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Re: Ann Coulter does it again
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2010, 09:06:34 AM »
Well let's keep it going with that logic, then Ann Coulter should be against the Death Penalty. Like I said, this is just a middle school argument. 
 

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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2010, 11:19:15 AM »
Well let's keep it going with that logic, then Ann Coulter should be against the Death Penalty. Like I said, this is just a middle school argument. 


You don't get her humour though. Her entire rant is about one thing; "pro life" democrats voting for publicly funded abortions. He paraphrases them saying "I want full moral credit for personally opposing abortion, I just don't want to impose my moral values on others. Well if that is a legitimate standard for killing babies then it is a legitimate standard for killing abortionists. And if it isn't then you better reconsider your position."  The whole thing was a response to the pro-life democrat, not to the pro-choice movement. She even breaks character a bit by mistake when she says "tax payers who think this is murder" then she stops her self and goes right back into character. She does attack the pro-choice crowd outright to and attacks the logic of "if you don't like abortion then don't have one" and that is where the quote of the 203rd trimester applies. The idea that trivializing a pro-lifers stance by making the idea only about personal choice is being attacked. If one believes that it is a full life being killed then it is as important as murder.

Right here in Canada you could stick a knife in a 9 month pregnant woman's womb, kill the fetus, and get no possibility of a murder charge. I don't know what it's like where you live but I really am disgusted by the laws up here, that if you asked the people would be voted against by 90%. Democracy you say? I don't think so.

I gained a new respect for her after this interview. I always thought she was a bit much and still do but I better understand what she's doing. It's not as simple as the way you make it seem. I think you just disagree with her stance and choose to see what you want.
 

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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2010, 11:59:17 AM »
A rant based on a lie too.  The bill that was signed by law wasn't going to publicly fund abortions, and just to even make sure Obama has to sign another law to make sure.  It's another straight up lie to get people fired up.  And that's the problem right there.  She's firing up the wrong conservatives, the ones that make conservatives look bad.  The ones that throw dollar bills at people with Parkinson's.  The ones that think this health care bill is going to cause armageddon. The ones that don't need to be convinced of being a Republican/Conservative/etc.   
 

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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2010, 12:14:25 PM »
A rant based on a lie too.  The bill that was signed by law wasn't going to publicly fund abortions, and just to even make sure Obama has to sign another law to make sure.  It's another straight up lie to get people fired up.  And that's the problem right there.  She's firing up the wrong conservatives, the ones that make conservatives look bad.  The ones that throw dollar bills at people with Parkinson's.  The ones that think this health care bill is going to cause armageddon. The ones that don't need to be convinced of being a Republican/Conservative/etc.   


Who is she firing up on a Canadian TV show? We have those policies here. It's a fact that women who wanted late term abortions and had Canadian doctors refuse all across the country were sent through tax payer money to the US to have an abortionist perform it. Our abortion laws make your laws look like Pat Robertson wrote them.

Even if it's a lie, the logic is still the same, and it's not 8th grade stuff. Take that debate into an 8th grade class and see what the kids think of it. You're trivializing it because it goes against your stance.

My stance isn't one or the other. I never said a woman should be forced to take the pregnancy to term. I'd never vote Republican or Democrat if I could in the US.

I get it. You think Obama is going to save America by making the government take care of everyone. Do me a favour though. Write a letter to your great grand children who will grow up in an America that serves as a service state for the Chinese Empire. Because that's where we're all headed the day the Chinese say "pay up". The Health Care reform is just another added piece to the whole thing. It's not ruining anything by itself. It's just another step in the wrong direction. It's simple math that you learn a lot earlier than grade 8 and it stays true a long time after grade 8; when you don't have the money to pay for what you already have don't borrow more money to buy more things you can't pay for.
 

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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2010, 12:28:17 PM »
A rant based on a lie too.  The bill that was signed by law wasn't going to publicly fund abortions, and just to even make sure Obama has to sign another law to make sure.  It's another straight up lie to get people fired up.  And that's the problem right there.  She's firing up the wrong conservatives, the ones that make conservatives look bad.  The ones that throw dollar bills at people with Parkinson's.  The ones that think this health care bill is going to cause armageddon. The ones that don't need to be convinced of being a Republican/Conservative/etc.   


Who is she firing up on a Canadian TV show? We have those policies here. It's a fact that women who wanted late term abortions and had Canadian doctors refuse all across the country were sent through tax payer money to the US to have an abortionist perform it. Our abortion laws make your laws look like Pat Robertson wrote them.

Even if it's a lie, the logic is still the same, and it's not 8th grade stuff. Take that debate into an 8th grade class and see what the kids think of it. You're trivializing it because it goes against your stance.

My stance isn't one or the other. I never said a woman should be forced to take the pregnancy to term. I'd never vote Republican or Democrat if I could in the US.

