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« on: January 01, 2003, 11:01:14 AM »
TIRA, Israel (Reuters) - "Fatima" saunters into the store, murmuring "Shalom." At the counter, "Yussuf" eyes her appreciatively and returns the Hebrew greeting. Cue music. The couple embrace, lapsing naturally into their native Arabic.

Were it not for the hardcore sex that comes next, it might have passed for another Israeli high school video on language education.

Instead, the bilingual film billed as "the first Israeli-Arab porno" has inflamed the Jewish state's Muslim minority, drawing charges of sacrilege and a vigilante death sentence on "Fatima" issued by her own hometown and family.

Amal Kashua, a 38-year-old mother of eight, was set upon by a mob last week in Tira, a prosperous Arab community in central Israel. "Yussuf," a Palestinian known only as Amir, was beaten too. They went to hospital under police guard, then into hiding.

Shamed by association, Kashua's relatives disowned her.

Tira residents were divided over whether Kashua and Amir were married or merely lovers, and rumors put the money they had made in November for their hour-long on-camera coupling at anything from 700 shekels ($148) to 30 times as much.

But none disputed that the stars of "Yussuf and Fatima" had brought the near-lynching in Tira square upon themselves.

"The whole town is satisfied and dissatisfied at once," said local man Fathi Sultan. "Satisfied at what happened, because we tried to protect our honor, but on the other hand dissatisfied because she (Kashua) didn't die, nor her husband."

From her hospital bed in Kfar Saba, a mainly Jewish city nearby, Kashua pleaded hunger as the cause of her "heresy."

"I didn't want to insult Islam. I just wanted to make some money," she told reporters, her face cut and arm set in a fresh cast. "I was addicted to drugs and needed cash to feed my kids.

"Plenty of others are worse than me," she said. "The fact is that a lot of people in Tira saw that movie."

JUDGING A FLICK BY ITS COVER

The litany of complaints began with the video's cover, which showed Kashua and Amir in a pre-coital pose against a minaret.

"This is a blow to the sensitivity of Muslims everywhere," said Tira attorney Ihab Galgoly, who was representing two men arrested on suspicion of leading the assault on the couple.

"We are considering suing the producers for breach of the law guaranteeing human dignity and freedom."

The studio which made "Yussuf and Fatima" remained unfazed.

"We are not liable since we did everything by the book," SexStyle director-general Amos Lahat told Reuters by telephone.

"The couple approached us to make the film, and we warned them that there could be repercussions in their personal lives," Lahat said, adding that they were paid "around $1,000" each.

Foreign pornography enjoys brisk sales in Israel, with tapes available for rent at stores and street dispensers. But local productions are a recent phenomenon. Lahat attributed this to the country's tiny population -- 6.5 million -- which precludes total anonymity for actors wary of being recognized in public.

With Israeli Arabs usually more conservative than their Jewish counterparts, "Yussuf and Fatima" set a precedent. Lahat allowed that market considerations were behind its cover design.

"There is considerable demand from the Arab sector for porn which 'speaks to them', as it were. So we wanted to emphasize that this was a precedent-setting ethnic film," he said.

But as of mid-December -- several days before Kashua and Amir were attacked -- the cover of "Yussuf and Fatima" had been stripped down: no minaret, no title, just the photograph.

"An Arab client who bought the film called in to lodge a polite request that we change its look to avoid causing offence, so we did," Lahat explained.

Some Muslims took further umbrage at the name Fatima, which was also that of the Prophet Mohammed's daughter. On this account, Lahat was unapologetic.

"In these parts you can find a scriptural connection to just about any name," he said. "Take a look at Hebrew, for example. Some of my Jewish actors have biblical namesakes too. So what?"


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PRIVATE ACT, PUBLIC DISGRACE

"Yussuf and Fatima" hit sex shop shelves in mid-December. Within days, word that a local woman starred in it was echoing around Tira's narrow lanes. Communal curiosity was aroused.

Though no one admitted watching pornography, many townspeople knew "someone" who had identified the couple copulating in the grainy, hand-held footage.

"There are things which are private to man and wife, but when they are made public they become a disgrace," said Ashraf Sultani, a lottery-booth owner in Tira's squat shopping mall.

On the door leading to the main square, Kashua's family had taped a black-on-white poster made to look like a death notice.

"As God, and you all, are our witnesses, we hereby cut off all ties (with Amal Kashua) for all eternity," it read.

Kashua's brother endorsed the attack on the couple. "If I could, I would eat them both raw and spit them out," he told Israeli television, his face obscured and first name withheld.

A leading Israeli feminist described Amal Kashua as the latest victim of "family-honor" violence seen among Israeli Arabs and other conservative Middle Eastern societies.

