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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2010, 01:34:41 PM »

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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2010, 01:42:08 PM »
Lot of dumb hip-hop elitist comments like "if you like Drake, you must be listening to Britney Spears" or "only 12 year old girls listen to this music" or "name a random song >>> drake's career". There's a reason Crooked I has yet to release an album in his 15 year career.

& the reason, quite simply, is that he won't make music like that lol.

i love when it's a debate about a big name in the mainstream vs. an underground artist (even though Drake vs. Crooked I is a joke), somebody always refers to how the underground guy doesn't sell or do well or in this case, doesn't put out an album; that's incredibly irrelevant to whose better lol.

if anybody here is REALLY trying to tell me Drake is close be being as good as Crooked I as a rapper, that's a COMPLETE joke.

now, if some of you are trying to say from a musical standpoint that you'd rather listen to Drake's music than Crooked I's, well, whatever floats your boat, brah; but i best not see ANY of you ever going into a thread bad mouthing the state of Hip Hop lol.

Won't make music like that ? Crooked I has made several attempts at a crossover mainstream record, working with Sisqo to Akon, the difference between him and Drake is that he failed. What Crooked I should really be doing is go independent and create a solid, loyal fan base and build from there. But he's to obssed with becoming the next 50 Cent and being in denial that he doesn't have what it takes to be a rap star.

How is putting out an album irrelevant ? I know you follow basketball; that's like somebody playing great basketball in the streets but never made it in the NBA. I judge rappers based on their discography, fuck a freestyle or a hip-hop weekly. Releasing an album comes with 100 new added details, pressure; anybody can make a freestyle, not everybody can put out a great album.

Bad mouthing the state of hip-hop ? Ok, I get it, Crooked I is real hip hop and Drake is fake hip hop right. Now tell me, what exactly does Crooked I bring to the rap game, what is he doing to change the state of hip-hop. People usually do that by releasing an album that changes the direction of music... well we all know Crooked hasn't done anything about that.

This is getting off topic but I actually agree with everything said here about Crooked I. That's why I don't think there's even a comparison to rappers who have put out good albums. But what does this have to do with Drake? He doesn't even have an album out yet. So far almost everything I've heard from Drake has been bitch music.

im surprised you dont enjoy it. youve been bitchin a whole lot in this thread

lol @ a drake stan getting mad. It's the truth. The music and the fanbase don't lie.

lol where are you even from you idiot? europe? it would sense.

Im from north of toronto canada, and i have yet to meet someone who isnt digging drake, young, old, male, female.

take your opinion and run with it, no one is really with you homie.

hahah...its a huge fail if you're a guy from Canada hoping to criticize where I'm from. I'm from the bay, born and raised off of hip hop since 1985. And watered down pop songs made for women are still watered down pop songs made for women, regardless of whether you like it or not. I know a couple guys who like Drake's older shit, but its all bitches who like his songs like Best I Ever Had. And clearly you're a stan if you get your feelings hurt and have to resort to personal attacks over someone not liking a rapper you listen to.
 

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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2010, 02:09:54 PM »
just relax man.

i remember when i was a hip hop elitist and thought if any music was getting air play, it was wack music. If it wasnt produced by dilla ect it was wack music.

But then i grew up. and i started appreciating other forms of hip hop.

Music is music. Its for different moods. I still love my underground shit, but at the same time i love throwing on a little drake, maybe some Dream, maybe a little JT, whatever!

Everyone has an opinion and we all know yours, so just relax dude, you seem like the one getting all upset over this. I couldnt care if you dont like Drake, your from the bay, you
dont understand.

Just the same way how i dont understand how all you bay cats like Mac Dre.

So thats it, do you understand what im saying though man? Do you feel a little bit better about the situation?

