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Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« on: January 19, 2003, 09:21:45 PM »
I think he is...I won't put him ahead of Dre but all the songs that Em produced in 2002 were dope, from the ones on his album, 8 Mile soundtrack and The Cross on Nas album...
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2003, 09:43:56 PM »
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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2003, 10:38:36 PM »
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boy...you reachin on this one

Reachin' way out beyond the realm of reality....lol
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2003, 11:37:17 PM »
who in 2002 has been better than em than
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2003, 08:35:18 AM »
What producers stood out in 2002?
 

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2003, 08:48:37 AM »
I Think Em may have had tighter produced songs than Dre did.

I mean, songs like "Square Dance," "Till I Collapse" and "Soldier" are alll tight Em produced songs.  Then he did another banger like "My Name" for X.

The songs Dre did on Truth were nothing special except for "Push Play."  Same fo Em's album, "Business" was the only good Dre produced song.  X's album as well was nothing special.

Then again he kind of made up for his weak year with "In Da Club."

So I think in 2002 the songs Em produced were tighter than the ones Dre did.

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2003, 08:54:01 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2003, 10:01:03 AM »
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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2003, 11:16:37 AM »
eminems the best! the greatest! rapper n producer! no one can fuck with him! lol......man seriously, no doubt his dope n his ill on the mic n production but pleez! how can ya call him the 2nd best producer in the game! he doesnt even hardly make beats for others! his only jus starting that! there alot of producers who are iller than him, his jus another dre sounded producer with more guitars......he needs to bring sumthang new in it, so mo niggaz will respect him

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all way  better producers at the moment

damn y'all really love eminem to bitz dont ya,lol

but fair enough, i respect your opinion, im jus givin mine

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2003, 11:51:29 AM »
He's not the 2nd best producer, he has a looooooooooooong way to go before he can be considered even close to that, sure he's one of your personal fav's but in reality he's no No.2. I am a fan of his production but be real here. Oh, and I don't see where some of you feel he's just another 'Dre sound-alike', he sounds nothing like Dre imo, he's rockier for a start, Dre is more funk orientated usually, he does layer his work well though, maybe Dre has something to do with that.....




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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2003, 12:26:34 PM »
I think he is...I won't put him ahead of Dre but all the songs that Em produced in 2002 were dope, from the ones on his album, 8 Mile soundtrack and The Cross on Nas album...



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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2003, 12:29:17 PM »
eminems the best! the greatest! rapper n producer! no one can fuck with him! lol......man seriously, no doubt his dope n his ill on the mic n production but pleez! how can ya call him the 2nd best producer in the game! he doesnt even hardly make beats for others! his only jus starting that! there alot of producers who are iller than him, his jus another dre sounded producer with more guitars......he needs to bring sumthang new in it, so mo niggaz will respect him

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dj khalil
premier
timbaland
neptunes
scott storch
mel man
kayne west

all way  better producers at the moment

damn y'all really love eminem to bitz dont ya,lol

but fair enough, i respect your opinion, im jus givin mine

peace

how can half of those producers you listed be considered better than em when they don't even produce anything?


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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2003, 01:36:59 PM »
DJ Quik

Plus many more but I just had to put his name in.

This is Hip Hop not Rock so the term "production" is a whole different thing since samples are a staple in Hip Hop and always will be. The bulk of classic material Hip Hop has created was formed from sampling.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2003, 01:39:51 PM by WestCoastVeteran »
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2003, 01:49:22 PM »
There are still many producers better then Em, that is for sure.  I'm just saying I think he was better then Dre in '02.

I also think The Neptunes were better than Em.

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2003, 01:56:21 PM »
easily Quik was better...so were the Neptunes and Timbo...Kanye West and Just Blaze...Mannie Fresh along with Jazze Pha produced much better...DJ Khalil was a star IMO...Bosko laced up beats nicely this year...cmon Eminem wasnt even close to the top ten...LMAO...
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2003, 02:04:44 PM »
DJ Quik

Plus many more but I just had to put his name in.