"With standard domestic violence, the husband attacks the wife, whereas in family-honor cases the woman perceived to have 'strayed' from the moral code is fair game to other men in the community," said Yael Dayan, a long-time member of Israel's parliamentary committee for the advancement of the status of women.

Around 10 Israeli Arab women are murdered each year because of family honor, she said, with countless others beaten or banished.

"What's tragic is that, as Amal tells it, she got into pornography because of her financial straits. It is the same with many Israeli Arab single mothers who become prostitutes to support their children. And it may well get worse," Dayan said.

Israel's labor market and welfare system have been gutted by an economic slump linked to the world recession and a more than two-year-old Palestinian uprising for independence in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip.

But the blues are good for blue movies, according to Lahat.

"Since this whole story over 'Yussuf and Fatima' broke out, we have sold hundreds of copies, most of them in the Arab sector," he said. "We may make another Arabic film. It pays."

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2003, 11:07:20 AM »
Even though Porn shouldn't be any way to make a living, it's a crying shame that the woman was almost beat to death because of her actions. What's even more disgusting is the threat of canibalism by the family members.
 

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2003, 12:26:08 PM »
Word...I heard about that...Some Arabic girl made a prono or something and they wanna kill her for that...How gay...PeACe
 

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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2003, 01:01:31 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2003, 01:25:45 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws



LMFAO@ Afgan with a huge beard laughing at me criticizing these laws even though ive been to Israel a million times...
 

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2003, 01:27:50 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws

How do you know what color my skin is?

Plus don't you find it wrong that a woman was almost beat to death for something she has every right to do?

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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2003, 01:45:43 PM »
It's clearly she they where laughing with ISLAM. And this what they where is HARAM - HARAM - HARAM. How could they do this.

Wallah, they don't have respect for ISLAM.

 

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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2003, 02:32:15 PM »
It's clearly she they where laughing with ISLAM. And this what they where is HARAM - HARAM - HARAM. How could they do this.

Wallah, they don't have respect for ISLAM.






And thats a reason to get beaten the fuck up and almost killed?
 

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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2003, 02:48:37 PM »
Another reason I'm glad I live in the u.s.a.  I dunno what she was thinking though, it's basically her stupid fault, she knew that would be their reaction, yet did it anyways.  She must be the most ignorant woman in that country.  If I was a woman over there, I'd just not even open my mouth, and live my life hiding under my little burqa or whatever.  That's what Infinite plans to do when he makes it over.  
 

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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2003, 03:15:18 PM »
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And thats a reason to get beaten the fuck up and almost killed?

I didn't said that.
 

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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2003, 10:19:32 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws



LMFAO@ Afgan with a huge beard laughing at me criticizing these laws even though ive been to Israel a million times...

once again, u made a stupid comment, maybe i should make a thread and sticky it, NIKs greatest hits, this one took the cake tho

Btw, what does u going to Palestine have to do with your ignorance of Islamic culture...i find it really humorous that two people who know nothing of Islam ,its culture, heritage, laws and way of life are condeming this, holding this incident to their narrow minded western view, ignorance has claimed u all...
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2003, 10:52:17 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws



LMFAO@ Afgan with a huge beard laughing at me criticizing these laws even though ive been to Israel a million times...

once again, u made a stupid comment, maybe i should make a thread and sticky it, NIKs greatest hits, this one took the cake tho

Btw, what does u going to Palestine have to do with your ignorance of Islamic culture...i find it really humorous that two people who know nothing of Islam ,its culture, heritage, laws and way of life are condeming this, holding this incident to their narrow minded western view, ignorance has claimed u all...



What are u saying? It's OK for a women to get beaten (almost) to death for making a porno? Suck an American dick, u Afgan faggot...
 

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2003, 11:09:46 PM »
from my perspective this woman has every right to do what she did and her actions are no reason for people to have any right to do what they did

however, she disrespected her family and culture and gave them all a big fuck you which would make any family or social group angry - perhaps they reacted strongly but her actions were disrespecting her family, culture and heritage and that results in rational anger which may lead to irrational actions.
 

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2003, 11:13:39 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws



LMFAO@ Afgan with a huge beard laughing at me criticizing these laws even though ive been to Israel a million times...

once again, u made a stupid comment, maybe i should make a thread and sticky it, NIKs greatest hits, this one took the cake tho

Btw, what does u going to Palestine have to do with your ignorance of Islamic culture...i find it really humorous that two people who know nothing of Islam ,its culture, heritage, laws and way of life are condeming this, holding this incident to their narrow minded western view, ignorance has claimed u all...