Lets hug it out
 

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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2010, 02:28:48 PM »
Just as long as you realize its music that is mostly targeted at women, cause that's all I was saying in the first place. I understand there are some guys that enjoy bitch music, but its still bitch music all the same. Maybe Canadians have a different perspective but if you had been raised in the States and experienced American music culture from an inside perspective you would have the clear knowledge that such music is labeled as "music for the bitches". I'm not saying some guys don't like it, but the vast majority of people who like that music are bitches. Like when I was a kid there were some guys at my school who liked Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, and N'Sync. But it was still bitch music, and it wasn't something a guy would walk around blasting with his homeboys and be proud of you understand? I guess people from other countries don't have the same concept of masculinity versus femininity that Americans do. But hell, this is a west coast hip hop forum so if you get a little clowning for liking that kind of music don't get offended.
 

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« Reply #79 on: May 24, 2010, 02:34:52 PM »
Just as long as you realize its music that is mostly targeted at women, cause that's all I was saying in the first place. I understand there are some guys that enjoy bitch music, but its still bitch music all the same. Maybe Canadians have a different perspective but if you had been raised in the States and experienced American music culture from an inside perspective you would have the clear knowledge that such music is labeled as "music for the bitches". I'm not saying some guys don't like it, but the vast majority of people who like that music are bitches. Like when I was a kid there were some guys at my school who liked Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, and N'Sync. But it was still bitch music, and it wasn't something a guy would walk around blasting with his homeboys and be proud of you understand? I guess people from other countries don't have the same concept of masculinity versus femininity that Americans do. But hell, this is a west coast hip hop forum so if you get a little clowning for liking that kind of music don't get offended.

music is for everyone, if you have a complex about masculinity keep it to yourself. im not even really a fan of drakes newer stuff i just find your whole viewpoint ridiculous, posturing and overly-macho.

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« Reply #80 on: May 24, 2010, 02:48:00 PM »
Just as long as you realize its music that is mostly targeted at women, cause that's all I was saying in the first place. I understand there are some guys that enjoy bitch music, but its still bitch music all the same. Maybe Canadians have a different perspective but if you had been raised in the States and experienced American music culture from an inside perspective you would have the clear knowledge that such music is labeled as "music for the bitches". I'm not saying some guys don't like it, but the vast majority of people who like that music are bitches. Like when I was a kid there were some guys at my school who liked Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, and N'Sync. But it was still bitch music, and it wasn't something a guy would walk around blasting with his homeboys and be proud of you understand? I guess people from other countries don't have the same concept of masculinity versus femininity that Americans do. But hell, this is a west coast hip hop forum so if you get a little clowning for liking that kind of music don't get offended.

music is for everyone, if you have a complex about masculinity keep it to yourself. im not even really a fan of drakes newer stuff i just find your whole viewpoint ridiculous, posturing and overly-macho.

well in Europe its cool for guys to kiss so.....yeah.....why are you on a west coast hip hop forum again?
 

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« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2010, 02:57:30 PM »
Drake is boring.Hes got his mainstream appeal and theirs nothing wrong with that,but in no way is drake a good rapper.I laugh when people refer to him as punchline rapper Ive yet to hear one good punchline come from his mouth,heres a typical drake verse

Im all about the cash,TANGO,Girl you aint gotta worry Ill pick you up,BOUNTY,oh you got a kid sorry I aint into babys,WEEZY

 

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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
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« Reply #83 on: May 24, 2010, 03:21:34 PM »
Drake is boring.Hes got his mainstream appeal and theirs nothing wrong with that,but in no way is drake a good rapper.I laugh when people refer to him as punchline rapper Ive yet to hear one good punchline come from his mouth,heres a typical drake verse

Im all about the cash,TANGO,Girl you aint gotta worry Ill pick you up,BOUNTY,oh you got a kid sorry I aint into babys,WEEZY



yo dogg yo flow is tight!
 