This is Hip Hop not Rock so the term "production" is a whole different thing since samples are a staple in Hip Hop and always will be. The bulk of classic material Hip Hop has created was formed from sampling.

someone who is sampling is not producing, they're acting as a dj replaying a song, or being a cover band
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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2003, 08:22:49 PM »
Eminem was among the top 5 of 2002..

But on a larger scale, Eminem has a few years left of producing before he can be mentioned on these peoples level:

Dr.Dre
DJ Premier
Pete Rock
Alchemist
DJ Quik
DJ Muggs
RZA
Havoc
Erick Sermon
DJ Nottz
Jay Dee
Timbaland
Neptunes
MelMan
Scott Storch
Neptunes
El-P
Rockwilder

These are all veterans when compared to Eminem..
They all have a track-record that speaks for themselves, and if Eminem keeps his work-rate up, he can be mentioned in this same list.
I might even have forgot some producers, like P.Diddy or Jermaine Dupri, but they're not innovative enough to be put on this list, even if they had their fair share of hits.. too much of it was ripped off.

In the graduate-class, I see producers like Kanye West, Just Blaze, Rick Rock, Eminem, Kon Artis, Fred Wreck, Mike Dean and a few more..
They're just not quite there yet..
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2003, 08:58:22 PM »
JD been doin shit for years...he is innovative...look at the shit hes done...Kris Kross, Da Brat, Bow Wow, JE, some Mariah and countless other shit that has been real tight...how could u even say hes not innovative?...thats ridiculous...i dont like JD...but hes done some great shit...whether he sampled or not...hes a good producer...and Rick Rock aint in no graduating class...hell hes been producing for years...aint like Jayz is the one who found him...LMAO...hes been producin hits in the Bay for years now...
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2003, 09:06:01 PM »
JD been doin shit for years...he is innovative...look at the shit hes done...Kris Kross, Da Brat, Bow Wow, JE, some Mariah and countless other shit that has been real tight...how could u even say hes not innovative?...thats ridiculous...i dont like JD...but hes done some great shit...whether he sampled or not...hes a good producer...and Rick Rock aint in no graduating class...hell hes been producing for years...aint like Jayz is the one who found him...LMAO...hes been producin hits in the Bay for years now...

I know you like to pick on my posts, but don't foo yourself at the same time..

J.D. has always jocked somebody.. what style did he invent?
"Why you always gotta sound like the next man shit" - It's totally true, even if you probably don't like that line.. since Xzibit is no longer cool in your book.

Rick Rock has been producing for years, Yes thank you I know that.. but only in the later years has he found a sound that makes him *somewhat* innovative and fresh.
Peep his work before he got popular... not very interesting..
 

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2003, 09:14:57 PM »
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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2003, 09:16:32 PM »

I know you like to pick on my posts, but don't foo yourself at the same time..

J.D. has always jocked somebody.. what style did he invent?
"Why you always gotta sound like the next man shit" - It's totally true, even if you probably don't like that line.. since Xzibit is no longer cool in your book.

Rick Rock has been producing for years, Yes thank you I know that.. but only in the later years has he found a sound that makes him *somewhat* innovative and fresh.
Peep his work before he got popular... not very interesting..
its not that i like to pick on ur posts...but i just dont agree with them...and lately ive been seeing a gang of ur posts that i cant agree wit...now...ive always found JD innovative...he was one of the only south cats bringin funk to that area at the time...i never heard a producer makin shit like JD...i mean just cuz Xzibit(ya big homie) says it...doesnt make it true...he was just dissing...i had never heard anyone sayin JD was jockin until X...oh and i always thought Rick Rock was makin good music...maybe its cuz u dont like that much Bay shit and love east coast shit u think that his prior to popularity music wasnt innovative...
 

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2003, 10:11:03 PM »
Quote

its not that i like to pick on ur posts...but i just dont agree with them...and lately ive been seeing a gang of ur posts that i cant agree wit...now...ive always found JD innovative...he was one of the only south cats bringin funk to that area at the time...i never heard a producer makin shit like JD...i mean just cuz Xzibit(ya big homie) says it...doesnt make it true...he was just dissing...i had never heard anyone sayin JD was jockin until X...oh and i always thought Rick Rock was makin good music...maybe its cuz u dont like that much Bay shit and love east coast shit u think that his prior to popularity music wasnt innovative...

