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jeromechickenbone

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100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« on: December 12, 2009, 10:30:05 AM »
These fucks in the US media are only talking about Tiger Woods apparently.  Are yall up on this?
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 11:05:52 AM »
he's taking an 'indefinite' break from golfing.

climate-gate? didn't hear about it in the news, can't be very important :sombrero:

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 01:59:01 PM »
he's taking an 'indefinite' break from golfing.

climate-gate? didn't hear about it in the news, can't be very important :sombrero:
LOL ;D

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 04:11:09 AM »
You do realize that the protesters are demanding that the heads of state meeting in Copenhagen commit their countries to binding treaties to cut and cap greenhouse gas emissions?


They are not protesting that global warming is false or that it isn't man-made.  :)



They are actually protesting for the Copenhagen conference to be successful and demanding that the proposed caps be higher than what has officially been proposed.


http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/europe/12dec09-copenhagen-protests-79121382.html
 
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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 04:17:22 AM »
I was just about to add that, yeah basically these are 100,000 protestors who are the most hardcore of the lot, who as my aussie friend said, want things to be even more draconian, they are right out of the communist playback, the most hardcore of zealots, these are the type of people who would kill in the name of environmentalism lol. That really is your ironic good cop bad cop, the politicians will be be disagreeing with the protestors and making themselves look like moderates.
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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 06:45:16 AM »
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 09:04:28 AM »
900 people arrested last night.. Danish police just arrested anybody "who looked suspicious", lol.  :D
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 10:32:50 AM »
You do realize that the protesters are demanding that the heads of state meeting in Copenhagen commit their countries to binding treaties to cut and cap greenhouse gas emissions?


They are not protesting that global warming is false or that it isn't man-made.  :)



They are actually protesting for the Copenhagen conference to be successful and demanding that the proposed caps be higher than what has officially been proposed.


http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/europe/12dec09-copenhagen-protests-79121382.html
 

Sure, but there are many people that are protesting because the science reported was proven fraudulent.

Al Gore is shitting his pants, he gets harassed everywhere he goes since climategate came out.
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 10:05:15 PM »
the funniest thing about the whole climategate is the whole lack of media reporting on it, as they have been heavily complicit in selling the lies to people.

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 01:37:10 AM »

You do realize that the protesters are demanding that the heads of state meeting in Copenhagen commit their countries to binding treaties to cut and cap greenhouse gas emissions?


They are not protesting that global warming is false or that it isn't man-made.  :)



They are actually protesting for the Copenhagen conference to be successful and demanding that the proposed caps be higher than what has officially been proposed.


http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/europe/12dec09-copenhagen-protests-79121382.html
 

Sure, but there are many people that are protesting because the science reported was proven fraudulent.

Al Gore is shitting his pants, he gets harassed everywhere he goes since climategate came out.


Probably, although the reason you made this thread was to highlight the protests in Copenhagen and the supposed media blackout on them....

The majority of the world wants an international binding treaty on greenhouse gases, this week theres been protests all around the world in favor. The masses have spoken, maybe on what they do not entirely know or understand, but they have still spoken.
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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 03:30:32 AM »
If climate change is a hoax, the world's nations seem to believe it. Otherwise why would nations deliberately handicap their own industry and economies?
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 03:35:01 AM »
900 people arrested last night.. Danish police just arrested anybody "who looked suspicious", lol.  :D

Awesome. Fuck those protesters.

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 09:24:46 AM »

Christopher Monckton illustrates in this interview how this whole cause is being led on faith

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KvufOvneJMk&amp;feature=player_embedded" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/KvufOvneJMk&amp;feature=player_embedded</a>
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2009, 06:22:02 PM »
They can debate all they want about global warming, but there is no denying that environmental issues on the local level have fucked up local economies. 
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 04:05:21 AM »
Wether protesters are right or wrong, it's all about the freedom of demonstration. Denmark made new security laws only for this single event. The main problem to me is that step by step rights are taken from us.
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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 11:33:37 AM »

You do realize that the protesters are demanding that the heads of state meeting in Copenhagen commit their countries to binding treaties to cut and cap greenhouse gas emissions?


They are not protesting that global warming is false or that it isn't man-made.  :)



They are actually protesting for the Copenhagen conference to be successful and demanding that the proposed caps be higher than what has officially been proposed.


http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/europe/12dec09-copenhagen-protests-79121382.html
 

Sure, but there are many people that are protesting because the science reported was proven fraudulent.

Al Gore is shitting his pants, he gets harassed everywhere he goes since climategate came out.


Probably, although the reason you made this thread was to highlight the protests in Copenhagen and the supposed media blackout on them....

The majority of the world wants an international binding treaty on greenhouse gases, this week theres been protests all around the world in favor. The masses have spoken, maybe on what they do not entirely know or understand, but they have still spoken.

lol, how do you know what my reasoning was?  I just had no idea about it and made a joke that all i was seeing was with Tiger Woods.

