Kush is a weak single for Dre because it has no class

[Sir Petey]

too many ppl butthurt over an album that has yet to drop.

you guys are setting your self up for heartbreak like a john sprung over a hooker.

[Matty]

We will look back in a few years and call Kush a dope record, why it's not as good as what i expected from Dre - it's 124362452 times better than most of the other shit on the radio.

nah, i'd rather bump the unfinished Shit Popped Off Demo over this. there should still be some dope tracks on the album, but 'I Need A Doctor' isn't one either. so it comes down to hoping more than 3/4 of the joints on Detox are up to scratch. thing is 2001 had a really cohesive sound. we'll see, but at the mo it seems like Dre is watering his shit down to please the 'office' peeps. weak.

Alright alright! Im' just saying I been reading alot of threads on dre and so far its been the same on most ends people complaining they don't like the new Dre like when people were complaining they didin't like the new Quik sound with Kurupt the Blackout! People need to open their eyes to real artistry when they are trying to expand their talent and work with new sounds and create something differnt then doing the same thing that they already done!

Dre obviously has some crazy new sounds and beats stashed away but it seems we'll have to wait on the actual album to hear 'em Game's 'Make Up Sex' has ridiculous drums, much better than Kush. and Quik's Blaqkout still has the best production of any west coast album in the past couple of years, imo.

review thread http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=247230.0

[westcoastriders]

We will look back in a few years and call Kush a dope record, why it's not as good as what i expected from Dre - it's 124362452 times better than most of the other shit on the radio.

nah, i'd rather bump the unfinished Shit Popped Off Demo over this. there should still be some dope tracks on the album, but 'I Need A Doctor' isn't one either. so it comes down to hoping more than 3/4 of the joints on Detox are up to scratch. thing is 2001 had a really cohesive sound. we'll see, but at the mo it seems like Dre is watering his shit down to please the 'office' peeps. weak.

Alright alright! Im' just saying I been reading alot of threads on dre and so far its been the same on most ends people complaining they don't like the new Dre like when people were complaining they didin't like the new Quik sound with Kurupt the Blackout! People need to open their eyes to real artistry when they are trying to expand their talent and work with new sounds and create something differnt then doing the same thing that they already done!

Dre obviously has some crazy new sounds and beats stashed away but it seems we'll have to wait on the actual album to hear 'em Game's 'Make Up Sex' has ridiculous drums, much better than Kush. and Quik's Blaqkout still has the best production of any west coast album in the past couple of years, imo.

review thread http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=247230.0

Thats right I like Quiks track fuck yall!! Thats banging right there. I give a fuck what anybody says!

[Matty]

We will look back in a few years and call Kush a dope record, why it's not as good as what i expected from Dre - it's 124362452 times better than most of the other shit on the radio.

nah, i'd rather bump the unfinished Shit Popped Off Demo over this. there should still be some dope tracks on the album, but 'I Need A Doctor' isn't one either. so it comes down to hoping more than 3/4 of the joints on Detox are up to scratch. thing is 2001 had a really cohesive sound. we'll see, but at the mo it seems like Dre is watering his shit down to please the 'office' peeps. weak.

Alright alright! Im' just saying I been reading alot of threads on dre and so far its been the same on most ends people complaining they don't like the new Dre like when people were complaining they didin't like the new Quik sound with Kurupt the Blackout! People need to open their eyes to real artistry when they are trying to expand their talent and work with new sounds and create something differnt then doing the same thing that they already done!

