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Media outlets all over the world rushed to report that Bin Laden was armed and hid behind a woman.  Two accusations that have already been shown to be false.  A news agency's job is not to simply be a mouthpiece of the government and to report verbatim the press releases of the government.

All anybody will remember is the front page news from yesterday. That's how propaganda is done. The details and truth comes out later but by that time everyone has already stopped paying attention.

It has already came out that it was a lie that Bin Laden was hiding behind a woman, and it was a lie that he was armed and couldn't have been taken in alive... but then the government might have had to prove all their accusations in court, and since they've tried to attribute everything under the sun to Bin Laden over the past 20 years, that would of been an impossible task for them.

The importance of spreading the lie that Bin Laden hid behind a woman was to embolden Americans morally in the war on terror, in the belief that Usama was a coward and that Muslims are womanizers. Those are two key motivators in the minds of those who support the "war on terror".
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muslims = womanizer

me = womanizer

me = muslim?
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Who cares wether he hid behind a burka or that he didn't have an RPG launcher on his back. The bastard is dead and that is an awesome fact.

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Who cares wether he hid behind a burka or that he didn't have an RPG launcher on his back. The bastard is dead and that is an awesome fact.

Ignorant and proud of it, feels great doesn't it?
 

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Media outlets all over the world rushed to report that Bin Laden was armed and hid behind a woman.  Two accusations that have already been shown to be false.  A news agency's job is not to simply be a mouthpiece of the government and to report verbatim the press releases of the government.

All anybody will remember is the front page news from yesterday. That's how propaganda is done. The details and truth comes out later but by that time everyone has already stopped paying attention.

It has already came out that it was a lie that Bin Laden was hiding behind a woman, and it was a lie that he was armed and couldn't have been taken in alive... but then the government might have had to prove all their accusations in court, and since they've tried to attribute everything under the sun to Bin Laden over the past 20 years, that would of been an impossible task for them.

The importance of spreading the lie that Bin Laden hid behind a woman was to embolden Americans morally in the war on terror, in the belief that Usama was a coward and that Muslims are womanizers. Those are two key motivators in the minds of those who support the "war on terror".

i ain't gotta front or anything fam, i don't like computers and i hate the internet other than getting free shit i can't get in the shops or getting money or getting info on the system, but that shit is the most on point shit that i've seen on these nerdy internet forums, you broke it down and i'm not gassing or anything like that, but that shit was the truth, salute, you broke it down fam

if bin laden was really killed, then they executed him cold bloodiedly in front of his kids and family so that he couldn't be tried in court, because i'm sure his lawyers would have exposed and implicated the US goverment fingerprints in the involvement in 9'11 along wit the terrorists involved in that atrocity too, you see what i'm saying

because i feel bin laden just used to give out money to anyone that wanted too carry out an operation, terrorist or otherwise, but he wern't actually involved in the planning of terrorist acts or resistance operations, he just used to give money out, you see what i'm saying, so in that way, i don't feel sorry for him if he really was killed this week or last, i just think the system westwide, that is legally and publicly run by the white house are even bigger terrorists, whose atrocity's will never be matched by your bin laden's and your average dictator, i agreed wit bin laden's beef wit the system but not about how he went about it, what do civillians minded there own bizness got to do wit the system, you see what i'm saying, he was a fruitcake, but the system is bigger fruitcakes, true stories
 
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Who cares wether he hid behind a burka or that he didn't have an RPG launcher on his back. The bastard is dead and that is an awesome fact.

Ignorant and proud of it, feels great doesn't it?

Pretty much aye.

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Who cares wether he hid behind a burka or that he didn't have an RPG launcher on his back. The bastard is dead and that is an awesome fact.

Yet no evidence has been produced and now today the White House has officially said they will not release the photos... what do they have to hide?
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Who cares wether he hid behind a burka or that he didn't have an RPG launcher on his back. The bastard is dead and that is an awesome fact.

Yet no evidence has been produced and now today the White House has officially said they will not release the photos... what do they have to hide?
They'll eventually release them. If they don't, they'll get leaked.
 

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Media outlets all over the world rushed to report that Bin Laden was armed and hid behind a woman.  Two accusations that have already been shown to be false.  A news agency's job is not to simply be a mouthpiece of the government and to report verbatim the press releases of the government.

All anybody will remember is the front page news from yesterday. That's how propaganda is done. The details and truth comes out later but by that time everyone has already stopped paying attention.

It has already came out that it was a lie that Bin Laden was hiding behind a woman, and it was a lie that he was armed and couldn't have been taken in alive... but then the government might have had to prove all their accusations in court, and since they've tried to attribute everything under the sun to Bin Laden over the past 20 years, that would of been an impossible task for them.

