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Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« on: January 10, 2003, 09:08:28 PM »
for the last week, just about every dream ive had has been pretty fucked up and has been about murder, and i mean, its not like ive even been listenin to bone that much with that mo murda shit they keep sayin, i havent even listened to that shit,

but like the other night, it was a dream of this lil girl gettin raped and killed in my town and then thrown in a ditch and i find her body, fuckin sick shit ive been seein, then last night, one about this serial killer murderin people, another one of this old guy livin in my neighborhood goin nuts and killin people in his house for the fuck of it.....just disturbing shit like this, i swear its startin to fuck with me, shit isnt cool yall, wtf is goin on.
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2003, 09:54:34 PM »
have you lost control on a situation ? or did somethin failed in your life?
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2003, 10:01:12 PM »
Hmm, you keep seeing horrible things, and stumbling upon horrible things, but keep in mind, the horrible things aren't done TO you, and you're not the one doing them.  So, you're seeing bad things.  I would say that something in your life, something you SEE, not something you do, or someone does to you, is disturbing you.  Like maybe your brother killed a dog, you saw it, then you have dreams about murderers.  It doesn't have to be murder, either, but I'd say it's violent.  You're SEEING something violent happen, and you're dreaming about it at night, becuase it's upsetting you.  I'm sure this isn't the case, but for instance a guy like you might see his dad yell at his mom; that night he dreams about people murdering other people.  


It's nothing wrong with you, it's just you dealing with something you see happening.  The stumbling on the little girl's body might suggest that it's something you feel only you notice, or that only you know about, or something like that.  
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2003, 12:59:36 AM »
Hmm, you keep seeing horrible things, and stumbling upon horrible things, but keep in mind, the horrible things aren't done TO you, and you're not the one doing them.  So, you're seeing bad things.  I would say that something in your life, something you SEE, not something you do, or someone does to you, is disturbing you.  Like maybe your brother killed a dog, you saw it, then you have dreams about murderers.  It doesn't have to be murder, either, but I'd say it's violent.  You're SEEING something violent happen, and you're dreaming about it at night, becuase it's upsetting you.  I'm sure this isn't the case, but for instance a guy like you might see his dad yell at his mom; that night he dreams about people murdering other people.  


It's nothing wrong with you, it's just you dealing with something you see happening.  The stumbling on the little girl's body might suggest that it's something you feel only you notice, or that only you know about, or something like that.  


Yeah plus murder/death etc, usualy represents an ending of a phase.  Like if you see a child dying, it could represent how your matureing, etc...hit me up on aim, we aint talked for a while man, peace

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2003, 01:53:43 AM »
ending of a phase...hmm that sounds interesting, can be bad and can be real good,i hope its the good thing i think
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2003, 04:00:51 AM »
Western culture has subjected you to violence without you even living a violent lifestyle.  It's became a part of your everyday thoughts.  Without a program like Islam to get you away from a conventional American lifestyle it may become common place for you.  

Others have offered slogans like- "it's a phase" or "cheer up", "get a girlfriend", "chill out", "laugh it off."   We are not talking about slogans here.  Islam is not a slogan, Islam is a program that has been provided for you by Allah through the holy prophet Muhammad (salla alayhi wa salaam).  And whenever you decide to use that program with the whole of your being, only then can you get away from the moral and physical decay that you may be subjected to in conventional American culture.
 

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2003, 04:06:15 AM »
^ yeah thats right infinite... NOT... man how low is it to tell a man he's fucked unless he chooses islam !?
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2003, 04:13:43 AM »
^ yeah thats right infinite... NOT... man how low is it to tell a man he's fucked unless he chooses islam !?

All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2003, 04:26:19 AM »
^ yeah thats right infinite... NOT... man how low is it to tell a man he's fucked unless he chooses islam !?

Overseer, you live in Western culture which is secular.  Church and state may have been seperated in your culture but the Muslim has not seperated Allah from anything in his own life.  You are a product of the West, and therefore you seek to find answers that have nothing to do with Allah.  You seek to become seperate from your ultimate reality.
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2003, 11:46:51 AM »
All things come from allah?  Didn't we aready cover this topic Infinite?  You regressed on it before, now you are going back to it.  You'll say damn near anything to win an arguement.  Doesn't allah teach you ethics morals?  

But like I said before, if all things from come from Allah all evil comes from Allah.  Allah controls all, allah controls evil.  Allah controls Doggy's sick dreams.  It's Allah's fault and he isn't gonna stop fucking with your head until you get down on your knees and beg like infinite is telling you to.