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« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2010, 03:22:45 PM »
Drake is boring.Hes got his mainstream appeal and theirs nothing wrong with that,but in no way is drake a good rapper.I laugh when people refer to him as punchline rapper Ive yet to hear one good punchline come from his mouth,heres a typical drake verse

Im all about the cash,TANGO,Girl you aint gotta worry Ill pick you up,BOUNTY,oh you got a kid sorry I aint into babys,WEEZY


lol true, but to me he ight,i just don't braille that killers song with nipsey, this pussy ain't no killer,if he stays in his lane he's a cool artist, will never be my favorite but i will still get his shit before crooked i or game yell
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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2010, 04:26:49 PM »
Lot of dumb hip-hop elitist comments like "if you like Drake, you must be listening to Britney Spears" or "only 12 year old girls listen to this music" or "name a random song >>> drake's career". There's a reason Crooked I has yet to release an album in his 15 year career.

& the reason, quite simply, is that he won't make music like that lol.

i love when it's a debate about a big name in the mainstream vs. an underground artist (even though Drake vs. Crooked I is a joke), somebody always refers to how the underground guy doesn't sell or do well or in this case, doesn't put out an album; that's incredibly irrelevant to whose better lol.

if anybody here is REALLY trying to tell me Drake is close be being as good as Crooked I as a rapper, that's a COMPLETE joke.

now, if some of you are trying to say from a musical standpoint that you'd rather listen to Drake's music than Crooked I's, well, whatever floats your boat, brah; but i best not see ANY of you ever going into a thread bad mouthing the state of Hip Hop lol.

Won't make music like that ? Crooked I has made several attempts at a crossover mainstream record, working with Sisqo to Akon, the difference between him and Drake is that he failed. What Crooked I should really be doing is go independent and create a solid, loyal fan base and build from there. But he's to obssed with becoming the next 50 Cent and being in denial that he doesn't have what it takes to be a rap star.

How is putting out an album irrelevant ? I know you follow basketball; that's like somebody playing great basketball in the streets but never made it in the NBA. I judge rappers based on their discography, fuck a freestyle or a hip-hop weekly. Releasing an album comes with 100 new added details, pressure; anybody can make a freestyle, not everybody can put out a great album.

Bad mouthing the state of hip-hop ? Ok, I get it, Crooked I is real hip hop and Drake is fake hip hop right. Now tell me, what exactly does Crooked I bring to the rap game, what is he doing to change the state of hip-hop. People usually do that by releasing an album that changes the direction of music... well we all know Crooked hasn't done anything about that.

i'll respond to each paragraph, respectively.

there is a big difference from Akon on the hook (which i always found to be dope) & have Drake singing in autotune lol; you won't see Crooked doing that.

i don't need an album to enjoy music. over the years, Crooked I has put out some amazing songs & spit some amazing freestyles & they don't have to be on a disc & sold in stores for fifteen dollars for me to love them. honestly, if i had the image to appeal to the mainstream & these ghostwriters found a formulatic single for me to just record & release, i could push close to selling a million copies; the game is just who can drop the hottest singles. also, what do albums mean if the music isn't any good? again with the comparison with myself, what if i dropped an album & it sucked ass minus like two songs? i'm better than Crooked I because i have the mainstream image, appeal & single to sell records? actual rapping doesn't sell anymore, it's all image, so i can't hold that against Crooked I that he physically can't sell because no matter how amazing a song he makes, kids aren't going to listen to it because his name isn't Sean Carter or Marshall Mathers.

for your third point, it's basically been explained in my second response; but i will say like somebody else has, Drake hasn't even dropped an album yet, so how does that work for him? unless you're saying "Over" & "Find Your Love" makes him better than Crooked I because those will appear on his upcoming album; but to me, "Over" is just an overrated song & "Find Your Love" will sell because women love it & because the girl in the video has the fattest ass in the world lol.
 

