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on EVERYTHING i thought i was tha only person creating tracklists and album covers when i was a youngin, making up cartoons and

shit.  Dude pretty much raps exactly like i was rappin' (even though i'm me), the characters with tha dark voices, speeding up the

beats and slowing them down midway thru tha songs, having a posse and making them into some voltron type shit... i swear to god

when i was in the 5th/6th grade i had all of tha niggaz i knew could "flow" and my cousins (even having my couzin Dave to a DJ

EZ-Dic skit on the record... i still remember the rap "don't wanna kiss u becuz ur breathe smell like old farted up tissue") and it all

written down in a notebook with their rap names and album names and release dates and "coming soons" and all of that (i even had

bitches that could sing written in there too).  I still remember my cousin's name and album "Black Marxxx" "Tha Marxxx of Death".  I

still remember tellin niggaz how EASY it was to make tha "Light Ya Ass On Fire" instrumental with Fruity Loops when those niggaz

didn't even have a clue what a beat machine was.  Shit, on everything I love i got shit I'm already thinking about that's gonna be the

new new for 2035 - 2051.



this waz way back in 1999/2000 (and i was doing shit before that was similar way way back in 94/95 with just me and my other

cousin).  this waz way before OddFuture, this was before I myself had even heard of Three 6 Mafia even though i swear i heard "tear

da club up" at some point in 96.  I was even listening to Dre's beats and seeing where all of the extra instrumentation came from and

then go back and listen to other songs and see where u could fit more in and take stuff out, i've always done that.  listening to tha

lyrics and seeing how it could be stitched together tighter (way before Eminem did with tha way he was going on Relapse" and

"Recovery").  I was greatly influenced by Lynch becuz of his soul and his craft but I wasn't trying to be like Brotha Lynch Hung.  



I made this beat way back yonder in the spring of 06' fucking around with the pitches n shit and incorporating them in my lyrics http://limelinx.com/files/c795ed23a0562dafbdc0304fa756522e does Pharrell owe me credit for this becuz it sounds so much alike like "So Ambitious" by Jay http://www.usershare.net/8n7q6hpo49x2

Does that mean I'm the originator of it?  Tyler took that shit to a whole new level and breathed life into it causing him to be an

originator of that.  Even though I had experimented with it and was thinking of that shit before I could even lay down a drum pattern

does that mean Tyler has to pay me homage.  I was rapping on some Earl/Tyler/Hodgy shit too does that mean I'm one of the founding

fathers of OddFuture and they owe their career to my work?  I think when you're young it's just something you come up with hence all

of that type of music in RAP coming out like that around the same time, it's just a phase u go thru at that age and u experiment with the shit.  

I'm sorry it took you 10 years to find your passion for music again but if u woulda kept at it u would get what i'm saying.  Triple Six

took the thought of it and created a whole new style of Hip Hop and if u disagree then u disagree, all I'm saying is don't be so sure

Esham and Gangsta Nip were household names all across America in 1990.  Scarface wasn't even that mainstream like that back then

even though he and Willie D were buzzin'.  By Your definition the Romans and Jews are the creators of all things Rap and Africa is the

creator of all things music (that arguement only holds so much truth and weight to it).  I was even thinking of making videos for every

one of my songs on my album before 50 even released "Tha Massacre".  It's like you're trying to lump everybody together and blanket tha shit.



I'm not making any of this stuff up and believe me my mind is endless when it comes to Hollywood and the Hiipower (i'm an original

and aninnovator myself and have always breaded myself to be that way... i felt a "sad" in my heart and a discomfort when Andre 3000

"hollywood just keeps takin our shit but it's ok becuz we'll just come out with the new shit").  You're mistaking two/three random ass

songs that niggaz did for birthing an entire style and genre of rap (like how the label has been doing with Lex Luger and his sound

even though the dude has shit that sounds nothing like the shit you hear that gets released).  If that's the case then Brotha

Lynch/Sicx/XRaided hold more clout in that forum than The Geto Boys did.