The importance of spreading the lie that Bin Laden hid behind a woman was to embolden Americans morally in the war on terror, in the belief that Usama was a coward and that Muslims are womanizers. Those are two key motivators in the minds of those who support the "war on terror".

i ain't gotta front or anything fam, i don't like computers and i hate the internet other than getting free shit i can't get in the shops or getting money or getting info on the system, but that shit is the most on point shit that i've seen on these nerdy internet forums, you broke it down and i'm not gassing or anything like that, but that shit was the truth, salute, you broke it down fam



Salute, respect!
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Media outlets all over the world rushed to report that Bin Laden was armed and hid behind a woman.  Two accusations that have already been shown to be false.  A news agency's job is not to simply be a mouthpiece of the government and to report verbatim the press releases of the government.

All anybody will remember is the front page news from yesterday. That's how propaganda is done. The details and truth comes out later but by that time everyone has already stopped paying attention.

It has already came out that it was a lie that Bin Laden was hiding behind a woman, and it was a lie that he was armed and couldn't have been taken in alive... but then the government might have had to prove all their accusations in court, and since they've tried to attribute everything under the sun to Bin Laden over the past 20 years, that would of been an impossible task for them.

The importance of spreading the lie that Bin Laden hid behind a woman was to embolden Americans morally in the war on terror, in the belief that Usama was a coward and that Muslims are womanizers. Those are two key motivators in the minds of those who support the "war on terror".

I agree with you that people in the U.S. government and/or media probably just fabricated the idea that Bin Laden was armed and that was why they shot him.  On the other hand, I'm personally not too preoccupied with that.  Especially considering they were weighing the option of just dropping a bomb on him in the first place. I think the fact that they were considering going the bombing route shows they weren't too worried about taking Bin Laden alive.  And considering his admitted participation in the 9/11 attacks, I'm glad he's gone.  They may not have gone about it technically in the right way but ultimately, I think the world is better off with him gone.
 

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Recent poll shows that 94% of Americans liked the killing of Bin Laden.  I really doubt there would be a significant decrease if they knew that he was unarmed. 
 

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Media outlets all over the world rushed to report that Bin Laden was armed and hid behind a woman.  Two accusations that have already been shown to be false.  A news agency's job is not to simply be a mouthpiece of the government and to report verbatim the press releases of the government.

All anybody will remember is the front page news from yesterday. That's how propaganda is done. The details and truth comes out later but by that time everyone has already stopped paying attention.

It has already came out that it was a lie that Bin Laden was hiding behind a woman, and it was a lie that he was armed and couldn't have been taken in alive... but then the government might have had to prove all their accusations in court, and since they've tried to attribute everything under the sun to Bin Laden over the past 20 years, that would of been an impossible task for them.

The importance of spreading the lie that Bin Laden hid behind a woman was to embolden Americans morally in the war on terror, in the belief that Usama was a coward and that Muslims are womanizers. Those are two key motivators in the minds of those who support the "war on terror".
What u speak here is the truth.

"Who cares wether he hid behind a burka or that he didn't have an RPG launcher on his back. The bastard is dead and that is an awesome fact."
And this above statement just proves it.

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Simple fact.  The picture shows brains.  Every Muslim in the damn world would go crazy and burn down buildings if the picture was shown.  They are looking for an excuse to hate America, why give it to them.

And as to if he was armed or not, I'd like to think that if you talk as much shit as he did, about a country and its people, you deserve to get killed.  Even if you are playing checkers with baby omar.  You want to act like a savage, die like one then.
 

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Simple fact.  The picture shows brains.  Every Muslim in the damn world would go crazy and burn down buildings if the picture was shown.  They are looking for an excuse to hate America, why give it to them.

And as to if he was armed or not, I'd like to think that if you talk as much shit as he did, about a country and its people, you deserve to get killed.  Even if you are playing checkers with baby omar.  You want to act like a savage, die like one then.

That is a pretty ignorant thing to say that all Muslims will burn down buildings if the picture is shown. I guess the subliminal messages etched in the speeches made by American Figure heads are really taking their toll on the masses. Its not a coincidence that the presidents speeches for the last 10 years mentions numerous times "Muslim Extremists" "Septemer 11" "Al Quaeda" "Weapons of Mass Destruction" and so on. Classic brainiwashing techinques and the statement made above about "all muslims burning down the buildings" just validates the point that establishment has been successfull into stereotyping muslims as "terrorists".

You talk about Savages..............who or what is a savage? Ok u say Osama is a savage........fine. But what about the price that was paid for the so called war on terror? What about the 10 years, 2 illegal wars, over 900,000 lives lost (90 percent innocent) and over a trillion dollar defecit to the tax payers for this so called war on terror? Shouldn't the figureheads who lead this country into these wars/blood baths for global imperialism/resource control be held accountable? Are Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, Obama, Clinton not all savages as well? If we live in a true free democracy, shouldn't the people decide on whether these so called great independant leaders be tried for war crimes committed against humanity? We are quick to make Osama into the bogeyman from hell but what about the flipside of all this? Why are we so quick on dismissing the ramifications on the opposide side of the spectrum?

