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maybe they should just focus on making good music and building a fan base that way instead of wanting to get radio play.
Quote from: Wykid "1NER" on November 30, 2009, 03:04:03 PMmaybe they should just focus on making good music and building a fan base that way instead of wanting to get radio play. they could be dropping classics and these stations like power 106 STILL won't play them, how then are they supposed to eat?
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Quote from: Long Beach Iz Active on November 30, 2009, 04:01:42 PMQuote from: Wykid "1NER" on November 30, 2009, 03:04:03 PMmaybe they should just focus on making good music and building a fan base that way instead of wanting to get radio play. they could be dropping classics and these stations like power 106 STILL won't play them, how then are they supposed to eat?if their shit is hot like that, then they will have no problem filling up a club. and thats where a rapper/singer/performer makes their money. and thats how they eat.word of mouth is the best promotion. look at tech nine, ive NEVER heard one of his songs on the rado but he sells hundreds of thousands of albums and is the headliner on 99.999% of tours.
Quote from: Enigma on November 30, 2009, 01:52:51 PMintelligent hip-hop/club songs is the presenthow can u put intelligent and club song in the same sentence muhahahahahahahaha
intelligent hip-hop/club songs is the present
Quote from: Wykid "1NER" on November 30, 2009, 04:06:25 PMQuote from: Long Beach Iz Active on November 30, 2009, 04:01:42 PMQuote from: Wykid "1NER" on November 30, 2009, 03:04:03 PMmaybe they should just focus on making good music and building a fan base that way instead of wanting to get radio play. they could be dropping classics and these stations like power 106 STILL won't play them, how then are they supposed to eat?if their shit is hot like that, then they will have no problem filling up a club. and thats where a rapper/singer/performer makes their money. and thats how they eat.word of mouth is the best promotion. look at tech nine, ive NEVER heard one of his songs on the rado but he sells hundreds of thousands of albums and is the headliner on 99.999% of tours. so it's cool that there is no west music being played in the west radios?
Quote from: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on November 30, 2009, 02:15:04 PMQuote from: Enigma on November 30, 2009, 01:52:51 PMintelligent hip-hop/club songs is the presenthow can u put intelligent and club song in the same sentence muhahahahahahahahaYou're missing my point. Those are the 2 types of hip hop that sell and appeal at the moment. Either you go for the club bangers (Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, half the south) or that intelligent/intellectual route (Lupe Fiasco, Kanye sometimes, Wale, Drake, Kid Cudi, etc). I'm not saying they are one in the same or even similar, because obviously they are not even close to being the same type of hip hop. They are however much different than a style of hip hop, and that is the 90's Death Row/Gangsta/NWA sound that the West Coast can't evolve or get away from.Does that make more sense?
While I tend to agree with you guys in a way, I can't help but notice the content difference in West rap and East/South rap.Point blank, rappers from the South know how to make a catchy song. They limit their talk about guns and violence, and thus they pop on the radio. Even Gucci Mane limits this talk when he has radio hits. If there's a serious question as to why Drake gets played as opposed to Glasses, the answer is easy. Drake is fresh, something completely different, appeals to the women, and knows how to make a song. Glasses Malone doesn't really have any of those qualities - infact, both him and Nipsey Hussle (while I really dig Nipsey) are nothing more than throwback rappers from the 90's/Death Row era.I know this is where they come from so they feel the need to rap a certain way and about certain things, but if it isn't working it's time to switch it up and try something else. While Game doesn't quite do this, he's had the blessing of having Dre beats, as well as reaching out to the East/South and has made friends and songs with most big artists from both sections of the map. Speaking of Game, he actually made some sense in his newest DubCNN interview when talking about his BWS artists and when he's going to start pushing them. He's right, labels don't quite create buzz anymore, buzz comes on its own. Drake being on Cash Money did NOT create his buzz, his buzz came on its own from his music and the message he was putting out. He just became a Cash Money artist what, 2-3 months ago? He's been huge this whole year. Roccett seems to have his head on straight in terms of trying different approaches to songs and style than the rest of the New West, but even he gets stuck rapping old NWA/Death Row style lyrics. Take a group like 2nd II None. Based on their track record, they have the same gangsta lifestyle and upbringing as any West Coast gangsta rapper claims to have, but they took a different approach, and as a result had videos on TV, radio, and were able to reach a vast appeal from all sections of the country. Same goes for DJ Quik.These West rappers need to look in the mirror and try something different. Gangsta rap is dead/dying. Whether you like to admit it, intelligent hip-hop/club songs is the present, and until the West comes up to that standard, we're gonna be having these same conversations for the next 10 years.
Quote from: Enigma on November 30, 2009, 09:12:31 PMQuote from: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on November 30, 2009, 02:15:04 PMQuote from: Enigma on November 30, 2009, 01:52:51 PMintelligent hip-hop/club songs is the presenthow can u put intelligent and club song in the same sentence muhahahahahahahahaYou're missing my point. Those are the 2 types of hip hop that sell and appeal at the moment. Either you go for the club bangers (Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, half the south) or that intelligent/intellectual route (Lupe Fiasco, Kanye sometimes, Wale, Drake, Kid Cudi, etc). I'm not saying they are one in the same or even similar, because obviously they are not even close to being the same type of hip hop. They are however much different than a style of hip hop, and that is the 90's Death Row/Gangsta/NWA sound that the West Coast can't evolve or get away from.Does that make more sense?Intelligent rap doesn't sell either. Those ones you listed are the very small exception. There's like a billion intelligent rappers who get zero attention.
Quote from: rapsodie, the troll prince on December 01, 2009, 12:57:51 AMQuote from: Enigma on November 30, 2009, 09:12:31 PMQuote from: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on November 30, 2009, 02:15:04 PMQuote from: Enigma on November 30, 2009, 01:52:51 PMintelligent hip-hop/club songs is the presenthow can u put intelligent and club song in the same sentence muhahahahahahahahaYou're missing my point. Those are the 2 types of hip hop that sell and appeal at the moment. Either you go for the club bangers (Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, half the south) or that intelligent/intellectual route (Lupe Fiasco, Kanye sometimes, Wale, Drake, Kid Cudi, etc). I'm not saying they are one in the same or even similar, because obviously they are not even close to being the same type of hip hop. They are however much different than a style of hip hop, and that is the 90's Death Row/Gangsta/NWA sound that the West Coast can't evolve or get away from.Does that make more sense?Intelligent rap doesn't sell either. Those ones you listed are the very small exception. There's like a billion intelligent rappers who get zero attention.It's growing at a much faster rate than it was before. Mos/Talib/that whole Rawkus family used to be a novelty in hip hop. That's slowly not becoming the case anymore. 5 years ago Mos couldn't buy a song that would get radio play. Today the list is growing of artists taking up that same style, except now they get radio play and jump on the biggest tours in the nation. Also keep in mind, all those intelligent rappers I named are co-signed by the biggest in the game, that being Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, and Kanye. It should be a sign for artists but they're not taking it in that manner, which boggles my mind.
Gangsta rap is dead/dying.