Basically what i'm saying is that there comes a time in music where it takes the public to catch on to it even though it's always been

around for ages.  Now people have never heard me rap (the world anyway) but if i never told u this you'd think OddFuture were the

only people thinking of this shit and everybody that comes out after them is biting off of OddFuture (even though you could be right

technically).  It's just like i was saying, those raps you're mentioning and the people u named may have can out at tha same time or a

year or two before with it but who heard of em?  You're getting today's "quick information age" mixed with yesterday's (which is why i

guess people are still bitching about the rap music of today even though they're getting what they're asking for and more).  Example,

i've never heard of Tory Lanez or checked for his video but a couple thousand people have and i haven't and for all i know dude

could be on tha same shit i'm on but i'd never know it becuz i never heard his shit.  Tay Don from BrickSquad is from Landover (5 cities over)

and I've never even heard this nigga's music and I thought he was from Atlanta.  For all I know Tay Don could have that sound and

spark that Tha County needs but I would'nt know becuz I've never heard his shit and this nigga practically lives down the highway from

my house.  I could've met tha nigga and not even knew it was him but yet he's fuckin' with BrickSquad and he's from Tha County.



And I'm not sayin that Three 6 wasn't influenced a little by The Geto Boys (i think everybody was) but The Geto Boys were more on that

gangsta shit while "Tha BackYard Posse" was more of a hybrid which is what i was getting at about them being the originators so to

say.  And not once did i say i was giving Three 6 all of the sole credit (ironic) for it but tha fact of tha matter is is that they

were more popular (other than The Geto Boys even though they aren't horrorcore in the least and they were basically doing it to be

violent and shock people).  Alot of people were on that same page about being graphic which is why your lack of knowledge is

showing and you're reaching just to make urself look right becuz everybody knows Nik can't be told nuthin'.  You're too caught up in

your lifestyle and in a trance to really grasp what waz going on and what else is going on.  



At the end of tha day no matter how much u wanna lie to yourself and make believe that Esham was Michael Jackson and Gangsta

Nip was Elvis the fact of tha matter still remains that Three 6 Mafia were doing this on a whole nother level before these other niggaz

even got outta their state.  U act like i don't understand your simple ass and u think i'm callin Scarface a biter smh.



- And as far as the Linda Lovelace thing goes, No.  Just becuz u took 5 minutes outta 1 of your 400 films to get fucked in tha ass

doesn't make u the trailblazer when it's been going on before her and after her.  Being the Anal Queen of Porn means you eat ass, do

double anals (even triple anals), drink tha milk enemas, and all of that other wild shit they do.  Linda wasn't an originator or an

innovator, she just finally tried something different once or twice in one or two of her hundreds of films.  



You're talking to an artist NikCC, a connasuer of tha game.  To know the truth you have to understand where they're coming from.


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[Sccit]

on EVERYTHING i thought i was tha only person creating tracklists and album covers when i was a youngin, making up cartoons and

shit.  Dude pretty much raps exactly like i was rappin' (even though i'm me), the characters with tha dark voices, speeding up the

beats and slowing them down midway thru tha songs, having a posse and making them into some voltron type shit... i swear to god

when i was in the 5th/6th grade i had all of tha niggaz i knew could "flow" and my cousins (even having my couzin Dave to a DJ

EZ-Dic skit on the record... i still remember the rap "don't wanna kiss u becuz ur breathe smell like old farted up tissue") and it all

written down in a notebook with their rap names and album names and release dates and "coming soons" and all of that (i even had

bitches that could sing written in there too).  I still remember my cousin's name and album "Black Marxxx" "Tha Marxxx of Death".  I

still remember tellin niggaz how EASY it was to make tha "Light Ya Ass On Fire" instrumental with Fruity Loops when those niggaz

didn't even have a clue what a beat machine was.  Shit, on everything I love i got shit I'm already thinking about that's gonna be the

new new for 2035 - 2051.



this waz way back in 1999/2000 (and i was doing shit before that was similar way way back in 94/95 with just me and my other

cousin).  this waz way before OddFuture, this was before I myself had even heard of Three 6 Mafia even though i swear i heard "tear

da club up" at some point in 96.  I was even listening to Dre's beats and seeing where all of the extra instrumentation came from and

then go back and listen to other songs and see where u could fit more in and take stuff out, i've always done that.  listening to tha

lyrics and seeing how it could be stitched together tighter (way before Eminem did with tha way he was going on Relapse" and

"Recovery").  I was greatly influenced by Lynch becuz of his soul and his craft but I wasn't trying to be like Brotha Lynch Hung.  



