Author Topic: Snoop Dogg Talks Detox “Dr. Dre Has Wrong People In His Environment”  (Read 4353 times)

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Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.


but see that's what i'm sayin.  BOTH of them know that they need each other for this album, maybe not from top to bottom like "The Chronic" but I can't see Dre's album being OFFICIAL without Daz on it and Daz know he needs to be on "Detox" becuz "Detox" at this point is bigger than Dr. Dre, it's like literally the soul  of his generation.  Becuz after "Detox", it's pretty much completely all about everybody else who wasn't involved in Ruthless Records and Death Row Records.


I hope what you wrote was a joke. By this logic, "2001" wasn't an "official" Dr. Dre album because there wasn't anything from Daz? GTFOH. No offense to Daz, but everyone that listened to the album probably didn't notice or care that Daz was absent from that album.

It's a shame that Daz wasn't on "2001" though, i'm not sayin' that he was needed. Daz had one of his dopest verses on "The Chronic".

Shame? Yes.
Was he sorely missed? Absolutely not.

If I were Dre and heard what Daz was saying, I'd have done the same thing and disassociate myself with him.
 

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Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :



if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

 

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"The wrong people in his environment" = Label execs (Jimmy), current pop artists (Akon, Gaga), producers who have no business being near Detox (Swizz, Alex da Kid)

A very small part of my mind thinks what Dre is putting out is being controlled.  Not to get all conspiracy-theory on yall, but it seems like the current pop sound is a formulaic money maker for the music industry in general, and the industry will do what it can to keep that formula going to keep the cash coming in, EVEN if it means not releasing music that threatens the status quo. Twice already...TWICE...Dre has changed the game with an album that the mainstream crossed over to and made everyone switch up their style.  Problem is that style is not that easy to imitate and produce identical sales figures.  A game-changing Dre album in 2011 the way all his fans know he is capable of producing, that is capable of obliterating the musical landscape, would grab huge instant and long term sales.  HOWEVER, if you put something out that kills the current popular sound then it hurts the sales of those hundreds of already established artists, and in turn the labels themselves (i.e. how many hair-metal bands were there before Nirvana dropped Nevermind, and how many were left standing when the dust settled).  

Dre putting out a new sound can make millions for Interscope. But if the mainstream pubic crosses over to that sound and decides that the current crop is played out, then Interscope and the other labels will lose millions more because the new sound won't be as easy to replicate, and because the cost to produce better quality music will be much greater than what the popular stuff costs to make now.

I don't doubt that label is deciding what Detox will be.  Detox to them is now just a brand name that has been built up over a decade.  There is a reason behind everything.  Dre's recent output of subpar music doesn't necessarily mean he is making the choices of what we get to hear.....I'm just sayin.  
 

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Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :



if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png
 

Quadruple OG

Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :



if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png

From the look of that picture, I think it was taken before Dre left Death Row
 

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Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :



+1 for that photo, this is why i love the dubb  8)

if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png
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if i member correctly, Daz and Bad Azz were in a scene wit Snoop n Dre - in "the Wash" movie (2000 or 2001)


 

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the picture is definately not from 95 - 96. Look at the playstation controllers, the dual shocks came out in 98 - 99. so it has to be from the 2001 era.

back to the topic.. it's really sad what's happening with this album, maybe dre should just have stopped talkin' about it in 06
 

Okka

if i member correctly, Daz and Bad Azz were in a scene wit Snoop n Dre - in "the Wash" movie (2000 or 2001)

Yeah, that's true. Buyin' weed from Snoop in that scene.

the picture is definately not from 95 - 96. Look at the playstation controllers, the dual shocks came out in 98 - 99. so it has to be from the 2001 era.

Yeah, i'm almost 100% sure it's not. Here's what wikipedia said about the DualShock controllers:

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The DualShock was introduced in Japan in late 1997, and launched in the North American market in May 1998.
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bouli77

Can wish for it all you want, but there's no chance in hell Dre and Daz ever work together.

Yeah, but i think they still cool though. I got a picture of them and Snoop, Nate Dogg and B-Real that was probably taken back in 2000 or somethin'.

are you talking about this picture okka :



if so, that aint b-real but johnny j, so i guess this pictures dates back from 95-96.

Nah, that's B-Real. Here's a hiqh quality version of that picture, real rare.

http://i51.tinypic.com/okd06u.png

props for the picture. damn you're right. he really looked like Johnny J from far though lol. which was the basis for my whole argument. dual shocks indeed came out during spring 1998 (at least out here in france).
 

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I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is daz going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him
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real talk by snoop  detox is almost a joke now
 

Quadruple OG

I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.
 

