Spin Thread: It's no coincidence that Pac's best album was his most east coast

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

Tom, first off your signature and avatar is disgusting.  It makes it hard for me to read your posts.  You may claim you aren't into porn anymore, but that filth is just as bad...

But anyway... to stay on topic, that's arguable that Me Against The World was his best album.  Because All Eyez On Me was the album that catapulted him to the top of the rap game.   I mean, he was just another star in hip-hop with Me Against the World.  He was another Ice Cube, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Nas, or any other popular platinum selling artist.  But he wasn't running hip-hop and dominating the game like Michael Jordan.

It was All Eyez On Me that officially made him the Michael Jordan of hip-hop.  And as far as darker, introspective sounding albums go, the Mackevelli album had a similar theme and sound to Me Against The World and is certainly comparable as well.

So all 3 are 5 mic classic, flawless albums.  Me Against the World, All Eyez On Me, and 7 Day Theory

[Sir Petey]

infinite is a  confused muslim honkey his opinions never count.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

infinite is a  confused muslim honkey his opinions never count.

hahahaha, and you've never said a meaningful word in your life.  I don't think you know how to express anything more than wise-ass sarcasm and humor that was funny in 6th grade!

[Jimmy H.]

Tom, first off your signature and avatar is disgusting.  It makes it hard for me to read your posts.  You may claim you aren't into porn anymore, but that filth is just as bad...

But anyway... to stay on topic, that's arguable that Me Against The World was his best album.  Because All Eyez On Me was the album that catapulted him to the top of the rap game.   I mean, he was just another star in hip-hop with Me Against the World.  He was another Ice Cube, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Nas, or any other popular platinum selling artist.  But he wasn't running hip-hop and dominating the game like Michael Jordan.

It was All Eyez On Me that officially made him the Michael Jordan of hip-hop.  And as far as darker, introspective sounding albums go, the Mackevelli album had a similar theme and sound to Me Against The World and is certainly comparable as well.

So all 3 are 5 mic classic, flawless albums.  Me Against the World, All Eyez On Me, and 7 Day Theory

"All Eyez" was a fun, West Coast party album with a lot of his best records on it but I'm amazed at how overlooked the filler is. Yes, it brought him to a new level as a commercial artist but it was more Lebron James going to the Heat than some kind of Michael Jordan move. He went over to Death Row and created some real controversy but it was combining two established formulas to make something huge. There's no denying the impact of "All Eyez On Me" on pop music but artistically, it's not even close to Pac's best work. It's quantity over quality.

[Sir Petey]

infinite is a  confused muslim honkey his opinions never count.

hahahaha, and you've never said a meaningful word in your life.  I don't think you know how to express anything more than wise-ass sarcasm and humor that was funny in 6th grade!

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

infinite is a  confused muslim honkey his opinions never count.

hahahaha, and you've never said a meaningful word in your life.  I don't think you know how to express anything more than wise-ass sarcasm and humor that was funny in 6th grade!

Another meaningless post!!  Is your goal to make everyday as worthless as the previous one?

[Your favorite posters favorite poster]

Tom, first off your signature and avatar is disgusting.  It makes it hard for me to read your posts.  You may claim you aren't into porn anymore, but that filth is just as bad...

But anyway... to stay on topic, that's arguable that Me Against The World was his best album.  Because All Eyez On Me was the album that catapulted him to the top of the rap game.   I mean, he was just another star in hip-hop with Me Against the World.  He was another Ice Cube, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Nas, or any other popular platinum selling artist.  But he wasn't running hip-hop and dominating the game like Michael Jordan.

It was All Eyez On Me that officially made him the Michael Jordan of hip-hop.  And as far as darker, introspective sounding albums go, the Mackevelli album had a similar theme and sound to Me Against The World and is certainly comparable as well.

So all 3 are 5 mic classic, flawless albums.  Me Against the World, All Eyez On Me, and 7 Day Theory

So the Ultimate Warrior shaking the ropes is disgusting ?  You got some issues Bri

Back to the topic, yea sure AEOM took him to the top but that doesn't say anything about the quality of music.  IWW made Nas a big name but not his best album.  Murda Muzik is Mobb Deeps best selling album but not their best album or even 2nd best.  I believe 2001 sold more than the chronic, does it make it a more impactful album. ?  See sales and all that don't matter in this discussion.  As far as quality goes, Pac's best album was MATW and that album sounded like it could of came from an east coast rapper.

[bouli77]

Its no coincidence his best album was his most east coast sounding album.

How is that ? It's not that i don't necessarily agree with you it's just you come up with a point with no explanation behind. Why is it no coincidence that his best album was his most eastcoast album ? Because eastcoast music is better ?