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« Reply #86 on: May 24, 2010, 04:46:49 PM »
i can make a drake type of line

i get that green, mexican gardner
and i just keep goin harder, boner
phone her and she dont answer, mute

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« Reply #87 on: May 24, 2010, 05:16:31 PM »
the only 2 drake tracks ive really enjoyed, both with dope production, decent verses, dope guests, which is what makes me sad when i hear the bullshit he drops regularly now

Drake (ft Phonte & Elzhi) - Think Good Thoughts (Prod by 9th Wonder)
Drake (ft Von P & Phonte) My New (Prod by Nottz)

This was actually dope. Are these the only songs he has like this?

as far as i know yeah...he has another track with Little Brother and Dwele called Dont You Have A Man, not as good as those 2 tho


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« Reply #88 on: May 24, 2010, 05:27:08 PM »
Drake is boring.Hes got his mainstream appeal and theirs nothing wrong with that,but in no way is drake a good rapper.I laugh when people refer to him as punchline rapper Ive yet to hear one good punchline come from his mouth,heres a typical drake verse

Im all about the cash,TANGO,Girl you aint gotta worry Ill pick you up,BOUNTY,oh you got a kid sorry I aint into babys,WEEZY



yo dogg yo flow is tight!

I should ghostwrite for drake,those lines were just as good if not better then anything hes ever dropped.
 

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« Reply #89 on: May 24, 2010, 05:31:39 PM »

I hate drake but I listen to Gucci
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« Reply #90 on: May 24, 2010, 05:41:17 PM »
I still cant wrap my head around people liking gucci.Lil wayne,jeezy etc they all ahve their place and can make soem great songs but gucci?The guy sounds like mush mouth from fat albert and his lyrics make me cringe.
 

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« Reply #92 on: May 24, 2010, 05:57:51 PM »
I still cant wrap my head around people liking gucci.Lil wayne,jeezy etc they all ahve their place and can make soem great songs but gucci?The guy sounds like mush mouth from fat albert and his lyrics make me cringe.
I think I'd rather listen to Soulja Boi rather than Gucci, especially when he got that OJ tha Juiceboi with him.

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« Reply #93 on: May 24, 2010, 07:47:16 PM »
I still cant wrap my head around people liking gucci.Lil wayne,jeezy etc they all ahve their place and can make soem great songs but gucci?The guy sounds like mush mouth from fat albert and his lyrics make me cringe.

For real, I stll reckon Gucci is mildly retarded
 

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« Reply #94 on: May 24, 2010, 07:53:53 PM »
I still cant wrap my head around people liking gucci.Lil wayne,jeezy etc they all ahve their place and can make soem great songs but gucci?The guy sounds like mush mouth from fat albert and his lyrics make me cringe.

For real, I stll reckon Gucci is mildly retarded

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« Reply #95 on: May 24, 2010, 08:39:01 PM »
I still cant wrap my head around people liking gucci.Lil wayne,jeezy etc they all ahve their place and can make soem great songs but gucci?The guy sounds like mush mouth from fat albert and his lyrics make me cringe.

For real, I stll reckon Gucci is mildly retarded

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Haha fuckkk I haven't seen that vid in ages, Eli actually sounds like Gucci haha, maybe with better punchlines? +1 bro
 

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« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2010, 05:53:23 AM »
Drake barley sings in autotune. None of the singles from the album so far had autotune.

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i don't need an album to enjoy music. over the years, Crooked I has put out some amazing songs & spit some amazing freestyles & they don't have to be on a disc & sold in stores for fifteen dollars for me to love them.

Well that's you but that's a wierd logic for me. They do need to be on a disc because that comes with a whole other angle; you have to sequence it properly, make it cohesive, appeal to your fanbase but still brake new demographic barriers.... I'm gonna go with the basketball player example again; wouldn't you get tired of your favorite player just playing on the streets for 15 years. Wouldn't you like to see him in the NBA with the big dogs and see if his talent can truly be put to good use ?

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honestly, if i had the image to appeal to the mainstream & these ghostwriters found a formulatic single for me to just record & release, i could push close to selling a million copies; the game is just who can drop the hottest singles.