They have spoken so loudly that things have been postponed, lol.
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 11:37:51 AM »
If climate change is a hoax, the world's nations seem to believe it. Otherwise why would nations deliberately handicap their own industry and economies?

Uh, have you read how developing nations are opposing it?

Who said climate change was a hoax?  What I've said on the subject is that CRU has been proven to have lied, skewed, and all out falsified information which is proven through thousands of hacked emails.

 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 12:28:55 PM »

Supposing everyone was in full support of this global warming phenomenon which truly was the worst the world had ever seen, that all of the work of the scientists had the utmost integrity, that there were no flaws, that all of the maths added up, what you have through the UN treaty is a global goverance agreement which will monitor and regulate every facet of the economy. So when you look at what their stated long term goals are, the only possible way this comes about is by destroying the economy of the west.
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 08:03:41 PM »
If climate change is a hoax, the world's nations seem to believe it. Otherwise why would nations deliberately handicap their own industry and economies?

Uh, have you read how developing nations are opposing it?

Who said climate change was a hoax?  What I've said on the subject is that CRU has been proven to have lied, skewed, and all out falsified information which is proven through thousands of hacked emails.




Uh, what do you mean by 'it'? They are opposing what?
The underdeveloped nations are not opposing an international treaty on emissions caps on the basis that the science is false, they are currently failing to reach an agreement because they want lower caps than the developed nations like with Kyoto, they want a continuation of Kyoto, rather than a new treaty cap system the same for all countries, because they feel developed countries owe them that.




Supposing everyone was in full support of this global warming phenomenon which truly was the worst the world had ever seen, that all of the work of the scientists had the utmost integrity, that there were no flaws, that all of the maths added up, what you have through the UN treaty is a global governance agreement which will monitor and regulate every facet of the economy. So when you look at what their stated long term goals are, the only possible way this comes about is by destroying the economy of the west.


Yeah but global governance will never be as air-tight or as straight forward as you portray, it is ever emerging but it is shakey and often than not gives way to state-centric desires. Just about all international treaties have a body established to monitor its implementation, but for example the IAEA can be duped and ignored just as we have seen with Iraq and the non-existent WMDs, it will be the same with this international treaty if it ever materializes, there will be loop-holes and state-centric desires to undermine it.  

I liked the movie Quantum of Solace because, IMO, it rightly portrayed a fragmented state-centric international order of the future fighting over dwindling resources. In comparison a co-operative order of global governance based on (in the great words of Bush Snr) 'the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle' is sadly just an ideal.


The aim isn't to destroy the West's economy with emissions caps, although yes it will slow it down: the aim is to change industry not destroy it. Maybe it is for the oligarchs in your lucid nightmares but I am not those men,I am Saladin.

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 11:07:20 PM »
I just will say this, to deny global warming is to say the world is flat, and to think we as humans can't at least help in slowing down global warming, is to be just retarded. The End.
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 11:15:28 PM »
I just will say this, to deny global warming is to say the world is flat, and to think we as humans can't at least help in slowing down global warming, is to be just retarded. The End.


That's ironic, because when the world thought the world was flat, the world was a lot warmer than it is now.
 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 12:53:50 AM »
I just will say this, to deny global warming is to say the world is flat, and to think we as humans can't at least help in slowing down global warming, is to be just retarded. The End.

dude, you get your political ideals from CNN, you're in over your head here.

Why don't you research about how EVERY other planet in our solar system is undergoing drastic changes.  Yes, stupid humans are indeed hurting the environment, but aren't the sole cause behind what you are seeing.

 

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2009, 01:08:45 AM »
i think it's fair to assume that as a race we aren't living in harmony with the planet, natural resources, etc.

but its a completely other thing to believe that the specific line peddled to us about just one issue (supposed global warming) which in turn will generate a whole load of new regulation and government income, would be anything other that fradulent. those e-mails are pretty decent evidence that a big scientific 'conspiracy' is not only feasible, it's actually been going on, much to the dismay of the establishment and conventional thinking peeps.
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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2009, 03:48:47 AM »
its hardly surprising though, 'conspiracy' theorists and 'fringe' elements have been saying that is definitely the case for a while now. and just anyone that could see through the flimsy story being put forth by the media.

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Re: 100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2009, 04:53:53 AM »
Whether climate change is man-made or not was never the issue because Earth reaches a cycle about this point, the point is that the effects of climate change may be more severe this time around because of the effects that human-industry has had on the planet.


Regardless of this the damage may already be done and climate change irreversible or unstoppable anyway, as I personally believe it is. However, the real issue for me has always been ENERGY. So far I've supported the mainstream political hype because ultimately the aim is to change how we use energy and how  we get it so as to remain viable on this planet, anything else is simply a selling point.  




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