Once and for all, whats the infatuation with Death Row records ?

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Why you got to be so racist Brian. No need to call people monkeys.

Seriously. And he calls me a bigot.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

LOL. WTF do you know about me? Just cause I don't have a man-crush on 2Pac, I am a bigot and and have a retarded personal evolution? From all the info you spilled about your life through threads and AIM, it is pretty clear that you are the bigot. Who is the one who has posted support of the ideas of white inferiority? Who is the one that blames the Jews for the problems of the world? Who is the one who makes ignorant statements like The Chronic being what Black people are like? You can take as many trips to Africa you like, you are still a cracker from Kansas City who will never experience what it's like being Black.

And as for retarded personal evolution, you are the one who is has arrested development. Aren't you in your 30s? You need to man up, accept that the peak era of West Coast hip hop is behind us and stop ignoring your son.

wow... just about everything you just said is a lie. 

So Jews are behind every problem in the world?  I never said that.  And my best homie at the forum is a Jew named Sccit.

The Chronic shows what black people are like?  LOL... your gonna believe Tom, just cause he said I said that?  In that case he told me on AIM he is a faggot and dresses in womens clothes.  Do you believe that? 

Im in my 30's?   No, actually Im still in my 20's.

White people are inferior to blacks?  I'm not gonna lie and say everyones equal.  And in the past I may of said something like that.  But overall I think you'd have to say every race has some areas they excell in and some areas they fall behind in and that theirs exceptions to every rule.

[OG Hack Wilson]

I agree with the infatuation part of the post but I see nothing wrong with still listening to the music from the Death Row era. I mean people still listen to the Beatles, don't they?

yes

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

The Beatles comparison does actually bring up a great point that shits on the thread-starters premise.

Why are whites in Rock-n-Roll allowed to have their legends live on, like the Beatles or Elvis Presley?  But you have a problem with the legends of hip-hop, and the dynasty of Death Row living on?


...this is nothing new in music and art.  Look at how people still revere Bob Marley all over the world.  He's even considered a Rastafarian Prophet to many.   Some music and art actually becomes more valuable with time.  Look at Van Gogh, an artist who helped inspire Pac's whole career.  I wouldn't be surprised if in 3000 there is a huge Pac resurgence and he becomes the #1 artist in the world all over again.  I mean, why shouldn't hip-hop have it's hero's like every other genre of music.  This is why Chuck D was spreading around the myth that Pac had faked his death shortly after Pac's murder.  Because Chuck D understood that if whites could have Elvis live, why couldn't blacks have 2pac sightings?

I find it laughable that you guys have grown up and listening to Death Row and Death Row affiliate artists all your life and spent 10 years on a forum talking about them; yet you want to be the first to reject them.  With friends like you guys who neeeds enemies?  What it all boils down to is you guys being pieces of shit and wanting to bring everything down to your level.

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I mean I know your lives have all been impacted so much by Shakespeare, really, I'm surprised you guys even post here, I mean I'm sure their are forums and spots on the net where you guys can post about Shakespeare and Mozart since their legacy has so greatly formed and impacted your lives.  

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LOL. WTF do you know about me? Just cause I don't have a man-crush on 2Pac, I am a bigot and and have a retarded personal evolution? From all the info you spilled about your life through threads and AIM, it is pretty clear that you are the bigot. Who is the one who has posted support of the ideas of white inferiority? Who is the one that blames the Jews for the problems of the world? Who is the one who makes ignorant statements like The Chronic being what Black people are like? You can take as many trips to Africa you like, you are still a cracker from Kansas City who will never experience what it's like being Black.

And as for retarded personal evolution, you are the one who is has arrested development. Aren't you in your 30s? You need to man up, accept that the peak era of West Coast hip hop is behind us and stop ignoring your son.

wow... just about everything you just said is a lie. 

So Jews are behind every problem in the world?  I never said that.  And my best homie at the forum is a Jew named Sccit.

The Chronic shows what black people are like?  LOL... your gonna believe Tom, just cause he said I said that?  In that case he told me on AIM he is a faggot and dresses in womens clothes.  Do you believe that? 

Im in my 30's?   No, actually Im still in my 20's.

