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Quote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 08:24:22 PMQuote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on September 13, 2011, 05:42:46 PMI mean let's keep it real, Snoop sold out when he signed a recording contract before he even made Doggystyle or the Chronic. After that, he is property of his label and therefore it is them dictating to him what features he does, how his music sounds, what his lyrics say (ie ghostwriters) what his album artwork looks like etc. I'm not dissing him for that, just stating the situation.I mean honestly Snoops music (his albums at least) have largely been weak for about 10 years now. Like how yall are appalled by this feature is how I felt the first time I heard "Drop It Like It's Hot". The song in and of itself was great for what it was, but seeing Snoop do some of the most played out trends at the time - ie Neptunes production (and again, don't get me wrong, Neptunes did some brilliant shit in their prime) and an over the top simplistic / minimalist approach to hip hop beats (like The Whistle Song by Ying Yang, some shit by David Banner and a bunch of other joints coming out of ATL at the time). For somebody that was actually listening to hip hop when albums like the Chronic and Doggystyle came out, it was kinda lame because that shit was so played out. I def think Snoop has the ability to make great music, but his label pigeonholes him. But since he's under contract, there's not shit he can do about it, and honestly that's the agreement he made when he got into the business.The truth is that no matter what features he does or what music he makes in the future has no bearing on his classic work. I'll prolly be bumping that shit randomly till I die lol. He still seems like the cool dude he always was and seems like he's having fun, and puts on a good live show with his band and shit. So I say props to Snoop, play on playa.Oh and here's Nas' 3rd verse from "Hero" which was his lead single from Untitled. He's directly speaking on this:This universal apartheid (meaning Universal studios)I'm hog-tied, the corporate sideBlocking y'all from going to stores and buying itFirst L.A. and Doug Morris was riding wit itBut Newsweek article startled big wigsThey said, Nas, why is he trying it? My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winningForgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginningStill in musical prison, in jail for the flowTry telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy JoelThey can't sing what's in their soulSo untitled it isI never change nothin'But people remember thisIf Nas can't say it, think about these talented kidsWith new ideas being told what they can and can't spitI can't sit and watch itSo, sh! t, I'ma drop itLike it or notYou ain't gotta cop itI'm a hustler in the studioCups of Don JulioNo matter what the CD calledI'm unbeatable, y'allthis post is pretty on point...but in that sense, snoop sold out way b4 "drop it like it's hot", back when he signed with no limit and droppin dirty south tracks, which was the popular trend at the time.No Limit was the biggest label at the time, and they were making dope original music w/ their own in house production team Beats By The Pound. BBTP weren't doing pop songs for britney spears and shit like that. I was anticipating his no limit album a lot when it came out, and there were some dope records on his NL debut. Snoop signed to them in what, 98? The south wasn't really blowing up like that at the time. Cash Money hadn't even blown up yet. The south really started to blow in the early-mid 2000's with that "ringtone rap", and Snoop was jumping on that fad w/ Drop It Like It's Hot.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on September 13, 2011, 05:42:46 PMI mean let's keep it real, Snoop sold out when he signed a recording contract before he even made Doggystyle or the Chronic. After that, he is property of his label and therefore it is them dictating to him what features he does, how his music sounds, what his lyrics say (ie ghostwriters) what his album artwork looks like etc. I'm not dissing him for that, just stating the situation.I mean honestly Snoops music (his albums at least) have largely been weak for about 10 years now. Like how yall are appalled by this feature is how I felt the first time I heard "Drop It Like It's Hot". The song in and of itself was great for what it was, but seeing Snoop do some of the most played out trends at the time - ie Neptunes production (and again, don't get me wrong, Neptunes did some brilliant shit in their prime) and an over the top simplistic / minimalist approach to hip hop beats (like The Whistle Song by Ying Yang, some shit by David Banner and a bunch of other joints coming out of ATL at the time). For somebody that was actually listening to hip hop when albums like the Chronic and Doggystyle came out, it was kinda lame because that shit was so played out. I def think Snoop has the ability to make great music, but his label pigeonholes him. But since he's under contract, there's not shit he can do about it, and honestly that's the agreement he made when he got into the business.The truth is that no matter