point I'm making. It didn't take very much skill to make Round Here, even though yes, the instrumental is dope. He took it straight from another song and added some effects. Dr. Dre is a producing legend. Detox is supposed to be a showcase of his producing skills. The song Round Here was not an example of his amazing producing skills. Its something any producer could've done. hell, if he's going to do that then why not just make new songs over the 2001 instrumentals?


What about "California Love"?
These two used the very same sample as well;
Ultramagnetic MC´s; "Funky" from their classic Critical Beatdown (1987)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>
and
EPMD; Knick Knack Patty Wak from Unfinished Business (1989)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


He took it straight from another song and added some effects.


or?


A classic tribute to Cali. But would you call that an amazing work of production? There's a big different between that and the song Still Dre. Compare it to the original sample (which, admittedly, scott storch found, but I'm using it just as an example).



The way they flipped it for Still Dre sounds completely different than the original song. That's what I'm talking about, as far as being creative and coming up with something new.
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2009, 11:08:32 PM »
Not only was Round Here a sample which Dre already used, its almost exactly the same as the original instrumental by dido, which was a mainstream hit. If Dre's going to use samples, then he needs to find more obscure sources and put a creative spin on it, not just add drums.
for the second time, Dre didn't produce Stan...

regardless, he still mixed the entire album. I can't give him any producing points on Round Here when its already been done before, especially on a project he was overlooking.
boohoo, so you can only use a sample once in hip hop  :P

You don't seem to quite understand the point I'm making. It didn't take very much skill to make Round Here, even though yes, the instrumental is dope. He took it straight from another song and added some effects. Dr. Dre is a producing legend. Detox is supposed to be a showcase of his producing skills. The song Round Here was not an example of his amazing producing skills. Its something any producer could've done. hell, if he's going to do that then why not just make new songs over the 2001 instrumentals?


What about "California Love"?
These two used the very same sample as well;
Ultramagnetic MC´s; "Funky" from their classic Critical Beatdown (1987)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>
and
EPMD; Knick Knack Patty Wak from Unfinished Business (1989)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


He took it straight from another song and added some effects.


or?


A classic tribute to Cali.
But would you call that an amazing work of production?
There's a big different between that and the song Still Dre.
Compare it to the original sample (which, admittedly, Scott storch found, but I'm using it just as an example).
Grant Green - Maybe tomorrow
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


The way they flipped it for Still Dre sounds completely different than the original song.
That's what I'm talking about, as far as being creative and coming up with something new.


Creative or not,both "Round here" and "California Love" sounds dope....
I would say he took those samples and took them to a another level (sonically),especially "California Love".


I agree with California Love. While it does sound similar to the EPMD track, the way he remade it was much more clearer and crisper sonically, and all the other effects, the chorus and the entire theme of the song make it perfect.

I've got to disagree on Round Here. While its a nice song and it worked for Snoop, its not deserving to say its Detox worthy.
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2009, 12:50:34 AM »
Not only was Round Here a sample which Dre already used, its almost exactly the same as the original instrumental by dido, which was a mainstream hit. If Dre's going to use samples, then he needs to find more obscure sources and put a creative spin on it, not just add drums.
for the second time, Dre didn't produce Stan...

regardless, he still mixed the entire album. I can't give him any producing points on Round Here when its already been done before, especially on a project he was overlooking.
boohoo, so you can only use a sample once in hip hop  :P

You don't seem to quite understand the point I'm making. It didn't take very much skill to make Round Here, even though yes, the instrumental is dope. He took it straight from another song and added some effects. Dr. Dre is a producing legend. Detox is supposed to be a showcase of his producing skills. The song Round Here was not an example of his amazing producing skills. Its something any producer could've done. hell, if he's going to do that then why not just make new songs over the 2001 instrumentals?
nah, i just think you're bickering over nothing.

he made something totally different of the sample, so no it doesn't take away anything from Dre at all.


really? sounds exactly the same, except for the chorus.
maybe we're not listening to the same songs then

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2009, 02:25:19 PM »
Not only was Round Here a sample which Dre already used, its almost exactly the same as the original instrumental by dido, which was a mainstream hit. If Dre's going to use samples, then he needs to find more obscure sources and put a creative spin on it, not just add drums.
for the second time, Dre didn't produce Stan...

regardless, he still mixed the entire album. I can't give him any producing points on Round Here when its already been done before, especially on a project he was overlooking.
boohoo, so you can only use a sample once in hip hop  :P

You don't seem to quite understand the point I'm making. It didn't take very much skill to make Round Here, even though yes, the instrumental is dope. He took it straight from another song and added some effects. Dr. Dre is a producing legend. Detox is supposed to be a showcase of his producing skills. The song Round Here was not an example of his amazing producing skills. Its something any producer could've done. hell, if he's going to do that then why not just make new songs over the 2001 instrumentals?


