So Jay Z is the GOAT you tell me? let's take a look

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Everyone says its a classic album. The thread starter even said

it is it's the second most overrated classic of all time

Thereby acknowledging that this album is considered a classic. The fact we are even having this discussion says that its considered a classic.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

lol

Everyone says its a classic album. The thread starter even said

it is it's the second most overrated classic of all time

Thereby acknowledging that this album is considered a classic. The fact we are even having this discussion says that its considered a classic.

[Paul]

I loved half of Reasonable Doubt and thought the other half was alright.

Not a personal classic. I preffered Blueprint.

[theremedy360]

Jay has some great songs and great albums, but when people put him in the same class as Nas, Rakim, etc I always laugh.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

Dont matter if he releases a better album than illmatic, better diss than ether, his lyrical delivery will and has never matched up 2 krs one, nas, and rakim

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Dont matter if he releases a better album than illmatic, better diss than ether, his lyrical delivery will and has never matched up 2 krs one, nas, and rakim

Lyrically? Nas > Rakim > Jay-Z > KRS One

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

No way imo jay is above krs one...no way krs will make jay cry...whats so special bout jay?

[MediumL]

Jays dropped some crazy verses. That song on DMX 2nd album was fucked.

[Bananas]

To an influential, money earning, stressed out young man overflowing with charisma like me, Jay has always provided a good archetype for the alternate universe me.

I totally understand why a lot of people on this forum hate though.


Reasonable Doubt - (5)
Vol. 1 - 4)
Vol. 2 - (4)
Vol. 3 - (4)
Blueprint - (4.5)
Blueprint 2 - (3)
Black Album - (4)
Kingdom Come - (2.0) C
American Gangster - (2.0)
Blueprint 3 - (1.0)

[Fraxxx]

To an influential, money earning, stressed out young man overflowing with charisma like me, Jay has always provided a good archetype for the alternate universe me.

I totally understand why a lot of people on this forum hate though.


Reasonable Doubt - (5)
Vol. 1 - 4)
Vol. 2 - (4)
Vol. 3 - (4)
Blueprint - (4.5)
Blueprint 2 - (3)
Black Album - (4)
Kingdom Come - (2.0) C
American Gangster - (2.0)
Blueprint 3 - (1.0)

Vol. 2 was a fuckin weak album! I won't argue about how good each album is but this one was so bad I had to give my 2 cents.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

No way imo jay is above krs one...no way krs will make jay cry...whats so special bout jay?

What's so special about Jay? What's so special about Kris? Jay's best verses >>> KRS One's best verses. I've never gotten why people consider KRS-One an elite lyricist. Most of his lyrics seem pretty simple to me. He dropped his best shit in the late 80s when lyricism hadn't really taken off yet. It was dope for his time. And he's a legend. But as a pure lyricist? Nah. He's got charisma and he can probably rock a show better than any of the other 4 but as far as lyrics go he's last.

Just compare the punchlines on The Bridge is Over to the punchlines on Takeover and you'll see what I mean.

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

2 each is own but overall imo jay cant c krs let alone nas or rakim...never has and whats goin 2 change bout jay that he could ever b on their level? I guess we can go back and fourth as 2 y jay is better/y krs is better or whats so special bout krs/...but imho krs is somethin special on the mic...2 this day {no homo}

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

2 each is own but overall imo jay cant c krs let alone nas or rakim...never has and whats goin 2 change bout jay that he could ever b on their level? I guess we can go back and fourth as 2 y jay is better/y krs is better or whats so special bout krs/...but imho krs is somethin special on the mic...2 this day {no homo}

aight, let's compare lyrics then. Where are all these outstanding lyrics?

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

you go by dominating they era's lyrically and hip hop influence "not that white man shit either haha" the bridge is over is a better song then take over, plus it ended a battle while the takeover was bested by ether yell

[Detox Iz Not Active]

I personally don't consider Reasonable Doubt a classic, hence its 4.5/5, so STFU