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lol, he does seem to have a personal animosity towards Ice Cube in particular. iI was probably the "you let a jew break up my crew" line. Cube basically destroyed Heller's entire image to the hip hop audience, whether deserved or not. Definitely a good read though.
Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on May 15, 2010, 02:32:54 AMlol, he does seem to have a personal animosity towards Ice Cube in particular. iI was probably the "you let a jew break up my crew" line. Cube basically destroyed Heller's entire image to the hip hop audience, whether deserved or not. Definitely a good read though. I doubt it's that. I think Dre and Snoop made Jerry a much bigger punching bag than Cube did. It could be that Cube was still on it as recently as the last N.W.A. reunion with the "Fuck Jerry Heller and them white super-powers" line but I just get the vibe that the two really don't like one another. Heller really gives all the credit for N.W.A. to Dre and Eazy and quotes as Eazy as supposedly saying that "N.W.A. is me, Dre, and Jerry Heller. That's it!". I'd more agree with Doug Young's line when he found out Cube left, "How you gonna let the Nigga WITH the attitude leave Niggaz Wit Attitude?".
Ro's books are entertaining but it's like tabloid TV. A lot of it is just sensationlized stories. The Heller book is a good read. He goes into Cube hard. He is actually very kind to Dre given the history (he pretty much calls him the most important part of N.W.A.) but he really doesn't have much nice to say about Cube or D.O.C. for that matter. He basically says that Eric and Cube's last meeting wasn't a legit burying of the hatchet and Eazy still didn't like Cube but wanted to have an N.W.A. reunion. If you're looking for a good counter-balance to Ronin Ro's Dre book, the one that Dre's former right-hand, Bruce Williams, wrote is pretty good. He details a lot of the Death Row drama and gives some very interesting insight into the problems at Aftermath as well as the real issues in the 50-Game beef. His critique of the Game is very interesting.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on May 15, 2010, 04:04:40 AMQuote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on May 15, 2010, 02:32:54 AMlol, he does seem to have a personal animosity towards Ice Cube in particular. iI was probably the "you let a jew break up my crew" line. Cube basically destroyed Heller's entire image to the hip hop audience, whether deserved or not. Definitely a good read though. I doubt it's that. I think Dre and Snoop made Jerry a much bigger punching bag than Cube did. It could be that Cube was still on it as recently as the last N.W.A. reunion with the "Fuck Jerry Heller and them white super-powers" line but I just get the vibe that the two really don't like one another. Heller really gives all the credit for N.W.A. to Dre and Eazy and quotes as Eazy as supposedly saying that "N.W.A. is me, Dre, and Jerry Heller. That's it!". I'd more agree with Doug Young's line when he found out Cube left, "How you gonna let the Nigga WITH the attitude leave Niggaz Wit Attitude?". Dre and Snoop went after Eazy, not Heller. He was only mentioned on the intro to the Chronic: "I don't love jerry". It was Cube who put the perception out there that Jerry Heller was ripping everyone off.
whats he have to say about game??
Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on May 15, 2010, 05:03:28 AMQuote from: Jimmy H. on May 15, 2010, 04:04:40 AMQuote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on May 15, 2010, 02:32:54 AMlol, he does seem to have a personal animosity towards Ice Cube in particular. iI was probably the "you let a jew break up my crew" line. Cube basically destroyed Heller's entire image to the hip hop audience, whether deserved or not. Definitely a good read though. I doubt it's that. I think Dre and Snoop made Jerry a much bigger punching bag than Cube did. It could be that Cube was still on it as recently as the last N.W.A. reunion with the "Fuck Jerry Heller and them white super-powers" line but I just get the vibe that the two really don't like one another. Heller really gives all the credit for N.W.A. to Dre and Eazy and quotes as Eazy as supposedly saying that "N.W.A. is me, Dre, and Jerry Heller. That's it!". I'd more agree with Doug Young's line when he found out Cube left, "How you gonna let the Nigga WITH the attitude leave Niggaz Wit Attitude?". Dre and Snoop went after Eazy, not Heller. He was only mentioned on the intro to the Chronic: "I don't love jerry". It was Cube who put the perception out there that Jerry Heller was ripping everyone off.watch the dre day video
Quote from: xover on May 15, 2010, 10:31:20 AMwhats he have to say about game?? To sum it up, he basically said he liked Game but he needed guidance when it came to drama. He said people like Busta Rhymes and Snoop had the wisdom to tell him he was being disrespectful but he wasn't much of a listener. He brings up a story where Snoop overheard him talking shit about Bow Wow and said Snoop put him in check in a very sort of respectful big brother way by saying, "Look, you my nigga and Bow Wow my nigga so you don't have to talk that way about dude". He also basically throws out the opinion that Game should have been more appreciative to 50 for giving him both of the hit singles he was saving for his album so that Game's shit could get off the ground. In the way I write it, it kind of sounds like he's dissing Game but Williams actually seems very complimentary in how it reads.
The book was interesting no doubt. However, it was rather biased against Cube leaving the group and "ruining" the Black Beatles.
none of us will REALLY KNOW WHAT THA FUCK HAPPENED until MC Ren, Dr. Dre, or Ice Cube comes out with a book. Same thing with DeathRow Records, NONE OF US WILL EVER KNOW UNLESS DRE, DAZ, KURUPT or SNOOP comes out with a book EXPLAINING (in detail) about what happened. everybody else's shit WILL BE speculation, biasness, 3rd & 4th party accounts without the actual blacknwhite papers, and disses about what happened. who knows, maybe Dre really did get paid what he was supposed to from The Chronic and Straight Outta Compton and just didn't appreciate his cut bcuz of how it blew up so he bounced, same with Cube and NWA, surely Daz would've left earlier if it was all that serious at DeathRow. u never know, it's really just all hype and bitterness. And honestly for the record I just don't trust Suge. If he came out with a book about DeathRow u know he would throw some hype and some exaggerations in there, not to say that they won't but I think their words would be a little more credible with Snoopy being at the bottom of the list and Dre being on top.maybe Heller thought he was doing the right thing but just didn't really realize what he was doing. u can't blame ignorance or misunderstandings or something that wasn't intentional. now i'm not defending Jerry Heller bcuz like I said NONE OF US ACTUALLY KNOW (similar stories things can be said about Suge, Snoop thanked him in a recent interview) but most people when they read don't think with a 2-step mind, it's all 1-step mixed with a little gullableness and not actually knowing what tha fuck happened. Who knows, maybe Heller called Cube a nigger and Cube bounced. Maybe Heller got too comfortable with the word and Cube wasn't really feelin it.
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