Dre obviously has some crazy new sounds and beats stashed away but it seems we'll have to wait on the actual album to hear 'em Game's 'Make Up Sex' has ridiculous drums, much better than Kush. and Quik's Blaqkout still has the best production of any west coast album in the past couple of years, imo.

review thread http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=247230.0

Thats right I like Quiks track fuck yall!! Thats banging right there. I give a fuck what anybody says!

i think everyone loved that track! just Blaqkout had quite a few cuts that divided opinion and led to most people calling the whole thing average/poor. But Fuck Y'all, Cream N Ya Panties, Hey Playa, The Appeal - incredible

[Will_B]

i think everyone loved that track! just Blaqkout had quite a few cuts that divided opinion and led to most people calling the whole thing average/poor. But Fuck Y'all, Cream N Ya Panties, Hey Playa, The Appeal - incredible

Agreed. I love the BlaQKout album from start to finish - it is what it is. When it dropped, it was the best Westcoast release since the incredible Westurn Union/Crazy Toones 'House Shoe Musik Vol. 1' (pure dopeness, and essential listening for West Coast fans)

[Furor Teutonicus]

Of course it has no class, Dre is an old man, he should be doing sth different than songs about weed. This Gangster Rap formula is played out, I would expect from Cube, Dre et al sth. innovative...
It's embarassing... Instead of showing some maturity they still have to act Gangsta in front of their die hard fans they got left.
 

how is smoking weed gangsta?

its not about it being gangsta, but when u hit a certain age, there are some stuff that u cant really say or do, you get more mature . smoking weed may look good when ur young but when you are almost 50 people expect you to bring more interesting stuff.. but that is a problem in gansta rap

How so? Even if there is a certain age limit to things, smoking weed ain't one of them. Actually the most famous potheads are/were old ass dudes. I mean damn, Tommy Chong was 40 when the first Cheech and Chong movie came out. And that was the beginning of his career. Snoop, Bob Marley, Willie Nelson, etc etc. Weed definitely isn't a young man's thing.

Lol Bob Marley is the best example you could give. Of course he smoked like a chimney, but the point is that he had more to offer than childish songs about weed. Dre is riding weed since he realized that it became cool with the success of Snoop and co. Sorry but it's not very crative and original to rap about the same thing for 20 + years. I mean, Al Green or the Isley Brothers can sing about love for like 50 years,  but rapping about weed and defending the Gangsta image isn't very creative. I thought Dre and Cube were pretty smart for Gangsta Rappers, so I hoped they would be able to progress and have sth more to tell, but obviously they don't want to breach out their corner. It doesn't matter if you're old and smoke weed, but I think it's pretty sad if you don't have more to offer in your music.
On 2001 the sound was atleast fresh which can't be said about Kush.

And of course weed has sth to do with being Gangsta, it's an integral part of 'Gangsta culture' (or atleast the portrayal of it) If it's in movies or Gangsta Rap, weed is always portrayed as the 'cool drug' while crack is the drug for the fuck ups.

If you want to complain about Dre having limited subject matter go ahead, but it shouldn't have anything to do with his age. He's rapped about the same topics his whole career. You're blind if you're only now realizing this. Dre ain't no Bob Marley and he never has been.

And weed has no more to do with "gangsta culture" than it does with hippie culture or rock culture. Its the most common recreational drug that damn near everyone has partook in.

I know that Dre is no Bob Marley, but Kush is so generic and uninspired that it tops everything. And I know Dre's doing the same thing for most of his career, his 2001 album already wasn't an epiphany in this respect, but atleast the sound was fresh and the features were good. But nowadays his productions aren't that good anymore, and with old Snoop and wack Akon you don't win anything.

And of course weed is an integral part of other cultures, but Dre associates himself with Gangsta culture and not hippie. In Gangsta Rap it's all about drugs, hoes and guns, it's so obvious. This whole weed thing is nothing but an image gimmick Dre exploits in an exaggerated way.

[Dre-Day]

We will look back in a few years and call Kush a dope record, why it's not as good as what i expected from Dre - it's 124362452 times better than most of the other shit on the radio.

nah, i'd rather bump the unfinished Shit Popped Off Demo over this. there should still be some dope tracks on the album, but 'I Need A Doctor' isn't one either. so it comes down to hoping more than 3/4 of the joints on Detox are up to scratch. thing is 2001 had a really cohesive sound. we'll see, but at the mo it seems like Dre is watering his shit down to please the 'office' peeps. weak.