White people are inferior to blacks?  I'm not gonna lie and say everyones equal.  And in the past I may of said something like that.  But overall I think you'd have to say every race has some areas they excell in and some areas they fall behind in and that theirs exceptions to every rule.

Actually Brian you did tell me that on AIM several years ago, I was maybe a year removed out of high school.  I distinctly remember the convo because I remember asking you from listening to Nas what do you assume QB housing projects is like and you said they make it sound like a giant block party.  I mentioned QB because you said the Chronic was a accurate description of a black man in America.  And I used QB as an example to not believe everything you hear.   Everything I say about you is the truth Brian, maybe I exaggerate here and there.  But did you not tell me at one point your ex father in law thought you were a dead beat because you were having trouble supporting you son and holding down a job.  Was it not you just a couple of years ago that failed as a cross road trucker and had your father bail you out once again, thats what you told me Brian.  I won't lie Bri, I have exaggerated some truths about you.  I admit that 100%.  But every exaggeration was started from a seed you planted.  And now Brian you can come here and deny all that and everyone here will basically have to side with my word or your word and to be honest I could care less who believe who but I know what you told me in the past

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No one is shitting on the music that was produced by death row between 92-96, jesus fucking christ you guys are fucking morons.  I even stated elsewhere in this thread that music was timeless.  Do you guys fucking read at all

[Your favorite posters favorite poster]

The Beatles comparison does actually bring up a great point that shits on the thread-starters premise.

Why are whites in Rock-n-Roll allowed to have their legends live on, like the Beatles or Elvis Presley?  But you have a problem with the legends of hip-hop, and the dynasty of Death Row living on?


...this is nothing new in music and art.  Look at how people still revere Bob Marley all over the world.  He's even considered a Rastafarian Prophet to many.   Some music and art actually becomes more valuable with time.  Look at Van Gogh, an artist who helped inspire Pac's whole career.  I wouldn't be surprised if in 3000 there is a huge Pac resurgence and he becomes the #1 artist in the world all over again.  I mean, why shouldn't hip-hop have it's hero's like every other genre of music.  This is why Chuck D was spreading around the myth that Pac had faked his death shortly after Pac's murder.  Because Chuck D understood that if whites could have Elvis live, why couldn't blacks have 2pac sightings?

I find it laughable that you guys have grown up and listening to Death Row and Death Row affiliate artists all your life and spent 10 years on a forum talking about them; yet you want to be the first to reject them.  With friends like you guys who neeeds enemies?  What it all boils down to is you guys being pieces of shit and wanting to bring everything down to your level.

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I mean I know your lives have all been impacted so much by Shakespeare, really, I'm surprised you guys even post here, I mean I'm sure their are forums and spots on the net where you guys can post about Shakespeare and Mozart since their legacy has so greatly formed and impacted your lives.  

Jesus fucking christ this isn't even about Shakespeare and Pac.  But since you won't get off that how does it feel to know you hero looked up to Shakespeare and even crafted his work after Shakespeares ?  And once again shitbrick, NO WHERE IN THIS THREAD DID ANYONE SHIT ON DEATH ROWS MUSIC YOU DELUSIONAL PIECE OF SHIT.

[Sikotic™]

Seriously, who said you shouldn't listen to music from the Death Row era?

I know y'all aren't illiterate. Seems like y'all will do anything to change the topic at hand.

[Jimmy H.]

The Beatles comparison does actually bring up a great point that shits on the thread-starters premise.

Why are whites in Rock-n-Roll allowed to have their legends live on, like the Beatles or Elvis Presley?  But you have a problem with the legends of hip-hop, and the dynasty of Death Row living on?


...this is nothing new in music and art.  Look at how people still revere Bob Marley all over the world.  He's even considered a Rastafarian Prophet to many.   Some music and art actually becomes more valuable with time.  Look at Van Gogh, an artist who helped inspire Pac's whole career.  I wouldn't be surprised if in 3000 there is a huge Pac resurgence and he becomes the #1 artist in the world all over again.  I mean, why shouldn't hip-hop have it's hero's like every other genre of music.  This is why Chuck D was spreading around the myth that Pac had faked his death shortly after Pac's murder.  Because Chuck D understood that if whites could have Elvis live, why couldn't blacks have 2pac sightings?