Other things that come from Allah:

1. Osama Bin Laden
2.  George Bush
3.  Cats
4.  Dogs
5.  Child Molesters
6.  Ice Cream
7.  Saddam Hussein
8.  Penises
9.  Western Culture
10. Homelessness
11. Porn Movies
12. Boogers
13. Everything Evil
14. Everything Good
15. Everything Not Yet Mentioned

So you see, since everything comes from Allah you may be evil and never know it.  In fact life is an uncertain mess.  We all came from Allah but we all aren't perfect.  Some of us are good/evil, smart/stupid, crazy/sane.  But we can never know, only Allah knows.  Doubt everything, because it all came from Allah.  If your believe in Jesus don't be so sure that's correct because your belief came from Allah.  You can't really be sure of anything really.  Do I really want to type this or is Allah making me type this?  Obviously its Allah.  Allah has no penis.  Shit now he is being a big Jerk.  Allah fucks his mother.  Damn he did it again.  Fuck Fuck Fuck Bitch Fuck.  

All things come from Allah, indeed this message I'm giving you now is coming from Allah.  Allah says go kill yourself infinite.
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2003, 12:53:32 PM »
Western culture has subjected you to violence without you even living a violent lifestyle.  It's became a part of your everyday thoughts.  Without a program like Islam to get you away from a conventional American lifestyle it may become common place for you.  

Others have offered slogans like- "it's a phase" or "cheer up", "get a girlfriend", "chill out", "laugh it off."   We are not talking about slogans here.  Islam is not a slogan, Islam is a program that has been provided for you by Allah through the holy prophet Muhammad (salla alayhi wa salaam).  And whenever you decide to use that program with the whole of your being, only then can you get away from the moral and physical decay that you may be subjected to in conventional American culture.

Actually, many cultures have voilence LoL, if he wasnt brought up in the west, he would still know what voilence is.  Secondly, dreams are very rarely to be taken literal, they are almost always metaphorical.  If you see yourself killing sumone, doesnt mean your really gonna kill him.  If you vision ureself drowning, does not mean ure gonna drown.  And much of dreams is just meaningless crap.  If Siavash had a good nights sleep, on a good bed, and then had the dream, it could mean many things.
It is a dream, I have seen extreamly religious people have nightmares, so following a religion is not going to stop you from having night mares or graphic dreams.  
I agree the world is messed in many ways, voilence, drugs etc goes around everywhere.  You cant shield  anybody from it.  Heck look at the 9/11 plane hi jackers, they were muslim.  I am not dissing Islam, or you in any way.  By the way, Overseer isnt exactly religious, hes more of an athiest, or sumting.    Im just tryin to help doggy, negative dreams are not usualy predictions of a negative future, or anything like it, peace
 
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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2003, 03:13:27 PM »
Infinite.....Dawg.....Sometimes U take it a bit too far.....

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2003, 03:41:59 AM »
Infinite.....Dawg.....Sometimes U take it a bit too far.....

Well, hopefully, inshallah I will take my part in the Muslim world "too far" rather than taking my part with some small time gangmembers "too far."  If it were a post about my street gang you would of said "cool".
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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2003, 04:12:01 AM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.
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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2003, 08:06:54 AM »
^^^I can agree with that.  My freshman year I took a class on western religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity).  Funny thing was that was the first thing to really make me reconsider my religious beliefs.  But I walked away from that class with a lot of respect for Islam.

Respect that Infinite pretty much killed.  But, honestly if infinite is your typical muslim then its probably not bad to be turned off from Islam.  I don't think I'd want one infinite-like friend let alone a whole gang of them.  That maybe a personal attack but its also the truth.

Although, as infinite mentioned all things come from Allah so maybe its Allah's plan for me not to like Infinite.  Who knows?  
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2003, 10:34:06 AM »
Man, just coz u believe allah is the only dude that can save us does mean its true.
Personnally, I prefer the idea that dealing with shit yourself is more reliable than kneeling and praying that some devine intrevention will help u.
+the middle east is as violent as the west+dont you listen to rap???
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2003, 11:32:57 AM »
i liken infinite's pro-islamic rants as being like those of a born again christian. just as precocious and ignorant. u all agree?
 

