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DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« on: July 18, 2010, 08:56:58 AM »
Probably been debated on here a lot but I want to make it more interesting.  For me, the short answer would be that he's outdated.  He's never changed his sound, it's 2010 and his stuff sounds like it's 98.  Now that's my opinion, and some people also think that but they then say that he's overrated.  People think that Primo is overrated just because he's outdated.  Clearly he is outdated in the mainstream world, with producers like Timbaland, DJ Khaled, Kanye, Pharrell, Just Blaze, Lil John etc. (not saying that these guys are better, but I'm talking in terms of sound.)  If you compare the music that has come out during the last few years to Primo's last few years of making tracks, you can clearly hear a difference between them.  And when you hear them, it sounds like Primo's stuff is totally outdated since you just hear those similar sounding kicks and snares (he's got some different ones but now a days, they sound the same,) and he always uses those 70's samples.  Personally, Primo should change up his style a little bit so that he can attract a bigger audience.  But does having the same sound mean that you're overrated?  Absolutely not.  To me, that's just how great producers are remembered and revered for.  Like when you think of Dr. Dre you think of G-Funk and with Primo you think of his legendary chopping and scratching skills.  So what do you guys think, is Primo overrated or is he just outdated? 
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 09:06:26 AM »
neither. good, head nodding hip-hop never goes out of date. he aint the best producer ever or anything, but one of the illest in hip-hop. distinct sound, seriously thumping beats.

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 09:13:46 AM »
thankfully we still have producers like him, i don't care about the rest
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 09:15:33 AM »
yeah definitely, Primo is hip hop at its purest.  Also, I just realized that he worked with Christiana Aguliera (sp lol.)  Just heard some of those tracks, and I guess you can say that he evolved a bit, so we should consider that whether its hip hop or not.
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 09:17:38 AM »
his work with christina was crossing a very fine-line and primo came out with flying colours. stayed completely true to his sound and made a cross-over hit. it wouldn't of worked with a lot of r&b singers, she has that vintage diva kind of powerful voice. top-notch production and the other tracks he did on her album were dope too.

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 09:20:42 AM »
his work with christina was crossing a very fine-line and primo came out with flying colours. stayed completely true to his sound and made a cross-over hit. top-notch production and the other tracks he did on her album were dope too.

yeah but I still think that he changed his style a little bit.  However, I do agree with you.  They ironically make a good combination and I thought that Christina's vocals on the tracks made Primo's beats even better.
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 09:22:47 AM »
his work with christina was crossing a very fine-line and primo came out with flying colours. stayed completely true to his sound and made a cross-over hit. top-notch production and the other tracks he did on her album were dope too.

yeah but I still think that he changed his style a little bit.  However, I do agree with you.  They ironically make a good combination and I thought that Christina's vocals on the tracks made Primo's beats even better.

check out the 'still dirty' beat and imagine guru rapping on it 8)

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 09:26:05 AM »
his work with christina was crossing a very fine-line and primo came out with flying colours. stayed completely true to his sound and made a cross-over hit. top-notch production and the other tracks he did on her album were dope too.

yeah but I still think that he changed his style a little bit.  However, I do agree with you.  They ironically make a good combination and I thought that Christina's vocals on the tracks made Primo's beats even better.

check out the 'still dirty' beat and imagine guru rapping on it 8)

haha I was just actually listening to that song!  And yeah I can definitely imagine Guru on that track but it's always nice to hear some singing on a Primo beat, I think that Christina is the first to actually do that (first I've ever heard.)
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 10:58:43 AM »
True, he's never changed his style, but does that necessarily mean he's outdated? Go listen to Lil Jon or Timbaland, do they actually impress you with their production? Primo can drop a song today that has the same style of one he did 10 years but what's important is that it still bumps.
 

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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 11:16:32 AM »
True, he's never changed his style, but does that necessarily mean he's outdated? Go listen to Lil Jon or Timbaland, do they actually impress you with their production? Primo can drop a song today that has the same style of one he did 10 years but what's important is that it still bumps.

right I agree, and no those guys don't impress me at all with their production but I'm just comparing the modern "sound" to Primo's that's all.
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 11:26:20 AM »
i agree with everyone
Does his beats sound the same since 1998 ? Yes
Is he Overrated ? no Outdated ? Hell no
 

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 11:29:46 AM »
never overrated or outdated his shit still go hard that latest track he did the beat for Bun B that shit bangs and no one can scratch and sample the way he does premos beats are prolly theeee most recognizable in all of hip hop imo
 

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 11:34:06 AM »
True, he's never changed his style, but does that necessarily mean he's outdated? Go listen to Lil Jon or Timbaland, do they actually impress you with their production? Primo can drop a song today that has the same style of one he did 10 years but what's important is that it still bumps.
Pretty much how I feel.
 

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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 11:48:38 AM »
His beat he gave Bun B was maaaaaad weak , though .
 

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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 01:10:03 PM »
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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 01:37:16 PM »
Outdated???? HELL NO, im still bumping shit Premo made more than 20 years ago, in no way in hell is he outdated........Look at Lil' Jon and his style of production, NOW THATS OUTDATED LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER
 

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 02:40:22 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 02:41:56 PM »
He's dope but not the best because he's only stuck to one style.
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Re: DJ Premier- Overrated or Just Outdated?
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 07:20:21 PM »
Do you guys know how you can tell when a track was made sometimes just based on the sound [not the mixing] of the beat?   Preme just stayed with his sound, which I like to call "Classic".   You know why Christina fit over Preme's shit?  Cuz she sounds classic, she woulda made it as an artist if she was born 50 years earlier. 

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 09:43:06 PM »
Overrated a bit but hes dope
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 10:22:44 PM »
DJ Premier is one of the best producers in Hip-Hop period. but lately his beats do sound outdated. The last crazy beat I remember from him was the one for Fat Joe, "that white."
 

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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 10:51:08 PM »
i never likes him that much. he got some dope beats,but i don like hes same ol same sound.
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 10:53:54 PM »
Probably been debated on here a lot but I want to make it more interesting.  For me, the short answer would be that he's outdated.  He's never changed his sound, it's 2010 and his stuff sounds like it's 98.  Now that's my opinion, and some people also think that but they then say that he's overrated.  People think that Primo is overrated just because he's outdated.  Clearly he is outdated in the mainstream world, with producers like Timbaland, DJ Khaled, Kanye, Pharrell, Just Blaze, Lil John etc. (not saying that these guys are better, but I'm talking in terms of sound.)  If you compare the music that has come out during the last few years to Primo's last few years of making tracks, you can clearly hear a difference between them.  And when you hear them, it sounds like Primo's stuff is totally outdated since you just hear those similar sounding kicks and snares (he's got some different ones but now a days, they sound the same,) and he always uses those 70's samples.  Personally, Primo should change up his style a little bit so that he can attract a bigger audience.  But does having the same sound mean that you're overrated?  Absolutely not.  To me, that's just how great producers are remembered and revered for.  Like when you think of Dr. Dre you think of G-Funk and with Primo you think of his legendary chopping and scratching skills.  So what do you guys think, is Primo overrated or is he just outdated? 
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