I find it laughable that you guys have grown up and listening to Death Row and Death Row affiliate artists all your life and spent 10 years on a forum talking about them; yet you want to be the first to reject them.  With friends like you guys who neeeds enemies?  What it all boils down to is you guys being pieces of shit and wanting to bring everything down to your level.

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I mean I know your lives have all been impacted so much by Shakespeare, really, I'm surprised you guys even post here, I mean I'm sure their are forums and spots on the net where you guys can post about Shakespeare and Mozart since their legacy has so greatly formed and impacted your lives.  

Beatles are a group of artists. Death Row is a record label. A defunct record label. In regards to the white-black/Tupac-Elvis alive thing. I'm for all it on a basic level in terms of legacy but I would roll my eyes at any grown person who suggested that either is actually alive. The problem is how redudant and uninteresting it has made the board for the last 3 or so years. It's either Dr. Dre, 2Pac, or artists they've directly worked with or signed. We're not even talking six degrees. And that's fine if people want to be "obsessed fan-boys" but it's a little crazy how they think it's more dignified than a twelve-year-old girl with Britney Spears or Justin Bieber posters on her wall. Either way, you're obsessed.

I love Dr. Dre and Tupac's music. I love Marvin Gaye shit. I love all kinds of music. However, I'm not out here trying to call it "the greatest music of any time".

[Greenbrigade]

No one is shitting on the music that was produced by death row between 92-96, jesus fucking christ you guys are fucking morons.  I even stated elsewhere in this thread that music was timeless.  Do you guys fucking read at all

[Tutlock]

I feel embarrassed for a lot of posters here. 

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

 

Actually Brian you did tell me that on AIM several years ago, I was maybe a year removed out of high school.  I distinctly remember the convo because I remember asking you from listening to Nas what do you assume QB housing projects is like and you said they make it sound like a giant block party.  I mentioned QB because you said the Chronic was a accurate description of a black man in America.  And I used QB as an example to not believe everything you hear.   Everything I say about you is the truth Brian, maybe I exaggerate here and there.  But did you not tell me at one point your ex father in law thought you were a dead beat because you were having trouble supporting you son and holding down a job.  Was it not you just a couple of years ago that failed as a cross road trucker and had your father bail you out once again, thats what you told me Brian.  I won't lie Bri, I have exaggerated some truths about you.  I admit that 100%.  But every exaggeration was started from a seed you planted.  And now Brian you can come here and deny all that and everyone here will basically have to side with my word or your word and to be honest I could care less who believe who but I know what you told me in the past

Atleast you admit to exaggeration.  So why dont you try using my words exactly instead of stretching them into something else.

Saying I pictured Queensbridge as a block party somehow turned into... "Infinite says the Chronic is an accurate representation of black people".

Saying that I got stuck at the end of trucking school and had to get a loan from my dad to finish (which I paid back) turned into.... "Infinites Dad pays for everything for Infinite and Infinite hates his dad, and Infinite is a failure and so on"

And saying that my father in law doesn't think I do enough turned into.... "Infinites a dead beat Dad".


I remember all our convos Tom.  I know exactly what was said and what the intended meaning was, and what the context was.  I think you may know it too yourself, but your blinded by your desire to shit on any and everybody in an effort to bring people down to your level, cause thats what lowlife white trash people do.