I get it. You think Obama is going to save America by making the government take care of everyone. Do me a favour though. Write a letter to your great grand children who will grow up in an America that serves as a service state for the Chinese Empire. Because that's where we're all headed the day the Chinese say "pay up". The Health Care reform is just another added piece to the whole thing. It's not ruining anything by itself. It's just another step in the wrong direction. It's simple math that you learn a lot earlier than grade 8 and it stays true a long time after grade 8; when you don't have the money to pay for what you already have don't borrow more money to buy more things you can't pay for.

You don't even know my stance on abortion, I haven't even mentioned it here.  And it doesn't matter where she's at, that's her shtick to rile up conservatives that are already convinced by completely dissing the other side.  Same reason why I find Maher annoying, Bill Maher being completely against religion and he just calls religious people idiots basically. For one thing, the new law isn't forcing the people to be taken care by the Government. If you truly feel Obama is that far left, then soon we'll expect the military budget to start receiving huge budget cuts so tax payer's money will start being spread to better causes. But I doubt conservatives want that to happen.  And honestly, the way the government is being managed when my grand children are running around will be the least of my worries because there are far worse things happening by that time. 
 

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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2010, 12:45:39 PM »
A rant based on a lie too.  The bill that was signed by law wasn't going to publicly fund abortions, and just to even make sure Obama has to sign another law to make sure.  It's another straight up lie to get people fired up.  And that's the problem right there.  She's firing up the wrong conservatives, the ones that make conservatives look bad.  The ones that throw dollar bills at people with Parkinson's.  The ones that think this health care bill is going to cause armageddon. The ones that don't need to be convinced of being a Republican/Conservative/etc.   


Who is she firing up on a Canadian TV show? We have those policies here. It's a fact that women who wanted late term abortions and had Canadian doctors refuse all across the country were sent through tax payer money to the US to have an abortionist perform it. Our abortion laws make your laws look like Pat Robertson wrote them.

Even if it's a lie, the logic is still the same, and it's not 8th grade stuff. Take that debate into an 8th grade class and see what the kids think of it. You're trivializing it because it goes against your stance.

My stance isn't one or the other. I never said a woman should be forced to take the pregnancy to term. I'd never vote Republican or Democrat if I could in the US.

I get it. You think Obama is going to save America by making the government take care of everyone. Do me a favour though. Write a letter to your great grand children who will grow up in an America that serves as a service state for the Chinese Empire. Because that's where we're all headed the day the Chinese say "pay up". The Health Care reform is just another added piece to the whole thing. It's not ruining anything by itself. It's just another step in the wrong direction. It's simple math that you learn a lot earlier than grade 8 and it stays true a long time after grade 8; when you don't have the money to pay for what you already have don't borrow more money to buy more things you can't pay for.

You don't even know my stance on abortion, I haven't even mentioned it here.  And it doesn't matter where she's at, that's her shtick to rile up conservatives that are already convinced by completely dissing the other side.  Same reason why I find Maher annoying, Bill Maher being completely against religion and he just calls religious people idiots basically. For one thing, the new law isn't forcing the people to be taken care by the Government. If you truly feel Obama is that far left, then soon we'll expect the military budget to start receiving huge budget cuts so tax payer's money will start being spread to better causes. But I doubt conservatives want that to happen.  And honestly, the way the government is being managed when my grand children are running around will be the least of my worries because there are far worse things happening by that time. 


I jumped to the conclusion you were pro-choice. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but my argument stays the same.

And Obama is not my concern. He isn't doing anything Bush wasn't doing, or Clinton, or everyone dating back to who knows who. I'm quite comfortable with the idea of the Chinese Empire collecting and taking over. The only letter to my great grand children will be of me saying nah naw nah naw boo boo. I just get a kick of people thinking Obama is changing anything. He's not. He's just continuing the path.
 

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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2010, 12:54:52 PM »
A rant based on a lie too.  The bill that was signed by law wasn't going to publicly fund abortions, and just to even make sure Obama has to sign another law to make sure.  It's another straight up lie to get people fired up.  And that's the problem right there.  She's firing up the wrong conservatives, the ones that make conservatives look bad.  The ones that throw dollar bills at people with Parkinson's.  The ones that think this health care bill is going to cause armageddon. The ones that don't need to be convinced of being a Republican/Conservative/etc.   


Who is she firing up on a Canadian TV show? We have those policies here. It's a fact that women who wanted late term abortions and had Canadian doctors refuse all across the country were sent through tax payer money to the US to have an abortionist perform it. Our abortion laws make your laws look like Pat Robertson wrote them.

Even if it's a lie, the logic is still the same, and it's not 8th grade stuff. Take that debate into an 8th grade class and see what the kids think of it. You're trivializing it because it goes against your stance.

My stance isn't one or the other. I never said a woman should be forced to take the pregnancy to term. I'd never vote Republican or Democrat if I could in the US.

I get it. You think Obama is going to save America by making the government take care of everyone. Do me a favour though. Write a letter to your great grand children who will grow up in an America that serves as a service state for the Chinese Empire. Because that's where we're all headed the day the Chinese say "pay up". The Health Care reform is just another added piece to the whole thing. It's not ruining anything by itself. It's just another step in the wrong direction. It's simple math that you learn a lot earlier than grade 8 and it stays true a long time after grade 8; when you don't have the money to pay for what you already have don't borrow more money to buy more things you can't pay for.

