Truth is, if BIG was still alive he wouldn't be any better then Rick Ross is now

[Man On The Moon]

It's no secret that Biggie is overrated, but c'mon son! Ross is garbage...

[Chamillitary Click]

Rick Ross is in the same company as Fat Joe, Gucci Mane & Lil' B.

cham yet again provin that he a fuckin child. fat joe might not be so great now but he was a great rapper and made some good records (when he was rollin with ditc). so maybe learn a little bit more about hip-hop before u believe whatever shit 50 is saying to create dumbass beef.

What does that mean? Based God, once again proving he's fucking retarded lol. If you're ass today, you're ass. You brought up 50 Cent, you'd probably say he's ass & he isn't that good today. But because he made Power Of A Dollar & Get Rich or Die Tryin' we're not allowed to talk? I swear, some of you guys aren't sane.

EDIT: I find it entertaining the guy who believes Lil' B is some sort of prophet, with words of wisdom we should all listen to & live by, is calling me a child lmfao.

[Chamillitary Click]

As for this "If Biggie was still alive, he would have sold out", I always believed that.

But even if that was the case, I don't care if Big had a stroke after that & was paralyzed on his entire left side, he would still be better than Rick Ross.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

BIG isn't even top 5



5 rappers that are easily better then BIG: Ice Cube, DOC, KRS, Nas, Pac




most of you are sheep to the hype that he had after he died, his death has made everything he did seem "better", it's hard for hip hop fans to look at him objectively

Big ain't top 5, so what? Nas, Pac, Cube, KRS, yeah. DOC? Lol, hell nah, DOC is overrated as fuck around here.

Big ain't top 5, but he's still above average. Rick Ross is below average. They aren't close to the same level, even taking away Big's incredible flow.

[Jimmy H.]

most of you are sheep to the hype that he had after he died, his death has made everything he did seem "better", it's hard for hip hop fans to look at him objectively

The same can be said of 2Pac or any rapper that died. Or any rapper that is mainstream. There's cats who want to make them bigger than life and then there's other folks who wantt o shit all over what they've done to "even things out".

[BOX5 the best poster on this site yell]

d.o.c. hella overrated,jayz hella overrated, leonard roberts is not nice on the mic,alot of muthafuccas on this site like BEATS! so they like roberts beats and think that makes him good,how fucc'n stupid are some of y'all, its the same reason muthafuccas like dr dre! dre has said a gang of wacc as rhymes hell listen to keep they heads ringing! and then somebody says all big talks about is guns and bitches and drugs? so what, that equal told stories and spit shit that was different, some of you same muthafuccas succ off jeezy and the clips and all they talk about is fucc'n DRUGS!, biggie came out during the month of the man def jam's big marketing push for redman and method man,they got all the hype and big just came out and blew them muthafuccas outta the water, it ain't just his flow it's his word play, hell em says a gang of bullshit kiddy shit and y'all say he's the best lets get serious, big did shit to expand his fan base with the second album sure and it worked and he didn't sound outta place doing it (which is a true skill), just cause some of yall ain't like the song it means he's overrated? haha get the fucc outta here, equals still quote'n that man, jayz owe's like 15% of his career earnings to big estate yell

[The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES]

Ice cube and DOC dont rate higher than Big for me..

[Detox Iz Not Active]

DOC is now overrated? LMAO, now I know for a fact you niggas stupid ass fuck




Let's take a trip but not of the physical
Sense of direction on a kid who's artistical
Through a gallery of thoughts, of course it's dope
Pay it tough like the name on my rope
Watch it be weary instead of steppin wit the boys
A musical massacre of inadequate noise
By the new authority 'cause of majority
Of peers who hear will award superiority
To those who know you knew now it's inevitable
I laid the track and it's simple unforgettable
Time had hold me better than gold, I sold
And in front of a group of soul is a new episode
So like see if you can grab a pawn yet another one
Take it to the everyday like it's done the son
Words connected up to another degree
And if an artist who planned it there, portrait of a masterpiece
It's unquestionable
The lyrics used, the D.O.C.'s a professional
Nothing exquisite to prohibit you from listening up
Crisp and clean but I don't mean 7-Up
I preside ill dippy dope to frantic to panic
And just a man on a mission wit something more in the attic
I'm just an ordinary, faring very few
Do it to the mic, is the D.O. to the C., you
Made the choice that doesn't need to pretend
I'm on the extend, I know about the ?(elevator end)?
But anytime between I'm spinning
Play strong, write it like it never ending
Keep creating while suckers are hating me now
Keep the upper hand 'cause the respond is gonna plow
No one can handle the physical torture
I've been taking and no matter what, I'll support'cha
Goals and dreams although is seems it won't come true
All of that is up to you, yo
But if you can't handle
You need a check, 'cause rap's like a gamble
Basically outspoken, keeping them choking on
But you recall, yo, a helluva rap song
Doing it forever together wit Dre, it will never cease
Plenty of records like "Portrait of a Masterpiece"
Not an exceptionalist
Sort of the norm, walking and holding my testicles
?(swoon for a six)?, spell out what it means to be dope
The D.O. to the C., they can't cope
Deal the real, yo, it's better 'cause I had to be
Better than any 'cause of majority
Negative never, I'm all about a positive force if you recall
It's the D.O.C. on the ball
Rap much greater, Dre upon the fader
Pump the bass and the pace
Most like by the D.O.C and this is it
'Cause when it's hype, then I feel that it's the shit
Word, never would I stop, I drop the beat I will
Especialy when I have to kill
I'm an annihilator, standing a full 6' 3
And I really don't think you wanna deal wit me
Potrait of a, watch out, I'll go..

[David Mack]

Notorious Thugs >>>>>>>> Rick Ross's whole career

[The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES]

DOC's delivery is ass..  His lyrics are good tho..

[Detox Iz Not Active]

DOC's delivery is ass..  His lyrics are good tho..

now I see why you Budden stan, it all makes sense now

[The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES]

If you are rating Ice Cube above Big, you aren't taking into account just lyrics then.  Cuz Cube's lyrics is generic and average as hell.

With DOC, he had the lyrics, but his delivery/charisma wasn't always there...  So he's not overrated really

[The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES]

DOC's delivery is ass..  His lyrics are good tho..

now I see why you Budden stan, it all makes sense now

Why you getting angry again? We ain't talking about Budden.. Stop taking a personal jab.  Stay focused soldier!

[Detox Iz Not Active]

If you are rating Ice Cube above Big, you aren't taking into account just lyrics then.  Cuz Cube's lyrics is generic and average as hell.

With DOC, he had the lyrics, but his delivery/charisma wasn't always there...  So he's not overrated really

Cube's lyrics are average as hell?  seriously, it's obvious as hell you have NEVER head Cube's first 4-5 albums he worked on, so you can shut your ass up now

[The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES]

If you are rating Ice Cube above Big, you aren't taking into account just lyrics then.  Cuz Cube's lyrics is generic and average as hell.

With DOC, he had the lyrics, but his delivery/charisma wasn't always there...  So he's not overrated really

Cube's lyrics are average as hell?  seriously, it's obvious as hell you have NEVER head Cube's first 4-5 albums he worked on, so you can shut your ass up now

LOL. Do you not know I grew up on west coast hip-hop, then later transitioned to the east?   Of course I've heard them.  I could call you out for being a Cube stan for having him in ur sig, but I ain't that shallow.   Cube's lyrics are average man.  That doesn't mean he doesn't have a killer flow and delivery that makes him a good artist....

This whole thread is about you rating Rick Ross over Big, so maybe you should be the one speaking no louder.