And if you groupies can look past the 2pac ties, the outlawz were fucking wack.  The only outlaw worth a damn was Hussein Fatal and he wasn't even on the damn album

I disagree. I'm not a huge fan of the outlawz, never been but saying they're wack is reaching imo. Fatal and Kadafi were the best, Napoleon and EDI were potent rappers (and edi is a talented producer too). they were never on Pac's level but they had talent.

but yeah Me against the world is my favorite pac album, no doubt. my favorite song are the ones with a westcoast feel though (Death Around The Corner, Fuck The World, Young Niggaz, Heavy in the Game). although I play AEOM more regularly (which doesn't mean i listen to it very often though) due to the bigger amount of material on the album.

I disagree with the filler part on All Eyez On Me. I know where people are coming from but from the first day I listened to that album I immediately loved almost all the tracks. But the tracks definitely lack focus, content and depth at times, so that's why I prefer Me Against The World. I mean Pac and his conspirators rarely stick to the song's theme (if there is any), the lyrics can be either nonsensical, shallow or ridiculous but the vibe is so great and the production is amazing (thanks to especially DJ Quik, Johnny J, Mike Mosley & Rick Rock).

[Tutlock]

infinite is a  confused muslim honkey his opinions never count.

hahahaha, and you've never said a meaningful word in your life.  I don't think you know how to express anything more than wise-ass sarcasm and humor that was funny in 6th grade!

Another meaningless post!!  Is your goal to make everyday as worthless as the previous one?

how can this guy be a mod ?  writing long posts doesn´t make someone intelligent for fucks sake .



agreed, AEOM is my favorite from him , though i´ve always felt his albums had some fillers . 7 day theory comes second

[Sir Petey]

infinite is a  confused muslim honkey his opinions never count.

hahahaha, and you've never said a meaningful word in your life.  I don't think you know how to express anything more than wise-ass sarcasm and humor that was funny in 6th grade!

Another meaningless post!!  Is your goal to make everyday as worthless as the previous one?

[HighEyeCue]

AEOM has more standout tracks but for me its a toss up between MATW and Makaveli. I'd probably go with Me Against The World because the production is better, 7 Day Theory had alot of no name producers with a raw sound but the mixing was a little poor.

[OG Jaydc]

For me it's his second best album. Behind makavelli. And membersof outlawz were featured on me against the world.

And Jimmy h. If I remember correctly you called life after death a classic, but to me that's just subjective. You say people overlook the filler on aeom but for me I only dislike whatz ya phone #. Where as life after death I skip almost half the song because thier just filler to me. Now ready to die is a flawless album but life after death seemed like biggies attempt at his own aeom.Which in my eyes he failed at.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

"All Eyez" was a fun, West Coast party album with a lot of his best records on it but I'm amazed at how overlooked the filler is. Yes, it brought him to a new level as a commercial artist but it was more Lebron James going to the Heat than some kind of Michael Jordan move. He went over to Death Row and created some real controversy but it was combining two established formulas to make something huge. There's no denying the impact of "All Eyez On Me" on pop music but artistically, it's not even close to Pac's best work. It's quantity over quality.

[OG Hack Wilson]

Sounding album.  Me Against the World.  Its no coincidence his best album was his most east coast sounding album.  He even showed loved and respect to NY with Old School.  It was his most introspective and poetic album and hands down his best.  Its not AEOM because it was to commercial to be his best.  And its not Makaveli because it basically intorduced the Outlawz to the world.  Granted they were on a number of songs before that but Makaveli should of been called Makaveli and the Outlawz.  And if you groupies can look past the 2pac ties, the outlawz were fucking wack.  The only outlaw worth a damn was Hussein Fatal and he wasn't even on the damn album

Makaveli had 12 songs


4 with the Outlawz



that makes no sense but I do think MATW was Pac's second best overall album to Makaveli

[Jimmy H.]

"Me Against The World" and "Makaveli" are the quintesential Pac albums to me. He had some standout tracks on his early stuff but he never quite had that balance that he did on these two.

I believe I've said it before but "All Eyez" is like watching the Dream Team perform. Yes, they excel but it's the best fucking people in the game doing what they do best. "Makaveli" is the kind of album that anyone that wants to be a true artist should emulate. Here was a guy who had just about every super producer and artist at his disposal and he went twelve tracks deep with some lesser known producers and outside of "Toss It Up", just used mostly unknowns from his own team. Someone like The Game needs that. "L.A.X." should have been him saying, "Okay. I did my album with world famous guests and producers. Here's a record where I show you what I can do." But record labels don't have that confidence in artists anymore.