Pac & Dre

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Jimmy has the last word in everything involving Aftermath & Dre. Ain't that a bitch?

That's called having a job. With a boss.

You would think the biggest producer in hip hop since the 90s would be his own boss by now. Dre seems to always need someone telling him what to do.

[One2free]

Jimmy has the last word in everything involving Aftermath & Dre. Ain't that a bitch?

That's called having a job. With a boss.

well, I know about this, thank you though. Now, from another point of view, that can be called 'bending over... with no vaseline' (just remembered Ice Cube about those Jerry Heller lines... lol)

Ya know Dre is supposed to be a real tight producer with creative control. If Jimmy doesn't like a release or some project, that won't happen, simple as that.. Dre's Jimmys bitch

[V2DHeart]

^that's a nice story but wtf!!! We're supposed to believe your paragraph on what happened over anyone elses? Lol, were you there? Source or get out.

You don't have to believe anything I say. You can choose to believe that Suge bullied Dr Dre into handing over beats - the majority thesis on this thread, or any other theory you want to believe in

I'd rather hear it from someone who was there, rather than fanboys imagining what went down on dubcc. Lol @ you acting like you know what happened.

The source that supplied the information was there, but only a small handful of people on here will know the source by certain key information that's been written down. I'm not about to disclose a name to keep you happy. What I've been told may be false but only time will tell

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

^that's a nice story but wtf!!! We're supposed to believe your paragraph on what happened over anyone elses? Lol, were you there? Source or get out.

You don't have to believe anything I say. You can choose to believe that Suge bullied Dr Dre into handing over beats - the majority thesis on this thread, or any other theory you want to believe in

I'd rather hear it from someone who was there, rather than fanboys imagining what went down on dubcc. Lol @ you acting like you know what happened.

The source that supplied the information was there, but only a small handful of people on here will know the source by certain key information that's been written down. I'm not about to disclose a name to keep you happy. What I've been told may be false but only time will tell

If you can't link the source then there isn't one. There's so much word of mouth bs going around that you saying you heard it from someone isn't any better than an internet rumor.

[love33]

It's not a secret how all these artists who jumped from Death Row like Nate Dogg and Kurupt suddenly found themselves working with Dr. Dre again almost immediately. Pac was thriving off of beef and Dre had had enough of it.

I agree, but with the Nate Dogg situation he was totally down with Death Row even after Dre left.  It wasn't until Death Row released his "G Funk Classics" album overseas (was supposed to drop here in the U.S.) and then after 2 weeks scrapped the release, stopped the production, and scrapped the project in the U.S.  At that point Nate was through and he had to go to court to get out of his contract and sued for possession of his material that he recorded.  At that point, Nate had an extreme dislike of the label and never again said anything positive about it.

Snoop wanted his "Doggumentary (OG Version)/Smokefest 1997" album released and he was cool with the label until Suge kept pushing his album back.  Suge had a way of putting artists in purgatory (forever delaying their projects) if he had a problem with an artist and they were locked in contracts.  But it might've been that Tupac had just passed away, Suge was going to prison, and the label was in complete disfunction.  Suge also felt the quality of those tracks wasn't up to par for Snoop's standards ("Doggystyle" obviously sold extremely well, and even though Doggfather sold 3 million units it was not on the same level as his first release and some even called it a 'failure'). (A lot of those tracks appeared on "Dead Man Walkin" and IMO he's right they were good, but they weren't up to Snoop's top quality.  Whatever the reason, the album wasn't being released nor promoted).

With Kurupt, he was still signed to Death Row as a member of "Tha Dogg Pound" but not as a solo artist; he was givin the blessing by Suge to go start ANTRA Records where he was the CEO.  Kurupt was actually cool with both Dr. Dre and Suge Knight and he was the only notable artist to appear on both Chronic albums in 1999 -- "The Chronic 2000:  Suge Knight Represents" and "Dr. Dre 2001."  Daz tookover the spot of lead producer that Dr. Dre formerly held.

[love33]

but Dre lost the company HE created and made.

These guys both MADE the company, it was Suge who got Dre out of his deal with Eazy-E/Jerry Heller/Ruthless and persuaded him to come from behind the boards and make a solo album to present to Interscope so they could land the deal.  Nobody was investing major dollars into rap music, let alone "gangsta rap" they both took a huge risk.  Suge's money funded Death Row and Dre's top tier production skills put the music end to work.  They signed the right artists and secured the huge deal with Interscope who paid MTV and other media outlets big money to promote the label.  Suge and Dre are both great at recruiting talent and know what good music and music that can chart in the Top 10 sounds like.  After Pac's passing, when Suge got sent to prison, he had gangsters and uneducated people who were not business-savy running the company.  You can't go from having two marketing, music, and business-savy guys like Dre and Suge to having Daz and C-Style and a bunch of Row associates and gang members trying to run a company while Suge was in prison.  Death Row was a $400 million enterprise and when Suge went to prison they couldn't even fill out a tax form.  Artists were locked into deals, albums weren't being released, checks were not being paid out.  If he had smarter people running the company and Dre would've stayed, it would've been different.  But the whole dynasty really collapsed when Suge went to prison and Dre left the label.

[Quadruple OG]

By the way, the part about Dre and Eazy talking about a NWA reunion is 100% false. Dre never talked to Eazy directly about that supposed reunion; Dre has claimed on multiple occasions he made peace with Eazy when he was unconscious at the hospital.

Unless Dre can read minds, there was no direct contact about that reunion.

[3rd Coast]

dre n pac beef is simple...all them novels yall writing...waste of time

look how long detox been coming.... look how fast pac was in n out of the studio...

[Your favorite posters favorite poster]

Discussing a 15 year old beef between a homosexual and a man that has been dead for just as long as the beef and was such a weak person he let Suge control him.

[2pac thug 4 life]

Dre is a good producer, but hes a bitch and could never fuck wit pac's level of realness so he talked shit like a slut.

[Dre-Day]

By the way, the part about Dre and Eazy talking about a NWA reunion is 100% false. Dre never talked to Eazy directly about that supposed reunion; Dre has claimed on multiple occasions he made peace with Eazy when he was unconscious at the hospital.

Unless Dre can read minds, there was no direct contact about that reunion.

there were plans though

[V2DHeart]

Dr Dre didnt need to release anything.but in 95/96 Dr Dre done more than most,especially for 2pac.he was told to stay away from court directly from interscope who in turn paid massive amounts to the legal team representing Snoop Dogg in an attempt to keep Dres name clean.they had plans to mould him into a mature artist hence why chronic 2 was scrapped

[Quadruple OG]

By the way, the part about Dre and Eazy talking about a NWA reunion is 100% false. Dre never talked to Eazy directly about that supposed reunion; Dre has claimed on multiple occasions he made peace with Eazy when he was unconscious at the hospital.

Unless Dre can read minds, there was no direct contact about that reunion.

there were plans though

Eazy and Cube talked about it, but Eazy and Dre never had the chance to talk about reuniting

[felipebtu]

loyalty . this is why the beef .  dre dont go in tribunal defend Snoop in this case .. simply .. tupac defended loyalt by part of Dre

[LAC/EASTSIDE]

Hainas!