I made this beat way back yonder in the spring of 06' fucking around with the pitches n shit and incorporating them in my lyrics http://limelinx.com/files/c795ed23a0562dafbdc0304fa756522e does Pharrell owe me credit for this becuz it sounds so much alike like "So Ambitious" by Jay http://www.usershare.net/8n7q6hpo49x2

Does that mean I'm the originator of it?  Tyler took that shit to a whole new level and breathed life into it causing him to be an

originator of that.  Even though I had experimented with it and was thinking of that shit before I could even lay down a drum pattern

does that mean Tyler has to pay me homage.  I was rapping on some Earl/Tyler/Hodgy shit too does that mean I'm one of the founding

fathers of OddFuture and they owe their career to my work?  I think when you're young it's just something you come up with hence all

of that type of music in RAP coming out like that around the same time, it's just a phase u go thru at that age and u experiment with the shit.  

I'm sorry it took you 10 years to find your passion for music again but if u woulda kept at it u would get what i'm saying.  Triple Six

took the thought of it and created a whole new style of Hip Hop and if u disagree then u disagree, all I'm saying is don't be so sure

Esham and Gangsta Nip were household names all across America in 1990.  Scarface wasn't even that mainstream like that back then

even though he and Willie D were buzzin'.  By Your definition the Romans and Jews are the creators of all things Rap and Africa is the

creator of all things music (that arguement only holds so much truth and weight to it).  I was even thinking of making videos for every

one of my songs on my album before 50 even released "Tha Massacre".  It's like you're trying to lump everybody together and blanket tha shit.



I'm not making any of this stuff up and believe me my mind is endless when it comes to Hollywood and the Hiipower (i'm an original

and aninnovator myself and have always breaded myself to be that way... i felt a "sad" in my heart and a discomfort when Andre 3000

"hollywood just keeps takin our shit but it's ok becuz we'll just come out with the new shit").  You're mistaking two/three random ass

songs that niggaz did for birthing an entire style and genre of rap (like how the label has been doing with Lex Luger and his sound

even though the dude has shit that sounds nothing like the shit you hear that gets released).  If that's the case then Brotha

Lynch/Sicx/XRaided hold more clout in that forum than The Geto Boys did.



Basically what i'm saying is that there comes a time in music where it takes the public to catch on to it even though it's always been

around for ages.  Now people have never heard me rap (the world anyway) but if i never told u this you'd think OddFuture were the

only people thinking of this shit and everybody that comes out after them is biting off of OddFuture (even though you could be right

technically).  It's just like i was saying, those raps you're mentioning and the people u named may have can out at tha same time or a

year or two before with it but who heard of em?  You're getting today's "quick information age" mixed with yesterday's (which is why i

guess people are still bitching about the rap music of today even though they're getting what they're asking for and more).  Example,

i've never heard of Tory Lanez or checked for his video but a couple thousand people have and i haven't and for all i know dude

could be on tha same shit i'm on but i'd never know it becuz i never heard his shit.  Tay Don from BrickSquad is from Landover (5 cities over)

and I've never even heard this nigga's music and I thought he was from Atlanta.  For all I know Tay Don could have that sound and

spark that Tha County needs but I would'nt know becuz I've never heard his shit and this nigga practically lives down the highway from

my house.  I could've met tha nigga and not even knew it was him but yet he's fuckin' with BrickSquad and he's from Tha County.



And I'm not sayin that Three 6 wasn't influenced a little by The Geto Boys (i think everybody was) but The Geto Boys were more on that

gangsta shit while "Tha BackYard Posse" was more of a hybrid which is what i was getting at about them being the originators so to

say.  And not once did i say i was giving Three 6 all of the sole credit (ironic) for it but tha fact of tha matter is is that they

were more popular (other than The Geto Boys even though they aren't horrorcore in the least and they were basically doing it to be

violent and shock people).  Alot of people were on that same page about being graphic which is why your lack of knowledge is

showing and you're reaching just to make urself look right becuz everybody knows Nik can't be told nuthin'.  You're too caught up in

your lifestyle and in a trance to really grasp what waz going on and what else is going on.  



At the end of tha day no matter how much u wanna lie to yourself and make believe that Esham was Michael Jackson and Gangsta

Nip was Elvis the fact of tha matter still remains that Three 6 Mafia were doing this on a whole nother level before these other niggaz

even got outta their state.  U act like i don't understand your simple ass and u think i'm callin Scarface a biter smh.