Oh well, it's not like the first time J.D. has been accused of stealing/copying the trend that is "in" right now.
He's always been very Dre-influenced, but as I haven't heard all his productions, he might have had some innovative beats..

Rick Rock before producing for Jigga, was kinda  :-\
I was like  >:( when I saw him in the credits, but he did OK..
And he improved steadily after that.. (having Jigga & Def Jam behind you usually helps when you're a unknown producer)
But I ain't feeling all of his productions today neither, he just surprises me some times..
So therefore I'd say that he's still on the grind, but to mention him along with Dre, Premo, RZA, Havoc etc. is kinda
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2003, 10:30:38 PM »
in the west hes up there with Dre as one of the most used...like i said...u dont check the bay much...so ur blind to the fact...
 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2003, 10:44:02 AM »
eminems the best! the greatest! rapper n producer! no one can fuck with him! lol......man seriously, no doubt his dope n his ill on the mic n production but pleez! how can ya call him the 2nd best producer in the game! he doesnt even hardly make beats for others! his only jus starting that! there alot of producers who are iller than him, his jus another dre sounded producer with more guitars......he needs to bring sumthang new in it, so mo niggaz will respect him

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dj khalil
premier
timbaland
neptunes
scott storch
mel man
kayne west

all way  better producers at the moment

damn y'all really love eminem to bitz dont ya,lol

but fair enough, i respect your opinion, im jus givin mine

peace

how can half of those producers you listed be considered better than em when they don't even produce anything?

please stop clownin yaself dawg, how the fuck can u say half of them dont even produce anything??? wat u on playa?

alchemist - doesnt produce anything......shut the fuck up!
large professer - doesnt produce anything?........shut the fuck up!
dj khalil - aiight i'll giv ya that he aint as heard of as sum of the others but his dope as fuck....
premier - doesnt produce anything!......shut the fuck up!
timbaland - doesnt produce anythin?.......shut the fuck up!
neptunes - .......aiight u got me there....i mean neptunes dont make beats for anyone.....lol........shut the fuck up!
scott storch......this cats been spreadin himself alot lately.....shut the fuck up!
mel man.....aiight his on the dl at the moment......but on a complete level ahead of eminem.....
kayne west........another sick producer!........niggaz stop

seriously what was u thinkin when u replied to my opinion............every producer there n alot fo what jome mentioned after me are all better producers than eminem at the moment

peace

 

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Re:Right now Eminem might be 2nd best producer...
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2003, 02:58:53 PM »
eminems the best! the greatest! rapper n producer! no one can fuck with him! lol......man seriously, no doubt his dope n his ill on the mic n production but pleez! how can ya call him the 2nd best producer in the game! he doesnt even hardly make beats for others! his only jus starting that! there alot of producers who are iller than him, his jus another dre sounded producer with more guitars......he needs to bring sumthang new in it, so mo niggaz will respect him

alchemist
large professer
dj khalil
premier
timbaland
neptunes
scott storch
mel man
kayne west

all way  better producers at the moment

damn y'all really love eminem to bitz dont ya,lol

but fair enough, i respect your opinion, im jus givin mine

peace

how can half of those producers you listed be considered better than em when they don't even produce anything?

please stop clownin yaself dawg, how the fuck can u say half of them dont even produce anything??? wat u on playa?

alchemist - doesnt produce anything......shut the fuck up!
large professer - doesnt produce anything?........shut the fuck up!
dj khalil - aiight i'll giv ya that he aint as heard of as sum of the others but his dope as fuck....
premier - doesnt produce anything!......shut the fuck up!
timbaland - doesnt produce anythin?.......shut the fuck up!
neptunes - .......aiight u got me there....i mean neptunes dont make beats for anyone.....lol........shut the fuck up!
scott storch......this cats been spreadin himself alot lately.....shut the fuck up!
mel man.....aiight his on the dl at the moment......but on a complete level ahead of eminem.....
kayne west........another sick producer!........niggaz stop

seriously what was u thinkin when u replied to my opinion............every producer there n alot fo what jome mentioned after me are all better producers than eminem at the moment

peace




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