It's amazing how many times the Outlawz tried to ruin classic 2pac joints

[V2DHeart]

Nothing, he is still featuring on a lot of albums, Yukmouth, B-Legit, Dru Down etc. I had a feeling that after his Greatest Hits, that nothing much more would come from him in terms of full length albums, and he hasn't really done much since then. Hope he drops some of his unreleased material from the late 90's

[K.Dub]

See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.

On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.

Good post.

[R1ZE]

Nothing, he is still featuring on a lot of albums, Yukmouth, B-Legit, Dru Down etc. I had a feeling that after his Greatest Hits, that nothing much more would come from him in terms of full length albums, and he hasn't really done much since then. Hope he drops some of his unreleased material from the late 90's

him and shock g would make a great duo

[M Dogg™]

See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.

On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.

Good post.

You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.

[D-Nice]

See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.

On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.

Good post.

You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.

2 for 2. +1 homie.

[Fuck Your Existence]

i co-sign this powerful thread

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

See, what's messed up is the Outlawz were the shit. Up until now, no one said shit. Hell, 5 years ago this tread doesn't exist, or if it did then people would laugh them out the board.

On the real, the 'Law were tight as fuck, but that's because Kadafi and Fatal were beast, and EDI had some 2Pac ghost writtens. Big Syke was nice, I have no idea what people are on, in the Mid-90's, his style of rap was considered dope, same with Napolean's and Kastro's style. The only thing that's changed is now we see that music 13-15 years later, and now we are like, damn, those dudes sucked. But by 1994-1996 standards, they are tight as fuck and ain't no one fuckin' wit' 'em. Their styles were highly dated, as they sound 90's as fuck, and in 2009, that's not what you want. But honestly, Still I Rise is the best post death 2Pac release, and the 'Lawz came correct. Right now, everyone's bitching at the 'Lawz, realizing damn those dudes had no business on a 'Pac track. That's true except Fatal and Kadafi. But at the end of the day, they still were good rappers in 94-96, and in 1996, people thought them dudes was tight. But then again, listen to some 90's shit and see how wack some people really were.

Good post.

You know what's funny, since I am older, and I remember The Outlawz, I remember people were on their jock (I went 90's) and no one would disrespect them, just like Mack 10, Spice 1, Yukmouth, Too $hort and many others. Listen to these guys again, and listen to their styles. In 2009, they'd suck. As much as people say Hip-Hop is dead now, people wouldn't like that old school shit either. People right now have no idea what they want. They don't buy Slaughterhouse, they think Kanye is gay, they think The Outlawz are wack, and 2Pac is the GOAT, until they hear What'z Ya Phone #. The Outlawz were the shit in 1996, in 1996 their style was relevent. In 2009, the style is played out, it ain't fresh and people say it's wack.

Whats Ya Phone Number was never dope, period. Not in the 90s and not in the 00s. I still bump All Eyez on Me occasionally in 2009, so no it doesn't suck.

If Pac was alive today and rapping over techno beats, I wouldn't check for his shit either.

The Outlawz were never the shit. Maybe you thought they were back then, but to me they've always been filler. A classic Pac track is still a classic Pac track regardless of whether there's an Outlaw rapping over it. Did anyone give a shit about the songs they did without Pac? I certainly didn't. There's your answer.

[V2DHeart]

I'll still stick by my opinion. I must be one of a few who thought the Outlaw features were good in 96. I didn't mind them being on 2Pac tracks, but they were wack 5 years ago, and they're wack today. It has nothing to do with their style from the 90's because the Outlawz simply aren't the same Outlawz from the 90's. Anyone with ears can hear that.

They went from raw lyrics and verses, to watered down one-syllable "High, sky, bye, die" BS lines and verses. Anyone who is trying to claim their delivery on the mic is the same as it was in 94-96 really need to listen to some of their newer material


Here's more or less the exact same statement in content with another rapper:
Maybe the reason Snoop Dogg records sell less these days is because his 93 style is not relevant today??

[R1ZE]

It has nothing to do with "they style bein played out"... they were just never good to begin with. everyone here is stuck in the 90s anyway - we dig that shit for a reason. but the outlaws just dont cut it

[M Dogg™]

I'm not saying the current Outlawz are not wack. Just like every other rapper, with age goes skills. Hip-Hop is a young persons game, and the older you get the worst your flow gets, the more watered down your lyrics get. Compare Kurupt, or Snoop, or any other rapper over the years. If you talk about the Outlawz from today, yeah they wack, but no more wack than any other artist from the 90's and 80's, even the early 2000's.

