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http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/05/cia_group_had_wacky_ideas_to_d.html?hpid=news-col-blog

CIA unit's wacky idea: Depict Saddam as gay
During planning for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the CIA's Iraq Operations Group kicked around a number of ideas for discrediting Saddam Hussein in the eyes of his people.

One was to create a video purporting to show the Iraqi dictator having sex with a teenage boy, according to two former CIA officials familiar with the project.

“It would look like it was taken by a hidden camera,” said one of the former officials. “Very grainy, like it was a secret videotaping of a sex session.”

The idea was to then “flood Iraq with the videos,” the former official said.

Another idea was to interrupt Iraqi television programming with a fake special news bulletin. An actor playing Hussein would announce that he was stepping down in favor of his (much-reviled) son Uday.

“I’m sure you will throw your support behind His Excellency Uday,” the fake Hussein would intone.

The spy agency’s Office of Technical Services collaborated on the ideas, which also included inserting fake “crawls” -- messages at the bottom of the screen -- into Iraqi newscasts.

The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said.


Eventually, “things ground to a halt,” the other former officer said, because no one could come to agreement on the projects.

They also faced strong opposition from James Pavitt, then head of the agency’s Operations Division, and his deputy, Hugh Turner, who “kept throwing darts at it.”

The ideas were patently ridiculous, said the other former agency officer.

“They came from people whose careers were spent in Latin America or East Asia” and didn’t understand the cultural nuances of the region.

“Saddam playing with boys would have no resonance in the Middle East -- nobody cares,” agreed a third former CIA official with extensive experience in the region. “Trying to mount such a campaign would show a total misunderstanding of the target. We always mistake our own taboos as universal when, in fact, they are just our taboos.”

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to confirm the accounts, or deny them.

"While I can't confirm these accounts, if these ideas were ever floated by anyone at any time, they clearly didn't go anywhere," the official said.

The reality, the former officials said, was that the agency really didn’t have enough money and expertise to carry out the projects.

“The military took them over,” said one. “They had assets in psy-war down at Ft. Bragg,” at the army’s special warfare center.

“The agency got rid of most of its non-paramilitary covert action in the 1980s, after Bill Casey died,” said the third former official. “He was a big fan of covert action, but neither Bob Gates, who succeeded him as acting [CIA] director, or any after him, wanted anything to do with it.”

“There was a flurry of activity during the first Gulf War,” the official added, “but [Gen. Norman] Schwarzkopf made it clear he had to approve everything, and he basically approved nothing, except, reluctantly at first, surrender leaflets. By the late '90s there were very few people left who knew anything about covert action or how to do it. “

The leaflets also had “unintended consequences,” the former official added.

“In the perverted logic of Iraq, the Iraqi soldiers decided they had to have a leaflet to surrender, so they fought us to get one."

According to histories of the 2003 invasion, the single most effective “information warfare” project, which originated in the Pentagon, was to send faxes and e-mails to Iraqi unit commanders as the fighting began, telling them their situation was hopeless, to round up their tanks, artillery and men, and go home.
Many did.


More evidence from a mainstream source of the US faking videos.

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pretty sure all muslims are pedophiles
 

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just like all catholic priests.. all over the world they're getting exposed..
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just like all catholic priests.. all over the world they're getting exposed..
i dont mean those with power and abusing it, i mean ALL muslims in the world. i mean the ultimate reward for a muslim is a bunch of young virgin girls, its right there in their bullshit book
 

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just like all catholic priests.. all over the world they're getting exposed..
i dont mean those with power and abusing it, i mean ALL muslims in the world. i mean the ultimate reward for a muslim is a bunch of young virgin girls, its right there in their bullshit book

Wrong. And the "BS" book also contains parts from the Torah and Bible.
      
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I understand that there are a lot of muslim extremists who say they believe they act as god's disciples.

I have made the reference once before, but the movie Valley Of The Wolves has opened my mind a little bit to this matter.

A scene starts where a couple of iraqi soldiers have captured an American journalist, and they wanted to film him while they chop off his head. Just as they want to kill him, a very important religious person steps into the room, and asks for an explanation. They respond by saying he's American, and all Americans are sent here to harm their people and way of life (I don't know the exact words anymore). The religious man tells them that this is nonsense, and orders them to untie him. When he is free, the imam gives him a sword, and points at the man who first held the sword.
"Kill him", he said. The man grabbed the sword, looked at the soldier, then to the imam, and threw away the sword. At that moment the imam looked at the soldier and said, "There is no harm in this man". The point of course is that not all people are bad, and that religion is about peace. The iraqis have been scared because of the things that the Americans have done in their country, so they retaliate. Then they call them terrorists, so it's an excuse to invade and kill.