What are u saying? It's OK for a women to get beaten (almost) to death for making a porno? Suck an American dick, u Afgan faggot...

soNIK....how wht if ur MOMA makes a porno, sells it in ur skool to make sum mighty dolla, tell me this, how will u nd ur dad react when they hear she had 5-6 coks up her nd ass nd pussy, would u be like " HEY GREAT MOVIE MAAA !!! " i doubt tht, u wud prolly say shez not ur mom , nd ur dad wud most likely divorce or kill her too
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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2003, 11:21:32 PM »
LMFAO@ 2 white boys from the burbs criticizing Islamic codes and laws



LMFAO@ Afgan with a huge beard laughing at me criticizing these laws even though ive been to Israel a million times...

once again, u made a stupid comment, maybe i should make a thread and sticky it, NIKs greatest hits, this one took the cake tho

Btw, what does u going to Palestine have to do with your ignorance of Islamic culture...i find it really humorous that two people who know nothing of Islam ,its culture, heritage, laws and way of life are condeming this, holding this incident to their narrow minded western view, ignorance has claimed u all...



What are u saying? It's OK for a women to get beaten (almost) to death for making a porno? Suck an American dick, u Afgan faggot...

soNIK....how wht if ur MOMA makes a porno, sells it in ur skool to make sum mighty dolla, tell me this, how will u nd ur dad react when they hear she had 5-6 coks up her nd ass nd pussy, would u be like " HEY GREAT MOVIE MAAA !!! " i doubt tht, u wud prolly say shez not ur mom , nd ur dad wud most likely divorce or kill her too



This is by far the dumbest example I've ever seen...Strangle yourself with dental floss...PeACe
 

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2003, 12:16:14 AM »
Btw, what does u going to Palestine have to do with your ignorance of Islamic culture...i find it really humorous that two people who know nothing of Islam ,its culture, heritage, laws and way of life are condeming this, holding this incident to their narrow minded western view, ignorance has claimed u all...

I find it ignorant that the abuse of women is acceptable in islamic "culture, heritage, laws and way of life"

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2003, 04:37:48 AM »
KING TECH QUADAFI & TAMIL THUG, you're more than right.

And Now_I_Know: That example of TAMIL THUG is just reallity. Thats what she has done, to her family.
 

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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2003, 01:56:56 PM »
she's stupid to have done it

but theres no excuse for punishment like that. Fuck that shit
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2003, 04:23:13 PM »


What are u saying? It's OK for a women to get beaten (almost) to death for making a porno? Suck an American dick, u Afgan faggot...

*adds to NIKs greatest hits*

keep em coming scitt bwoy!!
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2003, 04:43:47 PM »
You assert yourself as being an "intelligent" person, yet you only appear willing to argue with what you consider the "unintelligent."

You enjoy attacking NIK's arguement which you feel you can easily defeat.  But you ignore the more rational statements made by Engelwood.  

I fail to see why you feel that you should berate anyone else.  Sure, I could go around arguing with idiots all day and proclaiming myself a genius.  But, I realize that there are more intelligent people in the world.  If you want to deem yourself "intelligent" your yardstick cannot be the irrational or the unintelligent but the most intelligent.  Until then your simply one of many whether you want to realize it or not.

To be candid.  Your nothing but an arrogant prick that thinks he is smart because he can outwit fools.  If you doubt this statement.  Think about it when your life takes unexpected turns for the worse and you can't explain why.  It's not God or Allah, although thats who you may blame.  It's your own irrationality that prevents you from understanding the world.  It's your own irrationality that prevents you from solving your problems and instead forces you to "rationalize" your problems. That irrationality which is so blatantly presented here.

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2003, 04:43:57 PM »


What are u saying? It's OK for a women to get beaten (almost) to death for making a porno? Suck an American dick, u Afgan faggot...

*adds to NIKs greatest hits*

keep em coming scitt bwoy!!



^^Are all Afgans this dumb?
 

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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2003, 06:03:10 PM »
dude, what are u talkin about? im not arguing with NIK, im clowning him, hes an idiot, as for Englewood, i have never argued with him over an intellectual issue, a political issue, im still waiting for him to make an opinion.
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re:First Israeli-Arab porno...
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2003, 08:28:29 PM »
dude, what are u talkin about? im not arguing with NIK, im clowning him, hes an idiot, as for Englewood, i have never argued with him over an intellectual issue, a political issue, im still waiting for him to make an opinion.


As your karma shows, you're only clowning yourself...
 

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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2003, 10:49:28 PM »
there are 5 people on this board who are so fixated with Tech's dick that they feel they have to diss me everytime they see me.  These scum are just mad, that the truth hurts. Meanwhile, you are hated and despised by everybody

If me and u made a thread, where everyone voted for one of us to stay and one of us to be banned forever, you'd be packing your bags quick. Not that others opinion should matter, but they seem to u
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