Alright alright! Im' just saying I been reading alot of threads on dre and so far its been the same on most ends people complaining they don't like the new Dre like when people were complaining they didin't like the new Quik sound with Kurupt the Blackout! People need to open their eyes to real artistry when they are trying to expand their talent and work with new sounds and create something differnt then doing the same thing that they already done!

but is Kush really different/fresh? i don't think so

[MrJas]

I agree that Kush would have been a dope RED single, with snoop on it. Dre sounds too forced and akon just sounds weird

Still dig the track for what its worth tho, could have been a lot worse

[HighEyeCue]

We will look back in a few years and call Kush a dope record, why it's not as good as what i expected from Dre - it's 124362452 times better than most of the other shit on the radio.

nah, i'd rather bump the unfinished Shit Popped Off Demo over this. there should still be some dope tracks on the album, but 'I Need A Doctor' isn't one either. so it comes down to hoping more than 3/4 of the joints on Detox are up to scratch. thing is 2001 had a really cohesive sound. we'll see, but at the mo it seems like Dre is watering his shit down to please the 'office' peeps. weak.

Alright alright! Im' just saying I been reading alot of threads on dre and so far its been the same on most ends people complaining they don't like the new Dre like when people were complaining they didin't like the new Quik sound with Kurupt the Blackout! People need to open their eyes to real artistry when they are trying to expand their talent and work with new sounds and create something differnt then doing the same thing that they already done!

but is Kush really different/fresh? i don't think so

I like it but your right ts definitely not a new sound

[dnjp4life]

Well I'm still listening to this track on the regular, and am still not bored of it, but mainly because of the beat.

I couldn't give a shit that it supposedly has no class.  Have any of Dre's records over the years had 'class'?

[Bomb-A®]

Ya, Kush sounds way too noisey for a Dre track. It sounds crowded and not as clean as his productions usually sound. And his vocals just get lost in it all. I also think Dre is overdoing it just a bit with the piano loops. I hate to be so analytical, but its just how I feel.

In a way, I'm glad they made this the hype single or whatever. This way, when I listen to the album for the first time, I won't hear this and go WTFISTHISSHIT!!!1

[Sir Petey]

Of course it has no class, Dre is an old man, he should be doing sth different than songs about weed. This Gangster Rap formula is played out, I would expect from Cube, Dre et al sth. innovative...
It's embarassing... Instead of showing some maturity they still have to act Gangsta in front of their die hard fans they got left.
 

how is smoking weed gangsta?

its not about it being gangsta, but when u hit a certain age, there are some stuff that u cant really say or do, you get more mature . smoking weed may look good when ur young but when you are almost 50 people expect you to bring more interesting stuff.. but that is a problem in gansta rap

How so? Even if there is a certain age limit to things, smoking weed ain't one of them. Actually the most famous potheads are/were old ass dudes. I mean damn, Tommy Chong was 40 when the first Cheech and Chong movie came out. And that was the beginning of his career. Snoop, Bob Marley, Willie Nelson, etc etc. Weed definitely isn't a young man's thing.

Lol Bob Marley is the best example you could give. Of course he smoked like a chimney, but the point is that he had more to offer than childish songs about weed. Dre is riding weed since he realized that it became cool with the success of Snoop and co. Sorry but it's not very crative and original to rap about the same thing for 20 + years. I mean, Al Green or the Isley Brothers can sing about love for like 50 years,  but rapping about weed and defending the Gangsta image isn't very creative. I thought Dre and Cube were pretty smart for Gangsta Rappers, so I hoped they would be able to progress and have sth more to tell, but obviously they don't want to breach out their corner. It doesn't matter if you're old and smoke weed, but I think it's pretty sad if you don't have more to offer in your music.
On 2001 the sound was atleast fresh which can't be said about Kush.

And of course weed has sth to do with being Gangsta, it's an integral part of 'Gangsta culture' (or atleast the portrayal of it) If it's in movies or Gangsta Rap, weed is always portrayed as the 'cool drug' while crack is the drug for the fuck ups.