- And as far as the Linda Lovelace thing goes, No.  Just becuz u took 5 minutes outta 1 of your 400 films to get fucked in tha ass

doesn't make u the trailblazer when it's been going on before her and after her.  Being the Anal Queen of Porn means you eat ass, do

double anals (even triple anals), drink tha milk enemas, and all of that other wild shit they do.  Linda wasn't an originator or an

innovator, she just finally tried something different once or twice in one or two of her hundreds of films.  



You're talking to an artist NikCC, a connasuer of tha game.  To know the truth you have to understand where they're coming from.


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again, i never said anything about who the king of horrorcore was, i was only pointing out who came first with it...you can't compare you and your elementary school friends making fake tracklists to Geto Boys and Esham releasing retail albums that are sold in stores nationwide lmao..."Chuckie" was a HUGE horrorcore hit, and that shit was made before Three Six even existed...I get where ur comin from and what ur tryna say, but u should get where i'm comin from as well. the fact that u cant find a common ground in this is mind-bogglin, especially when i been providin the facts...PeACe

[BiggBoogaBiff]

i have found common ground with u but u just don't wanna accept tha truth and tha other side of it (the common ground).



and i can compare it becuz you're acting like everybody knew who Esham was and somehow my ideaz weren't original (you're wildin', i take pride in being original bitch).  I think u need 2 stop acting like a punk and accept tha fact that "no idea's original" and Three 6 were originators (with Lynch and them being ORIGINAL as well).  I didn't even hear about that bama Esham until 2000 and didn't even bother to listen to 1 of his songs until 01'/02' and the 1 i heard i thought it was wack and didn't even bother to listen to ANYTHING ELSE.  you're putting people on a pedestal that the rest of the world couldn't agree with (and i'm not just talking about me).  and i'll admit circa 2001 i wasn't even all that familiar with the early early Geto Boys shit like that (let alone "Chuckie") so i know i wasn't bitin'.  Maybe if u actually had some friends and a goal growing up (other than getting laid and getting good grades) you would understand where i'm coming from.  you're not about to sit up here and call me a biter either.



you just wanna c me sweat it out but i'm tryna tell u that just becuz shit was retail doesn't mean people knew what tha fuck or who tha fuck it waz.  tha ONLY difference between me and them is the retail game and taking the right opportunity at tha right time.  this horrorcore shit you're on isn't as popular as u think it iz and honestly only so many people listen to that shit becuz 99% of the people who do it are usually wack with only a FEW (and i emphasize 'few') can actually pull it off and make it sound tight.



u obviously didn't read all of that and that's cool but u should go back and read it and put it into it's right context and look at tha facts (matter of fact this entire thread).  it's more mind boggling that u think everybody interprets violent raps the same way and it's all about horrorcore and horrorcore only.  if u can't get that then i'm just gonna take it as you being an antagonizer and a simple bastard.  The Geto Boys were horrorcore if that's your interpretation of it and that's wrong.  Horrorcore Rap isn't all that tight Nik, stop acting like it makes the world go round.  2pac got more from Scarface than Three 6 Mafia did.



and that photo of Bushwick Bill was real, it wasn't fake.



at tha end of all of this i think you're losing focus on what's what and you're making immature and naive statements about people and things you've just only recently began to know and figure out.


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LOL, you're hilarious

[BiggBoogaBiff]

well i can't say that Horrorcore Rap Music doesn't make the world go around but tha darkness do.  no matter how much people wanna be holier than thou, black/white, buddist/athiest, no matter what our differences are between us we all attract to tha dark.  tha dark is the light imo, there's just too much concrete evidence out there proving that point that i wouldn't even bother entertaining the thought right now.  


it takes someone special to pull it off though (horrorcore rap) and what you were getting at was only 1/5 of the truth.  that was the Triple 6 Mafia's style (it was their swag) and The Geto Boys were exactly what their name was "The Geto Boys".  as far as Esham goes he just wasn't relevant when he did it so it's like nobody knew who tha nigga was and whether he released something in 89' or not was more of a coincidence than an influence.  Lynch and them had their hood on lock but it wasn't really until 95' when dude blew up and people heard him.  I'd say XRaided would've been the lead but idk, you're talking about 1992 when everybody was crazy ("The Chronic" and so on) so i think it was more of a coincidence rather than anything else.  becuz like i said before, everybody loves the dark and everybody lovez tha devil.  it is what it iz, that's something that'll never change... 

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