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Brian the I used QB as an example because you said yourself "The Chronic is an accurate description of the black man in America". As a matter of fact I think you may of even said it yourself on this very board.  As for calling you a failure, where am I wrong ?  How many occupations have you tried and failed at ?  I know you have told me several of them the two most notable were truck driver and nurse.  But you have always cried the blues about it or at least last time we spoke you did.  About you being a deadbeat, a few weeks after you told me your ex father in law said you were basically a deadbeat and in your own words you said you were having finacial problems you came here talking about you're going on a trip to Africa.  C'mon son cut the bullshit, you yourself said your having finacial troubles and trouble supporting your son but you got the money for a month long trip to Africa.  That's some deadbeat Dad bullshit no matter how you try and twist it.  About your Dad still paying for your ass.  You said it yourself he gave you a loan to help pay for it.  He also bailed your ass out when you failed as a trucker.  Which is kinda funny because you used to come on here talking about how truckers are red neck morons yet you failed as a trucker.  But as of the last time we spoke on aim which I do admit was a while ago, you yourself said you Dad was still pauing your car insurance and phone bill.  And about you hating your dad, you never actually said but when you were going through your entire I'm better than you because I'm muslim phase you said your Dad was trying to reach out to you, trying to get a better understanding of you and islam.  But you said you weren't having that.  You used to bitch all the time about how your Dad thought throwing money at you would fix the problem.  You would bitch about how your Dad liked to drink a little too much instead of dealing with family issues.  Yea you never said you hate your Dad but it was strongly implied.  Brian, these were your words, not mine words or anyone elses.

And Brian, for the records I've told you why I exposed you like this and it had nothing to do with me trying to tear people down to my level, or your friendship with NIK, or our differing beliefs.  It was beacus of your holier than thou attitude.  That with all your issues and troubles you still came here talking about how your a better person because you only listened to a certain type of music, or you didn't watch porn, or because you're an islamic libertarian.  That's why I do what I do to you Brian.  To be honest I never had any intention of exposing you like this.  As a matter of fact when you had your son I thought you had actually changed and grown up.  It seemed like you had finally startted to respect others for their different views, opinions, and moral codes.  Remember when I told you "that's a beautiful thing" when you spoke of your son and how much he made you change the way you viewed things ?  But you still came on here with your holier than thou attitude even though your just as big a piece a shit as the rest of us.  But I know you're goin' spin this some how Brian or only read and hear what you want because your that hypocritical and your that self absorbed.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

Brian the I used QB as an example because you said yourself "The Chronic is an accurate description of the black man in America". As a matter of fact I think you may of even said it yourself on this very board.  As for calling you a failure, where am I wrong ?  How many occupations have you tried and failed at ?  I know you have told me several of them the two most notable were truck driver and nurse.  But you have always cried the blues about it or at least last time we spoke you did.  About you being a deadbeat, a few weeks after you told me your ex father in law said you were basically a deadbeat and in your own words you said you were having finacial problems you came here talking about you're going on a trip to Africa.  C'mon son cut the bullshit, you yourself said your having finacial troubles and trouble supporting your son but you got the money for a month long trip to Africa.  That's some deadbeat Dad bullshit no matter how you try and twist it.  About your Dad still paying for your ass.  You said it yourself he gave you a loan to help pay for it.  He also bailed your ass out when you failed as a trucker.  Which is kinda funny because you used to come on here talking about how truckers are red neck morons yet you failed as a trucker.  But as of the last time we spoke on aim which I do admit was a while ago, you yourself said you Dad was still pauing your car insurance and phone bill.  And about you hating your dad, you never actually said but when you were going through your entire I'm better than you because I'm muslim phase you said your Dad was trying to reach out to you, trying to get a better understanding of you and islam.  But you said you weren't having that.  You used to bitch all the time about how your Dad thought throwing money at you would fix the problem.  You would bitch about how your Dad liked to drink a little too much instead of dealing with family issues.  Yea you never said you hate your Dad but it was strongly implied.  Brian, these were your words, not mine words or anyone elses.

And Brian, for the records I've told you why I exposed you like this and it had nothing to do with me trying to tear people down to my level, or your friendship with NIK, or our differing beliefs.  It was beacus of your holier than thou attitude.  That with all your issues and troubles you still came here talking about how your a better person because you only listened to a certain type of music, or you didn't watch porn, or because you're an islamic libertarian.  That's why I do what I do to you Brian.  To be honest I never had any intention of exposing you like this.  As a matter of fact when you had your son I thought you had actually changed and grown up.  It seemed like you had finally startted to respect others for their different views, opinions, and moral codes.  Remember when I told you "that's a beautiful thing" when you spoke of your son and how much he made you change the way you viewed things ?  But you still came on here with your holier than thou attitude even though your just as big a piece a shit as the rest of us.  But I know you're goin' spin this some how Brian or only read and hear what you want because your that hypocritical and your that self absorbed.