If you want to complain about Dre having limited subject matter go ahead, but it shouldn't have anything to do with his age. He's rapped about the same topics his whole career. You're blind if you're only now realizing this. Dre ain't no Bob Marley and he never has been.

And weed has no more to do with "gangsta culture" than it does with hippie culture or rock culture. Its the most common recreational drug that damn near everyone has partook in.

I know that Dre is no Bob Marley, but Kush is so generic and uninspired that it tops everything. And I know Dre's doing the same thing for most of his career, his 2001 album already wasn't an epiphany in this respect, but atleast the sound was fresh and the features were good. But nowadays his productions aren't that good anymore, and with old Snoop and wack Akon you don't win anything.

And of course weed is an integral part of other cultures, but Dre associates himself with Gangsta culture and not hippie. In Gangsta Rap it's all about drugs, hoes and guns, it's so obvious. This whole weed thing is nothing but an image gimmick Dre exploits in an exaggerated way.

thanks for the play by play franz...you pretty much said what everyone else has said just with a lot more words.

[Furor Teutonicus]

Of course it has no class, Dre is an old man, he should be doing sth different than songs about weed. This Gangster Rap formula is played out, I would expect from Cube, Dre et al sth. innovative...
It's embarassing... Instead of showing some maturity they still have to act Gangsta in front of their die hard fans they got left.
 

how is smoking weed gangsta?

its not about it being gangsta, but when u hit a certain age, there are some stuff that u cant really say or do, you get more mature . smoking weed may look good when ur young but when you are almost 50 people expect you to bring more interesting stuff.. but that is a problem in gansta rap

How so? Even if there is a certain age limit to things, smoking weed ain't one of them. Actually the most famous potheads are/were old ass dudes. I mean damn, Tommy Chong was 40 when the first Cheech and Chong movie came out. And that was the beginning of his career. Snoop, Bob Marley, Willie Nelson, etc etc. Weed definitely isn't a young man's thing.

Lol Bob Marley is the best example you could give. Of course he smoked like a chimney, but the point is that he had more to offer than childish songs about weed. Dre is riding weed since he realized that it became cool with the success of Snoop and co. Sorry but it's not very crative and original to rap about the same thing for 20 + years. I mean, Al Green or the Isley Brothers can sing about love for like 50 years,  but rapping about weed and defending the Gangsta image isn't very creative. I thought Dre and Cube were pretty smart for Gangsta Rappers, so I hoped they would be able to progress and have sth more to tell, but obviously they don't want to breach out their corner. It doesn't matter if you're old and smoke weed, but I think it's pretty sad if you don't have more to offer in your music.
On 2001 the sound was atleast fresh which can't be said about Kush.

And of course weed has sth to do with being Gangsta, it's an integral part of 'Gangsta culture' (or atleast the portrayal of it) If it's in movies or Gangsta Rap, weed is always portrayed as the 'cool drug' while crack is the drug for the fuck ups.

If you want to complain about Dre having limited subject matter go ahead, but it shouldn't have anything to do with his age. He's rapped about the same topics his whole career. You're blind if you're only now realizing this. Dre ain't no Bob Marley and he never has been.

And weed has no more to do with "gangsta culture" than it does with hippie culture or rock culture. Its the most common recreational drug that damn near everyone has partook in.

I know that Dre is no Bob Marley, but Kush is so generic and uninspired that it tops everything. And I know Dre's doing the same thing for most of his career, his 2001 album already wasn't an epiphany in this respect, but atleast the sound was fresh and the features were good. But nowadays his productions aren't that good anymore, and with old Snoop and wack Akon you don't win anything.

And of course weed is an integral part of other cultures, but Dre associates himself with Gangsta culture and not hippie. In Gangsta Rap it's all about drugs, hoes and guns, it's so obvious. This whole weed thing is nothing but an image gimmick Dre exploits in an exaggerated way.

thanks for the play by play franz...you pretty much said what everyone else has said just with a lot more words.

No problem. I just wanted to make sure he understands it this time.