What about "California Love"?
These two used the very same sample as well;
Ultramagnetic MC´s; "Funky" from their classic Critical Beatdown (1987)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>
and
EPMD; Knick Knack Patty Wak from Unfinished Business (1989)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


He took it straight from another song and added some effects.


or?


A classic tribute to Cali.
But would you call that an amazing work of production?
There's a big different between that and the song Still Dre.
Compare it to the original sample (which, admittedly, Scott storch found, but I'm using it just as an example).
Grant Green - Maybe tomorrow
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


The way they flipped it for Still Dre sounds completely different than the original song.
That's what I'm talking about, as far as being creative and coming up with something new.


Creative or not,both "Round here" and "California Love" sounds dope....
I would say he took those samples and took them to a another level (sonically),especially "California Love".


I agree with California Love.
While it does sound similar to the EPMD track, the way he remade it was much more clearer and crisper sonically,
and all the other effects, the chorus and the entire theme of the song make it perfect.

I've got to disagree on Round Here. While its a nice song and it worked for Snoop, its not deserving to say its Detox worthy.


Who said its Detox worthy?


This whole thread is about what songs are Detox worthy. That's why we're talking about it.
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2009, 02:30:56 PM »
^^^ Neither of those beats have anything on California love, interesting to hear the original though
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2009, 03:04:44 PM »
Not only was Round Here a sample which Dre already used, its almost exactly the same as the original instrumental by dido, which was a mainstream hit. If Dre's going to use samples, then he needs to find more obscure sources and put a creative spin on it, not just add drums.
for the second time, Dre didn't produce Stan...

regardless, he still mixed the entire album. I can't give him any producing points on Round Here when its already been done before, especially on a project he was overlooking.
boohoo, so you can only use a sample once in hip hop  :P

You don't seem to quite understand the point I'm making. It didn't take very much skill to make Round Here, even though yes, the instrumental is dope. He took it straight from another song and added some effects. Dr. Dre is a producing legend. Detox is supposed to be a showcase of his producing skills. The song Round Here was not an example of his amazing producing skills. Its something any producer could've done. hell, if he's going to do that then why not just make new songs over the 2001 instrumentals?


What about "California Love"?
These two used the very same sample as well;
Ultramagnetic MC´s; "Funky" from their classic Critical Beatdown (1987)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>
and
EPMD; Knick Knack Patty Wak from Unfinished Business (1989)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


He took it straight from another song and added some effects.


or?


A classic tribute to Cali.
But would you call that an amazing work of production?
There's a big different between that and the song Still Dre.
Compare it to the original sample (which, admittedly, Scott storch found, but I'm using it just as an example).
Grant Green - Maybe tomorrow
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


The way they flipped it for Still Dre sounds completely different than the original song.
That's what I'm talking about, as far as being creative and coming up with something new.


Creative or not,both "Round here" and "California Love" sounds dope....
I would say he took those samples and took them to a another level (sonically),especially "California Love".


I agree with California Love.
While it does sound similar to the EPMD track, the way he remade it was much more clearer and crisper sonically,
and all the other effects, the chorus and the entire theme of the song make it perfect.

I've got to disagree on Round Here. While its a nice song and it worked for Snoop, its not deserving to say its Detox worthy.


Who said its Detox worthy?


This whole thread is about what songs are Detox worthy. That's why we're talking about it.


I know it's the topic... but it went off topic at some point right?
Never the less,who ever said that the "Round here" beat is Detox worthy got low standards.
Not that it's bad or anything,but it lacks that extra little something.
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #66 on: November 24, 2009, 12:20:36 PM »
agreed, but it has the right ingredients

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2009, 12:32:09 PM »
I once posted on this board a list of tracks where the beats were initially meant for DETOX but ended up going to other people. Lemme see if I can find that post...
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #68 on: November 24, 2009, 12:40:32 PM »
Not only was Round Here a sample which Dre already used, its almost exactly the same as the original instrumental by dido, which was a mainstream hit. If Dre's going to use samples, then he needs to find more obscure sources and put a creative spin on it, not just add drums.
for the second time, Dre didn't produce Stan...

regardless, he still mixed the entire album. I can't give him any producing points on Round Here when its already been done before, especially on a project he was overlooking.
boohoo, so you can only use a sample once in hip hop  :P

You don't seem to quite understand the point I'm making. It didn't take very much skill to make Round Here, even though yes, the instrumental is dope. He took it straight from another song and added some effects. Dr. Dre is a producing legend. Detox is supposed to be a showcase of his producing skills. The song Round Here was not an example of his amazing producing skills. Its something any producer could've done. hell, if he's going to do that then why not just make new songs over the 2001 instrumentals?