You don't even know my stance on abortion, I haven't even mentioned it here.  And it doesn't matter where she's at, that's her shtick to rile up conservatives that are already convinced by completely dissing the other side.  Same reason why I find Maher annoying, Bill Maher being completely against religion and he just calls religious people idiots basically. For one thing, the new law isn't forcing the people to be taken care by the Government. If you truly feel Obama is that far left, then soon we'll expect the military budget to start receiving huge budget cuts so tax payer's money will start being spread to better causes. But I doubt conservatives want that to happen.  And honestly, the way the government is being managed when my grand children are running around will be the least of my worries because there are far worse things happening by that time. 


I jumped to the conclusion you were pro-choice. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but my argument stays the same.

And Obama is not my concern. He isn't doing anything Bush wasn't doing, or Clinton, or everyone dating back to who knows who. I'm quite comfortable with the idea of the Chinese Empire collecting and taking over. The only letter to my great grand children will be of me saying nah naw nah naw boo boo. I just get a kick of people thinking Obama is changing anything. He's not. He's just continuing the path.

Yeah, the Executive branch itself has continued to grow and grow and at the same time government has grown as well.  What annoys me is the sudden uprise from people that are calling this armageddon and the most socialist thing this country has ever done.  Majority of these people looked up to President Bush and would just laugh at the critics but it's only now that you're seeing these guys cry out socialism.  I definitely don't see Obama as a savior, but I do think it's great that at least he takes an integral approach to most issues he looks at. 
 

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Re: Ann Coulter does it again
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2010, 01:05:14 PM »
A rant based on a lie too.  The bill that was signed by law wasn't going to publicly fund abortions, and just to even make sure Obama has to sign another law to make sure.  It's another straight up lie to get people fired up.  And that's the problem right there.  She's firing up the wrong conservatives, the ones that make conservatives look bad.  The ones that throw dollar bills at people with Parkinson's.  The ones that think this health care bill is going to cause armageddon. The ones that don't need to be convinced of being a Republican/Conservative/etc.   


Who is she firing up on a Canadian TV show? We have those policies here. It's a fact that women who wanted late term abortions and had Canadian doctors refuse all across the country were sent through tax payer money to the US to have an abortionist perform it. Our abortion laws make your laws look like Pat Robertson wrote them.

Even if it's a lie, the logic is still the same, and it's not 8th grade stuff. Take that debate into an 8th grade class and see what the kids think of it. You're trivializing it because it goes against your stance.

My stance isn't one or the other. I never said a woman should be forced to take the pregnancy to term. I'd never vote Republican or Democrat if I could in the US.

I get it. You think Obama is going to save America by making the government take care of everyone. Do me a favour though. Write a letter to your great grand children who will grow up in an America that serves as a service state for the Chinese Empire. Because that's where we're all headed the day the Chinese say "pay up". The Health Care reform is just another added piece to the whole thing. It's not ruining anything by itself. It's just another step in the wrong direction. It's simple math that you learn a lot earlier than grade 8 and it stays true a long time after grade 8; when you don't have the money to pay for what you already have don't borrow more money to buy more things you can't pay for.

You don't even know my stance on abortion, I haven't even mentioned it here.  And it doesn't matter where she's at, that's her shtick to rile up conservatives that are already convinced by completely dissing the other side.  Same reason why I find Maher annoying, Bill Maher being completely against religion and he just calls religious people idiots basically. For one thing, the new law isn't forcing the people to be taken care by the Government. If you truly feel Obama is that far left, then soon we'll expect the military budget to start receiving huge budget cuts so tax payer's money will start being spread to better causes. But I doubt conservatives want that to happen.  And honestly, the way the government is being managed when my grand children are running around will be the least of my worries because there are far worse things happening by that time. 


I jumped to the conclusion you were pro-choice. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but my argument stays the same.

And Obama is not my concern. He isn't doing anything Bush wasn't doing, or Clinton, or everyone dating back to who knows who. I'm quite comfortable with the idea of the Chinese Empire collecting and taking over. The only letter to my great grand children will be of me saying nah naw nah naw boo boo. I just get a kick of people thinking Obama is changing anything. He's not. He's just continuing the path.

Yeah, the Executive branch itself has continued to grow and grow and at the same time government has grown as well.  What annoys me is the sudden uprise from people that are calling this armageddon and the most socialist thing this country has ever done.  Majority of these people looked up to President Bush and would just laugh at the critics but it's only now that you're seeing these guys cry out socialism.  I definitely don't see Obama as a savior, but I do think it's great that at least he takes an integral approach to most issues he looks at. 

I don't think HE is taking any approach. I've felt since high school that the parties work together to cause destruction and Dems to this while Rep do that, only to create some sort of false difference, and every year I feel more and more right about that. I don't see Obama passing anything any of the other top Dems wouldn't have passed if they had won. But you're talking to a guy that thinks the World Cup is theater used to intoxicate the masses of the second and third world.