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Re: The REAL thing/song that killed Hip-Hop...
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2010, 07:44:39 PM »
naa man, we killed hiphop. when we stopped buying quality music like Rakim, KRS , Warren or any other ones who are considered "old" to public, of course the labels aren't gon waste their money on something that cant profit themselves. we can't blame the labels cause that's business, you don't spend ur money on shit that wont get ur money back.
 

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2010, 10:16:06 PM »
naa man, we killed hiphop. when we stopped buying quality music like Rakim, KRS , Warren or any other ones who are considered "old" to public, of course the labels aren't gon waste their money on something that cant profit themselves. we can't blame the labels cause that's business, you don't spend ur money on shit that wont get ur money back.


I was gonna say somethin until you put that last part in there about the Labels investing money.  And those artists you mentioned are your personal taste in music and your idea of quality, not everybody elses.  Warren G had like 1 good album (and he didn't even Rap on all of tha 12 track album).
 

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« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2010, 01:11:10 AM »
Puff Daddy fucked it up...Mr Shiny Suit
 

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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2010, 01:31:41 AM »
the people killing hip-hop are the fans who whine about a bygone era and done even bother searching for all the great rap music that is still being made today.

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« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2010, 09:58:48 AM »
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
 

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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2010, 10:24:57 AM »
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
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« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2010, 12:12:05 PM »
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
There are no people who fit this profile on here.
Unless you include the pac stans.


i'm surprised you havent seen em.  There's Action, Midwestryder, ChamillAhScary Bitch, Enyce (and a few others on here alone), and a gang of other random ppl who pop up on the internet and constantly day by day compare the Old Skool 2 tha New.  They might not be in as big of numbers as before but best believe these fuckers are still alive and kickin', it's just that alotta ppl ignore that shit becuz its not true.  This thread is definitely one for sure *that's an insult to my intelligence too just saying that*.  And i dont believe in there is such a thing as a Pac stan.  I think SOME ppl are too quick to pass Pac off becuz Pac was from the Old Skool and everybody loved Pac.  Out of all of tha 2Pac dedicated fans to ever hit tha internet I dont think Ive ever seen any1 be over obsessed and delusional about 2Pac.  It's just some ppl arent as enthusiastic about Pac anymore and want everybody else to move on too.  
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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2010, 01:04:33 PM »
the people killing hip-hop are the fans who whine about a bygone era and done even bother searching for all the great rap music that is still being made today.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2010, 01:18:32 PM »
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
There are no people who fit this profile on here.
Unless you include the pac stans.


i'm surprised you havent seen em.  There's Action, Midwestryder, ChamillAhScary Bitch, Enyce (and a few others on here alone), and a gang of other random ppl who pop up on the internet and constantly day by day compare the Old Skool 2 tha New.  They might not be in as big of numbers as before but best believe these fuckers are still alive and kickin', it's just that alotta ppl ignore that shit becuz its not true.  This thread is definitely one for sure *that's an insult to my intelligence too just saying that*.  And i dont believe in there is such a thing as a Pac stan.  I think SOME ppl are too quick to pass Pac off becuz Pac was from the Old Skool and everybody loved Pac.  Out of all of tha 2Pac dedicated fans to ever hit tha internet I dont think Ive ever seen any1 be over obsessed and delusional about 2Pac.  It's just some ppl arent as enthusiastic about Pac anymore and want everybody else to move on too.  
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
There are no people who fit this profile on here.
Unless you include the pac stans.


i'm surprised you havent seen em.  There's Action, Midwestryder, ChamillAhScary Bitch, Enyce (and a few others on here alone), and a gang of other random ppl who pop up on the internet and constantly day by day compare the Old Skool 2 tha New.  They might not be in as big of numbers as before but best believe these fuckers are still alive and kickin', it's just that alotta ppl ignore that shit becuz its not true.  This thread is definitely one for sure *that's an insult to my intelligence too just saying that*.  And i dont believe in there is such a thing as a Pac stan.  I think SOME ppl are too quick to pass Pac off becuz Pac was from the Old Skool and everybody loved Pac.  Out of all of tha 2Pac dedicated fans to ever hit tha internet I dont think Ive ever seen any1 be over obsessed and delusional about 2Pac.  It's just some ppl arent as enthusiastic about Pac anymore and want everybody else to move on too. 
midwestryder is a troll.

The others, not really.

You're probably over saturating your 'profile'.

The reason a lot of 90s artist get more respect is because well, 20 years has past and we still remember them.
There were plenty of lesser rappers back then but we forgot about them so they're not being discussed.
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.

And you need to differentiate Hip-Hop from Trap, you can't possibly expect hip-hop fans to enjoy gucci the same way they do ill bill.
 