What about "California Love"?
These two used the very same sample as well;
Ultramagnetic MC´s; "Funky" from their classic Critical Beatdown (1987)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/Wq_C01YkmnM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>
and
EPMD; Knick Knack Patty Wak from Unfinished Business (1989)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cDAM_rmXcf0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


He took it straight from another song and added some effects.


or?


A classic tribute to Cali.
But would you call that an amazing work of production?
There's a big different between that and the song Still Dre.
Compare it to the original sample (which, admittedly, Scott storch found, but I'm using it just as an example).
Grant Green - Maybe tomorrow
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/k9oNHowrg4w&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1</a>


The way they flipped it for Still Dre sounds completely different than the original song.
That's what I'm talking about, as far as being creative and coming up with something new.


Creative or not,both "Round here" and "California Love" sounds dope....
I would say he took those samples and took them to a another level (sonically),especially "California Love".


I agree with California Love.
While it does sound similar to the EPMD track, the way he remade it was much more clearer and crisper sonically,
and all the other effects, the chorus and the entire theme of the song make it perfect.

I've got to disagree on Round Here. While its a nice song and it worked for Snoop, its not deserving to say its Detox worthy.


Who said its Detox worthy?


This whole thread is about what songs are Detox worthy. That's why we're talking about it.


I know it's the topic... but it went off topic at some point right?


Not unless you took it there.


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who ever said that the "Round here" beat is Detox worthy got low standards.
agreed.
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #69 on: November 24, 2009, 12:45:27 PM »
I once posted on this board a list of tracks where the beats were initially meant for DETOX but ended up going to other people. Lemme see if I can find that post...

I found it. Here was my request for someone to remix these songs... the beats were made for DETOX, but Dre lost interest and spread them out to others:

Could any of you try doing remixes of Dre vocals with the following instrumentals (leaving the chorus intact)?

1) Get You Some (Busta Rhymes) ----------- If possible, keep Busta's second verse only
2) Outta Control Remix (50 Cent) ------------ If possible, keep 50's verse only, Dre on the second verse and Bishop on the third (remove Mobb Deep)
3) Get Low (Stat Quo) -------------------------- If possible, keep Stat's first verse only
4) Higher (The Game) --------------------------- If possible, keep Game's last verse only
5) OH (Obie Trice) ------------------------------- If possible, put an Xzibit verse first and have a Dre verse on the second verse and an Em verse on the last (remove Obie Trice)
6) Boss's Life (Snoop Dogg feat. Nate Dogg) ------------------- If possible, keep Snoop's second verse
7) No Stoppin' Carson (Bishop Lamont) ------------------------------------ If possible keep Bishop's third verse, replace the first verse with Dre and the second with Em
 Lost Ones ----------------------------------- If possible, keep Jay-Zs first verse, put Dre and Nas for verse 2 and 3

I know this seems like a bit of an undertaking but it'll be fun. These beats were all once upon a time intended for DETOX but were quickly passed on to other artists. I'm curious to hear what they would sound like if Dre kept them for DETOX at the time.

Props for anyone that can do it and post it.

Thanks
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #70 on: November 24, 2009, 12:57:55 PM »
I once posted on this board a list of tracks where the beats were initially meant for DETOX but ended up going to other people. Lemme see if I can find that post...

I found it. Here was my request for someone to remix these songs... the beats were made for DETOX, but Dre lost interest and spread them out to others:

Could any of you try doing remixes of Dre vocals with the following instrumentals (leaving the chorus intact)?

1) Get You Some (Busta Rhymes) ----------- If possible, keep Busta's second verse only
2) Outta Control Remix (50 Cent) ------------ If possible, keep 50's verse only, Dre on the second verse and Bishop on the third (remove Mobb Deep)
3) Get Low (Stat Quo) -------------------------- If possible, keep Stat's first verse only
4) Higher (The Game) --------------------------- If possible, keep Game's last verse only
5) OH (Obie Trice) ------------------------------- If possible, put an Xzibit verse first and have a Dre verse on the second verse and an Em verse on the last (remove Obie Trice)
6) Boss's Life (Snoop Dogg feat. Nate Dogg) ------------------- If possible, keep Snoop's second verse
7) No Stoppin' Carson (Bishop Lamont) ------------------------------------ If possible keep Bishop's third verse, replace the first verse with Dre and the second with Em
 Lost Ones ----------------------------------- If possible, keep Jay-Zs first verse, put Dre and Nas for verse 2 and 3

I know this seems like a bit of an undertaking but it'll be fun. These beats were all once upon a time intended for DETOX but were quickly passed on to other artists. I'm curious to hear what they would sound like if Dre kept them for DETOX at the time.