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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2003, 12:03:29 PM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.

if infinite is the ony reason why you're now against islam, i gotta say that you have no strong mental...

cwalker is a bitch fir real... but he's not gonna make me hate christians or be against Christanity as a religion

i say the same thing to Ant
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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2003, 12:05:17 PM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.

if infinite is the ony reason why you're now against islam, i gotta say that you have no strong mental...

cwalker is a bitch fir real... but he's not gonna make me hate christians or be against Christanity as a religion

I have no strong mental? WRONG! All you base are belong to us!
 

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2003, 12:07:01 PM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.

if infinite is the ony reason why you're now against islam, i gotta say that you have no strong mental...

cwalker is a bitch fir real... but he's not gonna make me hate christians or be against Christanity as a religion

I have no strong mental? WRONG! All you base are belong to us!

what the fuck are you talking about?? .. did you come to the right thread
 

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Re:Some weird shit yall, whats goin on
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2003, 12:10:04 PM »


Well, hopefully, inshallah I will take my part in the Muslim world "too far" rather than taking my part with some small time gangmembers "too far."  If it were a post about my street gang you would of said "cool".




lol, wachu talkin bout? It's never cool takin it too far......And also U do contradict yurself alot......Reminds me of Nas......


lol @ middle east is just as violent as tha west......west aint got nuttin on middle east.....lmao








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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2003, 12:10:35 PM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.

if infinite is the ony reason why you're now against islam, i gotta say that you have no strong mental...

cwalker is a bitch fir real... but he's not gonna make me hate christians or be against Christanity as a religion

I have no strong mental? WRONG! All you base are belong to us!

what the fuck are you talking about?? .. did you come to the right thread
Thanks for the negative Karma!

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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2003, 12:14:26 PM »
lmao @ all your base  ;D
 

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2003, 12:29:59 PM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.

if infinite is the ony reason why you're now against islam, i gotta say that you have no strong mental...

cwalker is a bitch fir real... but he's not gonna make me hate christians or be against Christanity as a religion

I have no strong mental? WRONG! All you base are belong to us!

what the fuck are you talking about?? .. did you come to the right thread
Thanks for the negative Karma!

Somebody set up us the bomb!

i dont give a fuck about those karma shit... i've never given bad karma to anybody.. not even cwalker
 

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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2003, 01:24:55 PM »
All things come from Allah.  He is our reality.  So for me to deny Allah as being the center and truth of all things it would be as if I denied myself as a human being.  So Islam is the solution.  The deen, the way of life is complete, and far-reaching.  So why would I offer a solution other than Islam?

He's not my reality. Islam is not my solution. Just because it's cool for you dosen't make it cool for everybody else. You should be glad you found something you are so into, but when you type shit like this, it scares of others away from your religion. Seriously, I was checking out all major religions when I came to this board. You have single handedly turned me away from Islam. I don't have anything aginst it, but you've really turned me off of it.

if infinite is the ony reason why you're now against islam, i gotta say that you have no strong mental...

cwalker is a bitch fir real... but he's not gonna make me hate christians or be against Christanity as a religion

i say the same thing to Ant

That's probably true its not fair for me to judge Islam for Infinite's actions.  Or is it?  I don't judge infinite's actions at face value.  Infinite's character negatively reflects on Islam for reasons other than you may initially think.

I look at it like this.  Infinite is basically a voice recorder that is very good at repeating what he hears.  That's not to hard for anyone to realize.  Infinite's words negatively reflect on Islam because they aren't his own thought up idea but something handed down to him by other Muslims.  That is what bothers me.  Furthermore, Infinite has not affiliated himself with some weird sect of Islam so his actions I interpret as coming from general Islamic teachings.  For example, a lot of christians are very extremist even similiar to Infinite (as Overseer mentioned) however those "odd" christians aren't generally affiliated with the aggregate christian population.  They belong to their own sect, and most christians have no problem criticizing these people.

Infinite on the other hand is taught supposedly by genuine Muslims that are respected in the Islamic community.  Furthermore, other muslims on this board frequently support Infinite's words.  At times his words aren't supported outwardly, but it is a rare case for him to be disagreed with.  

So I'm not judging Islam on Infinite's actions alone.  I'm judging Islam on the basis that Islam permits and teaches Infinite to believe what he believes and behave how he behaves.  I'm judging Islam on the basis that no other muslims seems to disagree with statements made by Infinite.  I'm judging Islam on my assumption that Infinite can not think and can only repeat so whatever he repeats he learns from Islamic teachings.  
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