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Let me add Terrace Martin to that "additional production assistance/live instrumentation credits".  Terrace can play a few notes on them synthesizers
 

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I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!
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Okka

I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".

"DPG Eulogy" came out in 2005 and that DVD had Daz and Emanuel Dean talkin' about Dre stealin' credit from them.
 

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I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".

"DPG Eulogy" came out in 2005 and that DVD had Daz and Emanuel Dean talkin' about Dre stealin' credit from them.


but that was something we had already heard at that point.  i get what you're saying but it's not like in 2005 Daz was running around saying that he was the mastermind of "The Chronic" just to save his career or gain any accolades or anything of that sort.  it's just like 50 talking about the real Ja Rule back from day at this point if some1 asked him a question or he wanted to clown about it for a second.  Most of the world doesn't have the insight nor share the same compassion about this type of shit that we do.  


In real life I betchu' that Daz and Dre would be cool today.  Maybe not the best of buddies but way more than cool enough to make some music together.  After all Dre is givin everybody the green light to go ahead and talk about their work on "Detox" and is giving people credit in the credits.  I'm just not buying that there is any real beef in 2011 over SOME of the production credits of "The Chronic" album.  Didn't Daz get $28Million or something like that from Suge anyway for his work?.
 

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i think when suge filed bankrupcy it made it so daz couldnt collect or some shit.

i doubt daz is even a blip on dres radar...

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Mid 2009, Daz asked about being on Detox:

"Naw Dre ain't gonna put me on there, he busy playa hatin"

Was on UStream, when he was going on every single day.
 

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I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!

I'm sorry but that's a rather ridiculous statement. What can Daz bring to the table that's worthy of being on Detox? Pretty much nothing. He's a hypocrite when it came to what he had to say about Dre because Daz uses numerous co-producers that probably do a bulk of the work. And when he doesn't use them his music sucks. Soopafly, Mike Dean, Ivan Johnson are what made Daz's productions dope. Not Daz himself. I'm a Daz fan and always will be, but on the real he doesn't belong on Detox.
 

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fuck dre, jimmy and em three closet fags
 

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no matter how many post be written i really doubt if Dre himself gives a fuck. He's probably more of a businessman than musician who cares about his fans so as long as the formula makes $$$ for him then he's cool with that. He has just put out his second best charting single in his whole solo career so i guess he's happy about that and wants to follow INAD route. sad but probably true. He don't give a fuck about you, you and you. Money are his beloved and true fanbase...
 

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I'm sure they've been around each other. But no way is dre going to offer daz the opportunity to work with him again. Which is weird cuz he forgave doc, rbx, and a few other people that shitted on him


But they weren't going on for years calling Dr. Dre a fraud behind the boards. Daz had been dissing Dre as far back as '96.


no he hasn't.  last time i ever heard Daz talk about Dre like that was 2000/2002 (i think).  Daz ain't been worried about Dre.  Sure he's claimed his fame to "The Chronic" but so has everybody else and so is everybody now with "Detox".  


I'm tellin' u; without Daz/Tha Dogg Pound there is no REAL "Detox" (it's like "Starwars" without R2-D2 and C3Po).  There's just certain elements that this album has to have in order for it to be wat it's "supposed to be".  Ain't no1 sayin put tha nigga on the lead single but if/when that collaboration goes down it'll be like the "missing piece".  


"Detox" is more than just an album, it's an event!

I'm sorry but that's a rather ridiculous statement. What can Daz bring to the table that's worthy of being on Detox? Pretty much nothing. He's a hypocrite when it came to what he had to say about Dre because Daz uses numerous co-producers that probably do a bulk of the work. And when he doesn't use them his music sucks. Soopafly, Mike Dean, Ivan Johnson are what made Daz's productions dope. Not Daz himself. I'm a Daz fan and always will be, but on the real he doesn't belong on Detox.

I'll tell you what Daz can bring.... A vibe. A vibe from a group that mesh well together and will push Dre to the levels he needs to be; not like his current group of YES men who seem to slop his top after hearing the 100th generic piano beat/forced chorus tracsk he's been producing for the last 6-7 years.

Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.

No-one can blame Interscope for the detox saga because all they want is sales at the endve the day and they dont give a fuck how they get them. And if the current leaks were good enough then it'd be out by now.
 

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Just like everyone says Dre brings out the best in Snoop... they bring out the best in Dre, the facts don't lie. Listen to Doggystyle, NWA albums, Both chronics, Doggfood and No-One Can Do It better, there's a vibe in those albums between them guys you can feel and that's what's missing.


I agree. Snoop shined on the NWA albums.