Props for anyone that can do it and post it.

Thanks
"I Made It" (Jay-Z) was meant for Detox (well, for Dre, to be more accurate).
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2009, 01:18:14 PM »
I once posted on this board a list of tracks where the beats were initially meant for DETOX but ended up going to other people. Lemme see if I can find that post...

I found it. Here was my request for someone to remix these songs... the beats were made for DETOX, but Dre lost interest and spread them out to others:

Could any of you try doing remixes of Dre vocals with the following instrumentals (leaving the chorus intact)?

1) Get You Some (Busta Rhymes) ----------- If possible, keep Busta's second verse only
2) Outta Control Remix (50 Cent) ------------ If possible, keep 50's verse only, Dre on the second verse and Bishop on the third (remove Mobb Deep)
3) Get Low (Stat Quo) -------------------------- If possible, keep Stat's first verse only
4) Higher (The Game) --------------------------- If possible, keep Game's last verse only
5) OH (Obie Trice) ------------------------------- If possible, put an Xzibit verse first and have a Dre verse on the second verse and an Em verse on the last (remove Obie Trice)
6) Boss's Life (Snoop Dogg feat. Nate Dogg) ------------------- If possible, keep Snoop's second verse
7) No Stoppin' Carson (Bishop Lamont) ------------------------------------ If possible keep Bishop's third verse, replace the first verse with Dre and the second with Em
 Lost Ones ----------------------------------- If possible, keep Jay-Zs first verse, put Dre and Nas for verse 2 and 3

I know this seems like a bit of an undertaking but it'll be fun. These beats were all once upon a time intended for DETOX but were quickly passed on to other artists. I'm curious to hear what they would sound like if Dre kept them for DETOX at the time.

Props for anyone that can do it and post it.

Thanks
"I Made It" (Jay-Z) was meant for Detox (well, for Dre, to be more accurate).

Yeah... this list isn't all of 'em. "Grow Up" by Bishop as well. I'm sure I'm missing a few... oh yeah... "30 Something" by Jay.

Speaking of "Grow Up"... can somebody also do a Remix of that with Dre and Bishop? haha...

Yo Octo, you got my PM?
 

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Re: Matty's Detox Standard DRE Cuts (Max Quality)
« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »
I once posted on this board a list of tracks where the beats were initially meant for DETOX but ended up going to other people. Lemme see if I can find that post...

I found it. Here was my request for someone to remix these songs... the beats were made for DETOX, but Dre lost interest and spread them out to others:

Could any of you try doing remixes of Dre vocals with the following instrumentals (leaving the chorus intact)?

1) Get You Some (Busta Rhymes) ----------- If possible, keep Busta's second verse only
2) Outta Control Remix (50 Cent) ------------ If possible, keep 50's verse only, Dre on the second verse and Bishop on the third (remove Mobb Deep)
3) Get Low (Stat Quo) -------------------------- If possible, keep Stat's first verse only
4) Higher (The Game) --------------------------- If possible, keep Game's last verse only
5) OH (Obie Trice) ------------------------------- If possible, put an Xzibit verse first and have a Dre verse on the second verse and an Em verse on the last (remove Obie Trice)
6) Boss's Life (Snoop Dogg feat. Nate Dogg) ------------------- If possible, keep Snoop's second verse
7) No Stoppin' Carson (Bishop Lamont) ------------------------------------ If possible keep Bishop's third verse, replace the first verse with Dre and the second with Em
 Lost Ones ----------------------------------- If possible, keep Jay-Zs first verse, put Dre and Nas for verse 2 and 3

I know this seems like a bit of an undertaking but it'll be fun. These beats were all once upon a time intended for DETOX but were quickly passed on to other artists. I'm curious to hear what they would sound like if Dre kept them for DETOX at the time.

Props for anyone that can do it and post it.

Thanks
"I Made It" (Jay-Z) was meant for Detox (well, for Dre, to be more accurate).

So Khalil's had quite a hand with Detox then. I'm surprised we're yet to hear a collabo from the two get released officially