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Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« on: January 14, 2003, 06:15:25 PM »
Ive actually heard people say that, but i cant agree with that, especially when the RZA is still around

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2003, 06:44:37 PM »
yeah, RZA still holds it down
 

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2003, 07:21:36 PM »
i at least can bump RZA more than once...he has replay value...tho his beats have been lame lately...i just dont think eminem is that great of a producer...he hasnt done enough production to be considered the best...hes produced for himself, jayz, 50 cent and nas...who else?...thats really it...look at all the people RZA has worked with...look at Quik..Bosko...Hutch...etc...lyrically theyre not that great...but hey theyre beats are ten times that of eminems....i still think Evidence is a much better rapper producer...
 

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2003, 07:27:20 PM »
Eminem is better than RZA on the mic...
 

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2003, 08:15:01 PM »
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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2003, 08:45:39 PM »
Eminem is better than RZA on the mic...
 

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2003, 12:07:23 AM »
Yeah Em is better than Rza lyrically,. but the margin is not as big as a dump RZA takes on Ems production.

Production wise its not even close, but lyrically it kinda is.
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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2003, 12:12:29 AM »
OMG  are you KIDDING me, LMAO


rza has a large  production catelouge, yeah , but damn NONE of his beats are as creative or complex than Em's few


Dj Quik had the crown as best Producer/Rapper til em started in



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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2003, 07:09:29 AM »
RZA is creative and IMO one of the best producers in the game...you claiming that Cuban Linx lacks creativity ? It's not your production catalogue's size, but as a producer RZA's just alot better...as an MC it's Em, even though I consider RZA an underrated lyricist.
 

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2003, 07:21:09 AM »
LMAO @ Eminem's production being more complex and creative than RZA's.

Scarface is definitely up there since he produces 80% of his albums.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2003, 07:30:53 AM by WestCoastVeteran »
 

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2003, 07:23:11 AM »
rza, dj premier, prodeje ( from the SCC ), quik, dj muggs,
and more...

are all better than em on the productions...

i dont even wanna talk bout all the rappers that are better lyrically than em

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2003, 11:22:19 AM »
I haven't heard shit from Rza as of late.  The last hot shit was "Tha Jump Off."  His raps can be too complex and nothing makes sense.

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2003, 12:52:38 PM »
Jake, you'se a fool

first of all Dre probably gives Em a helpin hand in the studio plus he has peeps co producing for him too...lol @ eminem even in the SAME FUCKIN SENTENCE as RZA in terms of production

lyrically its close but Em takes it....
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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2003, 01:02:31 PM »
RZA's production is better than Em's by a margin that is bigger than the lyrical gap between the two.
DJ Quik comes with amazing beats, and even though he isn't great lyrically he has improved his rapping a lot over the years.
I would also say that I consider J-Zone to be a better rapper/producer than Eminem, and if we are counting groups in this, The Beatnuts are also better at rapping/producing than Em.

To me Eminem's production is pretty lame really, it's always either poppy, or guitar driven, there isn't enough variety in it for him to be considered a classic producer.

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2003, 04:44:48 PM »
i really like kanye west's rappin skills his beatz are already tight so watch out for him 2 blow in 2003
 

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2003, 06:31:11 PM »
rza fuckin makes me snore, his shit's so boring, em got hype , he can get one bouncin and come up wit so much crazy shit, go eminem!
 

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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2003, 08:56:11 PM »
I heard Rockwilder was rappin again u better watch out for that shit!1
 

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2003, 05:37:28 AM »
RZA's production is better than Em's by a margin that is bigger than the lyrical gap between the two.
DJ Quik comes with amazing beats, and even though he isn't great lyrically he has improved his rapping a lot over the years.
I would also say that I consider J-Zone to be a better rapper/producer than Eminem, and if we are counting groups in this, The Beatnuts are also better at rapping/producing than Em.

To me Eminem's production is pretty lame really, it's always either poppy, or guitar driven, there isn't enough variety in it for him to be considered a classic producer.

word up !
you gotta mention the beatnuts...
totally forgot bout em

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2003, 05:55:46 AM »
I don't think Em's producing matches his rapping skills, but I have been impressed by what he's been coming out with recently.

If I were to go on matching skills I would defo put the likes of Quik and RZA over Em. Em doesn't have nearly enough beats to match their catalogue of classics yet.




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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2003, 03:07:57 PM »
Jake, you'se a fool

first of all Dre probably gives Em a helpin hand in the studio plus he has peeps co producing for him too...lol @ eminem even in the SAME FUCKIN SENTENCE as RZA in terms of production

lyrically its close but Em takes it....

ok i'm the fool.... :o

this is the boy that said he likes B2K
thinks DPGC is better than dogg food
thinks "bang to dis" is better than 90% of em's catelouge
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but i'm the fool.... Snatch Please!


yeah no doubt i do believe and know that dre helps em, BUT em for the most part comes up with those melodies and concepts all on his own. and his 80% or so is far more innovative and impressive musically than RZA's simplistic style ......it's not my fault you can't distinguish good music from great music.


and props to whoever mentioned the Beatnuts, they're amongst the few i respect in rap still


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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2003, 03:54:45 PM »
fuckin hell, eminem jus started producin n ppl already comparin him to gza, dj quik and co.......man dj khalil is on another level production wise to eminem, at the moment, eminem is jus another personho sounds like a cheaper version of dre with a lil mo guitars in it..........listen to dres verse on xzibits new track.........even tho its pretty wack.......theres a good line in it"watch out for fake shit that sounds identical" or sum shit like that, its tru

eminem cant be put into a great producer record for me until he brings his own new style into the game that ppl be feelin, like dj quik n co have...................and produce alot of beats for other ppl will help him with that

but on a side tip, his pretty dope on his own production..........but myabe cuz he got mad skills on the mic

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Re:Eminem is NOT the best rapper/producer in the game
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2003, 06:39:45 PM »
I don't really like RZA's flow or production.
 

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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2003, 09:58:42 PM »
I don't really like RZA's flow or production.

same here

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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2003, 07:49:02 PM »
U guys are dumb...Em's been producing since day one...Eminem is the best rapper/producer out there without a doubt...The beat to "Lose Yourself" shits 90% of Hip-Hop Beats you hear nowadays...Same with "My Name", "Superman", "Cleanin Out My Closet", "Say Goodbye To Hollywood","Rabbit Run", "Way I Am", "Soldier", and a whole lot more...PeACe
 

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