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There was a bit of sarcasm there.  It does not translate well.  Of course not every Muslim in the world will go crazy.  Its the 2nd largest religion, and has just as many extremists as say Christianity.  I'm not saying the crazy ones are any more retarded than any other religion.  But, if there was a picture released, I can guarantee that more lives would be lost.  How many people died because someone drew a picture of Mohammad?  Granted the vast majority of Muslims are not followers of Osama's doctrines, there are plenty that would use the release of his pic as an excuse to act a fool.

When I stated that Osama was a savage, I was stating that he was calling for the deaths of America and it's citizens and loads of other countries as well.  I'm not arguing weather his opinion is right or wrong or even justified, because it may be.  This whole religious back and forth is much to complicated for me to pass judgement on.  What I was saying was that if he was going to be so adamant that other people should die, no one should be shocked when he dies.  Live by the sword, die by it kind of thing.

I didn't clarify myself well in my original post.  I forgot I wasn't posting in the gspot.  Thanks for your reply.
 

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I agree with you that people in the U.S. government and/or media probably just fabricated the idea that Bin Laden was armed and that was why they shot him.  On the other hand, I'm personally not too preoccupied with that.  Especially considering they were weighing the option of just dropping a bomb on him in the first place. I think the fact that they were considering going the bombing route shows they weren't too worried about taking Bin Laden alive.  And considering his admitted participation in the 9/11 attacks, I'm glad he's gone.  They may not have gone about it technically in the right way but ultimately, I think the world is better off with him gone.

He never admitted involvement in 9-11, in fact he denied involvement.  The video that US soldiers supposedly found in the rubble of Afghanistan in Oct. 2001 was proved to be fake when a close-up image of the man said to be Bin Laden was shown to be a man with a different face then that of Bin Ladens.
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Brian you are absolutely incorrect. Please check your facts before posting. He certainly did admit to it in 2004
 

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Brian you are absolutely incorrect. Please check your facts before posting. He certainly did admit to it in 2004


Give me a link
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The part that didn't sit well with me the most was the people partying. I know, that's just the trash society produces but if you claim to be morally superior, act accordingly, at least and don't cheer for the death of a man.
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The part that didn't sit well with me the most was the people partying. I know, that's just the trash society produces but if you claim to be morally superior, act accordingly, at least and don't cheer for the death of a man.

Well, remember he's not a real man, but he's a monster... He was such a monster that they wanted to provide him with great dignity in a speedy burial at sea and not shame the monster by showing his photos... because America has such great respect for the Muslim world they wouldn't want to do any such thing as provide evidence for their claims.  That might inflame the Muslim world to show that the US government was telling the truth about the operation.  ;)
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Brian you are absolutely incorrect. Please check your facts before posting. He certainly did admit to it in 2004


Give me a link

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/binladen_10-29-04.html

Just one of many.  I wont waste my time posting up all the others.  I trust you will view PBS as a reliable source.
 

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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/binladen_10-29-04.html

Just one of many.  I wont waste my time posting up all the others.  I trust you will view PBS as a reliable source.

That video was a fake.  Look at the closeups.   http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osamatape2.html

Then you have testimony from top Arabic scholars and translators of Bin Laden...   http://www.physics911.net/kevinbarrett
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I believe its the Bin Laden on the left that took credit for the attacks and not the guy on the right. The guy on the right denied involvement in the attacks right after Sept 11 2001. citations below:

http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/us/inv.binladen.denial_1_bin-laden-taliban-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar

This is the smoking gun.........official CIA documents pg.157 in PDF format specifically stating Bin Laden denies involvment in attacks
http://www.cfr.org/terrorism/bin-laden-statements-1994-2004/p17243?breadcrumb=%2Fissue%2F135%2Fterrorism

Download the file and see for urself.......Council on Foreign relations website.
Bottom line is Usama was a CIA asset who had close ties to the intelligence community of the United States.

And for shits and giggles:
Cia Admitting to the Washington Post that they staged Fake videos of Osama and Sadam
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/05/cia_group_had_wacky_ideas_to_d.html?hpid=news-col-blog

Sure there are contradictary accounts of what happened with US media sources but this creates doubt on the official story and all the allegations made to the guilty party.
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I think we can call this suspended in disbelief syndrome or maybe cognitive dissonance.

The photos, just look at them god dammit, completely different skin tone, the hair, the facial structure, you are being laughed at!

This is a man who was on dialysis for fuck sake, wake the fuck up

I have no idea who they get killed, we don't have any idea who they killed, they buried the evidence, but they say trust us and still people look up to them like they were their parents.

I put it to you that he was killed years ago, but stating that back then would have left their war on terrorism mantra severely crippled

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I can't believe how many people actually still believe that bin laden is responsible for 9/11. There is so much overwhelming evidence against it, yet because people's tv's haven't told them that this is indeed true, they will never even seriously consider it.

Absolutely under a state of hypnosis and have no idea.