Man, you really love to twist shit from 4 year old AIM conversations.  Which by the way I was taking you as a friend in those convo's so this is the ultimate bitch move to take my words from 4 year old AIM convo's when we were cool with each other.  Shows what a piece of shit you are.   I wouldn't even think about doing shit like that.

-Wow, that was so funny you said my dad was paying my cell phone and car insurance bills in 2007!!! LMAO!!!  Now that part wasn't even twisting truth that is just straight fucking made up shit.  I've been paying car insurance for myself since atleast 2003, with no changes to that, and cell phone bills since atleast 2003 or well before.  Also the part about my son making me change my life and the way I viewed the world, sounds nice in theory, but I think you projected that onto me, cause I don't recall experiencing that or reporting that to you.  Maybe you said something in AIM convo like, "Yo that's dope you got a son, makes you see the world different", and maybe I elaborated just feeding off of your vibe, but that would of had to of come from you.  Nothing against my son, but the path I'm on hasn't been significantly altered by him.  And if that sounds bad to you being an arm-chair father that you are, then so be it.  I'm keepin it real.

-Again, I've explained many times before.  But let me explain my financial situation for the record, and everything I say here is consistent with all our AIM convo's.  Try and deny that this isn't...

...Basically, I ain't shy about mentioning where my parents had money and where my parents helped me.  Especially not today, I may of been way naive when I was younger not wanting my parents money, but now I know just how difficult it is out there, and you have to take every advantage you can get.  That is part of what life is about is going with what works and exploiting opportunities.  So I'm not shy to say I grew up upper middle class and in a white suburban neighborhood.   I also had a hell of a lot of money from my family to go to college with after highschool or spend else where as long as I made a half-ass case to them for why I needed the money.  But I was extremely naive when I was 18 years old, and I honestly didn't want any of my parents money and I actually tried to get emancipated legally from my parents and so on.  I moved out on my own, and in my mind I was living on my own, but i admit that in reality I was steady getting money to get me out of jams all along.  This really lasted almost all the way up until 2006 all that college/post highschool money ran out completely.

-So my family money may have helped me go to California back in 2002, but it was actually some Muslims in Cali that helped me go to Hajj, and loaned me that money financially.  But my trip in 03' to Oman and the Emirates was certainly helped by that family money.

-Then by the end of 2006 I had ran out of my family money after one final trip to the Arab Gulf.  This was the same trip that I had the mental, emotional, spiritual breakdown on and so forth.  When I came back to America all the family money had ran out, and even my parents were retired and had lost their whole savings in Lucent stock, and were just living on pensions and social security.  

-So anything 2007 and on is my own money, and my own sweat.   When I went to Africa the first time I had no credit card.  So I got in a jam and started calling people in America and 3 people loaned me money to get me by that first trip to Africa.  One of them was my mom, only like 500 dollars.  When I returned back to America I immediately entered trucking school and was sponsored by a trucking company.  Then halfway through the school they found out about some traffic tickets and dropped me.  So my father paid for the rest of the class with a credit card and I paid him back throughout the year.

-My trips to Africa in 08 and 10'/11 by that time I had a credit card so there has been no need to try and borrow money from anybody, I just use a credit card when I'm in a jam and pay it back later.

-Bottom line, in situations where I've gotten money from my parents I will admit it, because I don't see any reason to be ashamed of it.  But I just don't like having the shit that I did work hard for get discredited.  So that's why I had to right a long as post clarifying which things I feel I earned on my own.   I earned those 3 Africa trips on my own and nobody can take that away from me.   Nobody can take 07 thru 11 away from me and say I didn't earn whatever I got then on my own.  


...Tom, let's tell the truth.  Is anything I said above a lie?

[Teddy Roosevelt]

White people are inferior to blacks?  I'm not gonna lie and say everyones equal.  And in the past I may of said something like that.  But overall I think you'd have to say every race has some areas they excell in and some areas they fall behind in and that theirs exceptions to every rule.

There you go. So who are you to call me (or anyone else) a bigot for not liking 2Pac as much as you do? And to top if off you start calling me a monkey.