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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2010, 01:49:42 PM »
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
There are no people who fit this profile on here.
Unless you include the pac stans.


i'm surprised you havent seen em.  There's Action, Midwestryder, ChamillAhScary Bitch, Enyce (and a few others on here alone), and a gang of other random ppl who pop up on the internet and constantly day by day compare the Old Skool 2 tha New.  They might not be in as big of numbers as before but best believe these fuckers are still alive and kickin', it's just that alotta ppl ignore that shit becuz its not true.  This thread is definitely one for sure *that's an insult to my intelligence too just saying that*.  And i dont believe in there is such a thing as a Pac stan.  I think SOME ppl are too quick to pass Pac off becuz Pac was from the Old Skool and everybody loved Pac.  Out of all of tha 2Pac dedicated fans to ever hit tha internet I dont think Ive ever seen any1 be over obsessed and delusional about 2Pac.  It's just some ppl arent as enthusiastic about Pac anymore and want everybody else to move on too.  
Im pretty much cosignin wit Screw on this 1.  Its like an insult to ur intelligence wen ppl say shit like that, like every single piece of music was Pure Gold from tha 90`s and everything now is just a half ass attempt at making music.  I think we should all get together and care 4 our old and sickly ex hip hop stuck in tha pre 2000`s fans, they seriously need our help 2 guide them and coach them and help them grow all over again 4 sum reasin.
There are no people who fit this profile on here.
Unless you include the pac stans.


i'm surprised you havent seen em.  There's Action, Midwestryder, ChamillAhScary Bitch, Enyce (and a few others on here alone), and a gang of other random ppl who pop up on the internet and constantly day by day compare the Old Skool 2 tha New.  They might not be in as big of numbers as before but best believe these fuckers are still alive and kickin', it's just that alotta ppl ignore that shit becuz its not true.  This thread is definitely one for sure *that's an insult to my intelligence too just saying that*.  And i dont believe in there is such a thing as a Pac stan.  I think SOME ppl are too quick to pass Pac off becuz Pac was from the Old Skool and everybody loved Pac.  Out of all of tha 2Pac dedicated fans to ever hit tha internet I dont think Ive ever seen any1 be over obsessed and delusional about 2Pac.  It's just some ppl arent as enthusiastic about Pac anymore and want everybody else to move on too. 
midwestryder is a troll.

The others, not really.

You're probably over saturating your 'profile'.

The reason a lot of 90s artist get more respect is because well, 20 years has past and we still remember them.
There were plenty of lesser rappers back then but we forgot about them so they're not being discussed.
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.

And you need to differentiate Hip-Hop from Trap, you can't possibly expect hip-hop fans to enjoy gucci the same way they do ill bill.


trap rap is still a part of hip-hop, lets not pretend otherwise. and of course they arent going to enjoy it in the same way, gucci is fun party music that bangs, ill bill is a lil more serious than that. it doesnt make one better then the other, its just different. i enjoy both, but i dont feel a need to differentiate it other than what mood im in. its all hip-hop at the end of the day and i love it

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Re: The REAL thing/song that killed Hip-Hop...
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2010, 02:13:53 PM »
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.

WORD. How many of these new rappers actually stick around long enough to accomplish something? Why should we put them on a pedestal against proven vets of the game, when common sense says they will be irrelevant in a couple years? 

Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does. All he does is namedrop the same 5 mainstream rappers who most people consider wack. I remember a year ago he was riding for rappers who have since disappeared off the face of the earth.
 

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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2010, 04:27:33 PM »
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.
Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does. All he does is namedrop the same 5 mainstream rappers who most people consider wack.


lmao, oh no u didnt


and yes i did, Lil' Glock & SOG will never die!  and my profile is saturated with tha goodness, u should enjoy while u can get it fresh now!
 

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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2010, 05:46:56 PM »
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.
Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does. All he does is namedrop the same 5 mainstream rappers who most people consider wack.


lmao, oh no u didnt


and yes i did, Lil' Glock & SOG will never die!  and my profile is saturated with tha goodness, u should enjoy while u can get it fresh now!

Where's Webbie and Lil Boosie? Remember last year they were in your top 10?
 

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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2010, 11:43:40 PM »
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.
Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does. All he does is namedrop the same 5 mainstream rappers who most people consider wack.


lmao, oh no u didnt


and yes i did, Lil' Glock & SOG will never die!  and my profile is saturated with tha goodness, u should enjoy while u can get it fresh now!

Where's Webbie and Lil Boosie? Remember last year they were in your top 10?
And look on page 1, all of those snap artists have been completely forgotten already.
 

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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2010, 12:14:52 AM »
Radiotube once said that Young Jeezy is on the same level as Nas' Illmatic, don't even bother talking to this guy; his Hip Hop pass has been revoked.

Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does.

LOL, tell me not! The only reason he accuses us of "hatin' on tha new skool" is because a majority of people don't like the five guys who are his idols. I basically co-sign everybody in the game but Gucci, Jeezy, Ross, Soulja Boy & people of that caliber. But of course Radiotube has to act like those guys are Pac reincarnated & not liking them is a total "lame" thing to say.
 

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« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2010, 12:44:52 AM »
Radiotube once said that Young Jeezy is on the same level as Nas' Illmatic, don't even bother talking to this guy; his Hip Hop pass has been revoked.

Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does.

LOL, tell me not! The only reason he accuses us of "hatin' on tha new skool" is because a majority of people don't like the five guys who are his idols. I basically co-sign everybody in the game but Gucci, Jeezy, Ross, Soulja Boy & people of that caliber. But of course Radiotube has to act like those guys are Pac reincarnated & not liking them is a total "lame" thing to say.

lol I remember when he said that Gucci Mane could make an album better than illmatic.
 

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« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2010, 08:04:56 AM »
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.
Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does. All he does is namedrop the same 5 mainstream rappers who most people consider wack.


lmao, oh no u didnt


and yes i did, Lil' Glock & SOG will never die!  and my profile is saturated with tha goodness, u should enjoy while u can get it fresh now!

Where's Webbie and Lil Boosie? Remember last year they were in your top 10?

lil boosie fuckin rules and released a lot of quality music last year, hes actually in prison tied to some murder or something. so dont go actin like he fell off

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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2010, 08:12:58 AM »
I remember when RadioTube said all of yall were on his nuts.  Looks like he was right again.



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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2010, 08:58:29 AM »
I remember when RadioTube said all of yall were on his nuts.  Looks like he was right again.

Funny...considering you name dropped me on page one of this thread before I even posted anything.

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Anyway, back to the topic on hand. I know most of you would say there has been tons of songs back at the start of Hip Hop that were like the ones we all bitch about today, but part of me believes the start of Hip Hop's mainstream "slide" was 50 Cent's "Candyshop".

Don't get me wrong, I actually got love for that song. But I don't know, was a big sellout-ish for 50 Cent at the time & it was strictly for woman. Then D4L came out with "Laffy Taffy" & it was basically an AWFUL spinoff of "Candyshop" with a bunch of candy references. Then the rest of the industry realized you can make some snap, dance song & sell millions & that's the route people started to take.

EDIT: Somebody said earlier in the thread that "people act like mainstream artists today make 'half-assed' music" & in a sense, they really are. They are going to do what sells to woman from the ages of 13-30 and kids from the age of 10-15 (and even older in some cases). Like "Crank That". Even if you say "C'monnn, that's a fun song at a club", sure, whatever; but it doesn't change the fact it's still some bullshit thrown that was thrown together in about thirty-two minutes.
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« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2010, 09:02:17 AM »
The better rappers of this era who will be remembered will be on the same level as the old school artist you refer to.
Radiotube thinks we're stuck in the 90s, funny cause I probably listen to more current hip hop than he does. All he does is namedrop the same 5 mainstream rappers who most people consider wack.


lmao, oh no u didnt


and yes i did, Lil' Glock & SOG will never die!  and my profile is saturated with tha goodness, u should enjoy while u can get it fresh now!

Where's Webbie and Lil Boosie? Remember last year they were in your top 10?

lil boosie fuckin rules and released a lot of quality music last year, hes actually in prison tied to some murder or something. so dont go actin like he fell off

actually I'm not even sure if he was on to begin with. But safe to say whatever attention he had before is gone.
 

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« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2010, 09:19:23 AM »
actually I'm not even sure if he was on to begin with. But safe to say whatever attention he had before is gone.
And this when he is in trial for muder, that should be the best publicity ever.
 

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« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2010, 10:32:51 AM »
it seems a lot of people on this board will bend over backwards just to make things fit their agrument, sad really. ok so you dont like boosie but how is the murder trial going to act as publicity for him? he cant get out to record music, hes looking to do at least 7 years i heard, so there is nothing to have publicity for. of course his attention is gone, he cant make any more music! youre acting as if this validates you not liking him, as if the reason no-one is talking about him is cos hes whack, but its really cos there is no more music to hear from him so why talk about him.

i dont know what kinda shit radiotube has done since i havent been posting here as long as yall, but believe me youre acting like bigger assholes.

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« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2010, 10:36:15 AM »
free Boosie, that new album that just dropped had a few decent tracks on it
 

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2010, 10:44:27 AM »
^I'd say it's more along the lines that he's just wack lol.

that new album that just dropped had a few decent tracks on it

Fair enough. See that's what I want to hear. "Few decent tracks". If you like some of his music fine. Actually, if you like all of his music fine. But don't turn around & say somebody whose obviously suprior is wack lol.

Radiotube has said Jeezy & Gucci can make Illmatic type music & he said Premo wasn't that good of a producer & then co-signs Soulja Boy. This Screwface guy says Joe Budden "got lyrics", but nothing else. But CLEARLY Joe & hundreds of other rappers are better than Lil' Boosie in every aspect of rapping besides sounding like somebody shoved something up his ass.

Seriously, Screw. What ON EARTH does Lil' Boosie do that makes him good?
 

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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2010, 10:47:25 AM »
yeah don't get me wrong, I always did like Boosie since way back when he was on Smack DVD's just cuz his voice was very charismatic and his albums usually will have a handful of nice tracks to bump but overall I'm not listening to him for any thought provoking lyrics or hard spitting but he does have a good flow