That's not true. Especially in the last few years we've seen a billion one hit wonders who sell shitloads of ring tones but flop album wise. And what happens to them is that they're forgotten in a 6 months span. What I'm talking about is building your fan base, showing that you're more than just a hot single, making a complete body of work.

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also, what do albums mean if the music isn't any good? again with the comparison with myself, what if i dropped an album & it sucked ass minus like two songs? i'm better than Crooked I because i have the mainstream image, appeal & single to sell records? actual rapping doesn't sell anymore, it's all image, so i can't hold that against Crooked I that he physically can't sell because no matter how amazing a song he makes, kids aren't going to listen to it because his name isn't Sean Carter or Marshall Mathers.

I've already explained the first part in a previous quote; we're talking about having a long career, not ringtone rappers. About the 2nd part, none of the songs Crooked I released as potential hit singles were amazing music. That's my whole "beef" with you. You're acting like your and Crooked's vision is all "fuck mainstream", when in reality he has made several attempts at a crossover record but didn't succeed. I mean, if your logic was true why in the hell would Slaughterhouse sign to Shady, why would their ideal 5th member be Lil Wayne and why was "The One" their first single ?
 

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« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2010, 06:24:28 AM »
Leaking songs and mixtapes isn't the same as putting out an album. They're a cop out basically, since they take away the element of critical opinion. They allow a rapper to put out music and not have it be judged, since leaked songs and mixtapes aren't criticized. If a rapper comes with a shitty album, it will be received as a shitty album and be a dent on their record. But no one cares about weak mixtapes, come to think of it I can't even think of a rapper who is known for dropping weak mixtapes. They definitely exist, but no one remembers that shit because its not counted as part of their legacy. It's a copout, a way to test the waters and keep people listening to some of your music while not risking the chance that it will fail.

There's also the issue of consistency. If a rapper leaks 20 songs over a period of time and half of them are dope, someone will go "damn this guy has 10 songs that are fire." But if those same 20 songs were released as an album it would be a mediocre album and be seen completely differently. Since Crooked I has leaked a lot of songs over the years, I'm sure you're looking at your ipod going "look at all those songs by Crooked I like" But what about all his shit you've skipped over? What about all the bad, forgettable songs? It's like people forget about those when they aren't viewed as an entire package as an album. Because an album creates a lasting legacy, whether good or bad, and mixtapes and songs leaks simply don't do that.

I think there is a reason Crooked I's projects that are closest to an album (his EPs) have all been disappointing. We've heard the unreleased version of what should have been his DR debut and it was just your average gangsta rap album, nothing special about it. And I think its very unlikely that he has the ability to drop a classic album. I appreciate him for what he can do but at the end of the day he simply isn't comparable to anyone with a history of good solid albums, no matter how many freestyles he drops or songs he leaks.
 

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« Reply #98 on: May 25, 2010, 07:22:12 AM »
I more or less co-sign both of the past comments by Meho and Rapsor Die.

I don't support calling music "bitch music" nor do I support bigging up stereotypes of an individual based on masculinity or feminineness.   Most of Drake's music is a positive step in a community that's so focused on degrading the female.

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Re: Drake sounds like a robot...
« Reply #99 on: May 25, 2010, 07:41:48 AM »
cmon man. You've got to admit certain things are feminine. We wouldn't have the difference between genders if they weren't. I actually lolled at the comment that said I was super macho, cause I don't even see myself as that. I guess its a compliment, cause I've always seen myself as an average guy. But certain things are clearly more oriented towards women. Like wearing tight clothing, putting on lipstick and mascara, twilight, drake, etc. All this transgender stuff is bull. If a guy likes Twilight, I'm going to lol about it, just like any other guy would.

I'll all for someone being creative with their music, but its not like Drake is groundbreaking or going against any stereotypes. He's just like your average pop rappers like Ja Rule who have made songs for women in the past, minus the gangster image.