Author Topic: Money is the Root of all Evil?  (Read 680 times)

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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2002, 10:09:35 PM »
You can't argue with what was originally quoted.  People view money as evil because the human being is naturally greedy, and many people allow money and the pursuit of it to corrupt them.  Look at Tony Montana, he became addicted to the cheese, and that fucked with him.  It's like a drug, and that's where Jesus was coming from when he said it was easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than it was for a rich man to get into heaven.  It's harder for a rich man to get in than a poor man, because it is more likely that the rich man has been corrupted by money.  So money isn't the root of all evil, but man's faults mean that money twists people.

I reccomend that you pick up Atlas Shruged and read the whole thing...
 

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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2002, 06:03:25 AM »
why?
 

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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2002, 07:52:32 AM »
one thing i wanted to mention was that i hate motherfuckers who WANTS to be ignorant even though they themselves know that they're wrong, their 'ego' prevents them from correcting themselves....they just dont want to listen...that i hate more than anything in the world
 

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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2003, 05:28:02 AM »
Money is simply a medium of exchange.  Its silly to call it the root of all evil,or to even blame it for its damage to society.  It's like this, back in the day if your dad was a chicken rancher and you wanted to go to school he would have to pay the teacher in chickens.  You had to trade your goods/services for other goods/services.  This is the beginning of money.  The only other option is to simply produce everything yourself, in which case we would still all be farmers without TV living in huts.  

Eventually someone realized that its a pain in the ass always having to trade because it required what is refered to as the "double coincidence of wants."  I had to have something you wanted, you needed something I wanted or else we couldn't trade.  So we progressed into turning precious metals (gold/silver) into money that could be used for trade.  But gold was pretty heavy and still not the best option yet.  So we progressed again to paper money, its light, portable, and accepted by everyone.  Now we don't have to worry about "the double coincidence of wants" nor do we have to worry about carry about carts of gold.  This is the root of all money.  It is a necesary part of society.

To return to the initial quote.  Money is what you receive for your efforts.  The amount you possess is an indicator of your value and your work contributed to society.  Those that say money is evil, must not want to work.  That's fair enough, but in saying that you should realize that without money you would have to work much harder.  All the progress we have enjoyed from money wouldn't exist in a world without money.  In a world without money their would be no trade, no techonlogical development, no books, or colleges.  That might sound far fetched but if money didn't exist authors wouldn't write for who would they sell to?  Technological development wouldn't exist without forcing people together to work on it.  Money allows people to work collectively of their own free will.  You say socialism conquers this problem, but socialism and freedom can't exist.  To quote Fyodor Dovestsky "Assurance of bread and water and freedom cannot coexist." Basically, if I'm going to insure that you have something to eat, I also have to insure that another person makes that food for you.  Somewhere along the way, a person's freedom is sacrificed.  

Why should you read Atlas Shrugged?  It's an interesting arguement against socialism, alturism, and many american ideals.  While I can't say I totally argee with her, I can that those people who wish to make a stand for altruism, and socialism should read the opposing arguements.  Many people get off on the fact that they can prove their friends, neighbors, etc. wrong but how many of you can prove wrong the strongest opposing arguement to your own beliefs.  Finally, the book is just enjoying, positive, and motivating.  It gives you a greater appreciation for life, your own specifically.
 

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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2003, 07:57:06 AM »
Is money the root of all evil. No
Is money the root of most evil. Yes

Money is not used right. We have good people, who have houses with 2 cars and a swimming pool, and we have good people living in a one roomed apartment with two kids. We have good people sleeping on our streets.
Money makes the good rich people want more, the latest car, the latest tv set, the nicest restaurant. It denies the poor family from basic human rights, makes them feel inferior to the rich. It keeps good homeless people in a vicious circle of poverty. It makes rich business people put economic growth ahead of helping those in need. It makes young unemployed people commit crime in pursuit of a better life. On the global scene, america tyranises the rest of the world with its money, and they respond by dying and fighting for moneyy

Still....moneys not the problem, it's how people use it.
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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2003, 11:43:08 AM »
What about Religion?

Religion is the reason why there is turmoil in the Middle East; and the reason why the WTC/Pentagon where taken down.  

I don't think there ever will be peace until there is some type of 'one religion' thing.  

Like there is this book that is about a Eutopian society and there is NO religion/God.

ITW [the irish boy]

Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2003, 02:27:22 PM »
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree with that
SO MANY PEOPLE THINK THEY KNOW
BUT DO THEY KNOW TO THINK
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DID THEY KNOW SOMETHING
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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2003, 02:34:57 PM »
What about Religion?

Religion is the reason why there is turmoil in the Middle East; and the reason why the WTC/Pentagon where taken down.  

I don't think there ever will be peace until there is some type of 'one religion' thing.  

Like there is this book that is about a Eutopian society and there is NO religion/God.

I dont think religion is the root of evil, like sumone said, ignorance is.  I mean, like that you can blame music for sumones actions too...  If a hardcore eminem fan, listens to em talk about killing his wife and mom, and he does the same, you cant blame Eminem for it.  nuhmean...

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Murrow

Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2003, 02:45:59 PM »
Yeah, I mean; religion isn't the reason for evil - I ment that it is the cause of many conflicts because people disagree with other people's belief's.

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Re:Money is the Root of all Evil?
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2003, 07:25:21 AM »
I don't think there is a root of all evil.  There are certain causes of "evil."  But no definite roots.  I made this post to dispell a common myth that money is the root of evil.  In actuality nothing is the root.

Ignorance may be a greater cause of evil than money.  But how can you blame the unavoidable?  There are certain things I am ignorant to which I am unaware of.  I make bad decisions as a result of this ignorance.  Perhaps even "evil" decisions.  But there is a cause for my ignorance, just as their is a cause for every other man's ignorance.  The only all knowing being supposedly is God.  

To blame the necesary and unavoidable as a the root of something is silly.  Money is necesary for our survival.  Ignorance is unavoidable.