Now as for their style in 1996, how can you claim they were wack when dudes came out hard as fuck.

how is Kadafi wack here
[Verse Four: Khadafi]
I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occurs
No points in common, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Lil' Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees, coppin pleas you Degenario
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil' Jr. Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And your box top spots get mopped and dropped
and all your fake-ass East coast props brainstormed and locked

[2euce 7even]

only one who sounds like idiot is you & your hating. grow up with ignorant bullcrap. 2pac never got down with anybody who did not think highley of . so yo uare wrong as normal . i fellowed 2pac since digital underground & never stopped. 2pac would not have big syke in both thug life & outlawz if he did not think he was good enough to rap. what proof do you have 2pac ghostwriiten for the outlawz because i think it bullcrap what you are saying. 2pac thought the outlawz were good enough to drop solo albums . 2pac was going to have slol albums by the outlawz on his label . also anything  2pac said is 100% correct over what you say. so please save you bullcrap .you showed you don't knoiw shit about 2pac at all. you are one of those bandwagoon 2pac fans from the mid 90's .

If you're going to try and respond, and call someone an idiot, at least have the basic preschooler intellect to get your spelling and grammar correct first!!!  

I never said Big Syke was wack, nor Kadafi, Fatal or Storm, so quite trying to speculate and compel an image of what I said from one word. Since you clearly have trouble reading as well as spelling, let me write it slowly for you with easy-to-understand words...

The.... Outlawz.......... as in..... EDI..... Young Noble...... Kastro,,, and Napoleon.... You with me so far yeh? "THOSE" Outlawz... Those ones Suck!!! Those ones, not Syke..... Not Kadafi..... Not Fatal..... Not Storm..... You got me?? The ones from current time. You understand? Probably not, but let's continue anyway - You claim to be some big 2Pac fan from his Digital Underground days (Yeh sure, that's what all defensive morons say) yet don't know that 2Pac ghostwrote for the Outlawz whilst on Death Row? LOL, big 2Pac fan you must be  ... Sounds like you're the d!ckriding changes fan to me son. 2Pac didn't have any plans for the Outlawz to drop solo albums on Makaveli Records lol. You'd be surprised to what his plans were for the Outlawz, but yeh Nice try rookie!!!

I'm not an Outlawz hater. I just think they suck now, because quite frankly their lyrical ability is weak, and their selection of beats these days is horrible. Any Outlaw who did have the talent to go it alone either did, or quit rappin', and we were left with the weaker out the bunch. The ones people couldn't really give a shyt about. Don't believe me??? Then create a poll, or look at 99% of other polls on the net which ask someone of their favourite Outlaw, and guaranteed it'll either be between Fatal or Kadafi, followed by Syke being 3rd place, and none of those people are even in the group anymore

also anything  2pac said is 100% correct over what you say

LOL, please quit saying that, it really makes you look like a d!ck riding werido who sounds like a 10 year old who would probably come out with "I know you are, but what am I" replys

agreed.

[V2DHeart]

I'm not saying the current Outlawz are not wack. Just like every other rapper, with age goes skills. Hip-Hop is a young persons game, and the older you get the worst your flow gets, the more watered down your lyrics get. Compare Kurupt, or Snoop, or any other rapper over the years. If you talk about the Outlawz from today, yeah they wack, but no more wack than any other artist from the 90's and 80's, even the early 2000's.

Now as for their style in 1996, how can you claim they were wack when dudes came out hard as fuck.

how is Kadafi wack here
[Verse Four: Khadafi]
I'm from N-E-W Jerz, where plenty murders occurs
No points in common, we bringin drama to all you herbs
Knuckle check the scenario, Lil' Cease
I bring you fake G's to your knees, coppin pleas you Degenario
Lil Kim, is you coked up, or doped up?
Get ya lil' Jr. Whopper click smoked up, what the fuck
is you STUPID?! I take money, crash and mash through Brooklyn
with my click lootin, shootin and pollutin ya block
with 15 shots cock glock to your knot
Outlaw mafia click movin up another notch
And your box top spots get mopped and dropped
and all your fake-ass East coast props brainstormed and locked

I thought Kadafi was very talented. He actually wrote all of his own lyrics, and was gifted enough to put that alternative edge on a track next to 2Pac's. Who Do U Believe In for example. People say Outlawz died when 2Pac died, but they died when Kadafi did IMO

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Here's more or less the exact same statement in content with another rapper:
Maybe the reason Snoop Dogg records sell less these days is because his 93 style is not relevant today??

Snoop has always had the same type of lyrics, in the 90s and today. The song choices are the reason he has fallen off.

[V2DHeart]

Agreed, his lyrics contain the same elements to what his 90's tracks did, but his flow and delivery technique have changed since then

[Jeremy812]

I think they were tight with pac and a few years after. Syke has always been tight imo.