This may not make sense to all of you, but I know for a fact that religion is only ruined by those who take it seriously. Religion is in your heart, not in your head. That's where a LOT of people go wrong.
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Islam, Christianity, Judaism are all centrally controlled by the same people. Those people at the absolute top are pedo.
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just like all catholic priests.. all over the world they're getting exposed..
i dont mean those with power and abusing it, i mean ALL muslims in the world. i mean the ultimate reward for a muslim is a bunch of young virgin girls, its right there in their bullshit book

Wrong. And the "BS" book also contains parts from the Torah and Bible.

joke Response: Two Religion were Pedophiles are protected by there Religious higher ups....yeah totally not bs

Real Response: Either way Religion it's self seems to be derived from a multitude of places, and what about the times Pre-Religion, before any of these religions even had a book, before the birth of there Profits??? where the people before just fucked then???

Before these Religions there was different major ones, hell Christianity, the bible and everything associated was considered Paganism. So how is these Ideas any more holy or anymore correct then the previous generations???? People love to clown Scientology for being weird and a "Cult".

When there very own religion was viewed the same way at a point in history. So the idea of Religion is false, It's all fake because it's nothing more then a Incarnation of The Writer belief, which might not even be the original copy. The "Editions" of the BIble, Koran, Tora is nothing more then a Chopped up version of the original Writer view, as such the Religions Text becomes False because the full idea and Supposed Word of God is cut up, in a Blasphemous shortening.

After all God's Word is suppose to hold more then anything, his word is Law and His instruction to be followed, and that's essentially what religion is based around. I got my own personal theories on God, the Universe and such, but this isn't the thread for it.
 

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And the "BS" book also contains parts from the Torah and Bible.
wow that really proves its not bullshit haha
 

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Islam, Christianity, Judaism are all centrally controlled by the same people. Those people at the absolute top are peso.
Wouldn't surprise me. Just look at the Pope. He has more power over people than most presidents and prime ministers in the world.
 

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just like all catholic priests.. all over the world they're getting exposed..
i dont mean those with power and abusing it, i mean ALL muslims in the world. i mean the ultimate reward for a muslim is a bunch of young virgin girls, its right there in their bullshit book

Wrong. And the "BS" book also contains parts from the Torah and Bible.

joke Response: Two Religion were Pedophiles are protected by there Religious higher ups....yeah totally not bs

Real Response: Either way Religion it's self seems to be derived from a multitude of places, and what about the times Pre-Religion, before any of these religions even had a book, before the birth of there Profits??? where the people before just fucked then???

Before these Religions there was different major ones, hell Christianity, the bible and everything associated was considered Paganism. So how is these Ideas any more holy or anymore correct then the previous generations???? People love to clown Scientology for being weird and a "Cult".

When there very own religion was viewed the same way at a point in history. So the idea of Religion is false, It's all fake because it's nothing more then a Incarnation of The Writer belief, which might not even be the original copy. The "Editions" of the BIble, Koran, Tora is nothing more then a Chopped up version of the original Writer view, as such the Religions Text becomes False because the full idea and Supposed Word of God is cut up, in a Blasphemous shortening.

After all God's Word is suppose to hold more then anything, his word is Law and His instruction to be followed, and that's essentially what religion is based around. I got my own personal theories on God, the Universe and such, but this isn't the thread for it.

Islamic belief is that there were 124,000 Prophets throughout times, the first being Adam. That's for a different though.

I'm not trying to argue whether religion exits, which religion is 'right', etc. If somebody doesn't believe in religion, I respect that. That's their belief. But I'd expect the same respect back. My point of replying was because somebody claiming all Muslims all pedophiles is a false point of view.


And the "BS" book also contains parts from the Torah and Bible.
wow that really proves its not bullshit haha

Good. Glad you agree.
      
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Islam, Christianity, Judaism are all centrally controlled by the same people. Those people at the absolute top are peso.
Wouldn't surprise me. Just look at the Pope. He has more power over people than most presidents and prime ministers in the world.

fail for thinking presidents have power.
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Islam, Christianity, Judaism are all centrally controlled by the same people. Those people at the absolute top are peso.
Wouldn't surprise me. Just look at the Pope. He has more power over people than most presidents and prime ministers in the world.

fail for thinking presidents have power.
You might want to read that again, buddy.
 

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Pretty sure orchestrating 9/11 is enough for America and the rest of the civilized world to not like Bin Laden.

Glad to see the CIA does do certain things for lulz though.
 

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Pretty sure orchestrating 9/11 is enough for America and the rest of the civilized world to not like Bin Laden.

Glad to see the CIA does do certain things for lulz though.

Ignorance is bliss nigga. These bloodsucking leeches have admitted to making false accusations to further the global mobilization agenda. What makes you think that the so called "smoking gun" videos that are cited as proof of Bin Ladens guilt are not phony? It looks like you still believe in that con man obama so it probably won't hit home for you.
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