what features he does or what music he makes in the future has no bearing on his classic work. I'll prolly be bumping that shit randomly till I die lol. He still seems like the cool dude he always was and seems like he's having fun, and puts on a good live show with his band and shit. So I say props to Snoop, play on playa.Oh and here's Nas' 3rd verse from "Hero" which was his lead single from Untitled. He's directly speaking on this:This universal apartheid (meaning Universal studios)I'm hog-tied, the corporate sideBlocking y'all from going to stores and buying itFirst L.A. and Doug Morris was riding wit itBut Newsweek article startled big wigsThey said, Nas, why is he trying it? My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winningForgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginningStill in musical prison, in jail for the flowTry telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy JoelThey can't sing what's in their soulSo untitled it isI never change nothin'But people remember thisIf Nas can't say it, think about these talented kidsWith new ideas being told what they can and can't spitI can't sit and watch itSo, sh! t, I'ma drop itLike it or notYou ain't gotta cop itI'm a hustler in the studioCups of Don JulioNo matter what the CD calledI'm unbeatable, y'allthis post is pretty on point...but in that sense, snoop sold out way b4 "drop it like it's hot", back when he signed with no limit and droppin dirty south tracks, which was the popular trend at the time.
I mean let's keep it real, Snoop sold out when he signed a recording contract before he even made Doggystyle or the Chronic. After that, he is property of his label and therefore it is them dictating to him what features he does, how his music sounds, what his lyrics say (ie ghostwriters) what his album artwork looks like etc. I'm not dissing him for that, just stating the situation.I mean honestly Snoops music (his albums at least) have largely been weak for about 10 years now. Like how yall are appalled by this feature is how I felt the first time I heard "Drop It Like It's Hot". The song in and of itself was great for what it was, but seeing Snoop do some of the most played out trends at the time - ie Neptunes production (and again, don't get me wrong, Neptunes did some brilliant shit in their prime) and an over the top simplistic / minimalist approach to hip hop beats (like The Whistle Song by Ying Yang, some shit by David Banner and a bunch of other joints coming out of ATL at the time). For somebody that was actually listening to hip hop when albums like the Chronic and Doggystyle came out, it was kinda lame because that shit was so played out. I def think Snoop has the ability to make great music, but his label pigeonholes him. But since he's under contract, there's not shit he can do about it, and honestly that's the agreement he made when he got into the business.The truth is that no matter what features he does or what music he makes in the future has no bearing on his classic work. I'll prolly be bumping that shit randomly till I die lol. He still seems like the cool dude he always was and seems like he's having fun, and puts on a good live show with his band and shit. So I say props to Snoop, play on playa.Oh and here's Nas' 3rd verse from "Hero" which was his lead single from Untitled. He's directly speaking on this:This universal apartheid (meaning Universal studios)I'm hog-tied, the corporate sideBlocking y'all from going to stores and buying itFirst L.A. and Doug Morris was riding wit itBut Newsweek article startled big wigsThey said, Nas, why is he trying it? My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winningForgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginningStill in musical prison, in jail for the flowTry telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy JoelThey can't sing what's in their soulSo untitled it isI never change nothin'But people remember thisIf Nas can't say it, think about these talented kidsWith new ideas being told what they can and can't spitI can't sit and watch itSo, sh! t, I'ma drop itLike it or notYou ain't gotta cop itI'm a hustler in the studioCups of Don JulioNo matter what the CD calledI'm unbeatable, y'all
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 13, 2011, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 04:09:52 PMyour dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?You brought up Backstreet Boys not me. Val Young = dance pop. Madonna = pop. You can't argue what's right in front of you.He tried to argue "I Need A Doctor" isn't Dre's biggest hit.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 04:09:52 PMyour dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?You brought up Backstreet Boys not me. Val Young = dance pop. Madonna = pop. You can't argue what's right in front of you.
your dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on September 13, 2011, 06:19:27 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 13, 2011, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 04:09:52 PMyour dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?You brought up Backstreet Boys not me. Val Young = dance pop. Madonna = pop. You can't argue what's right in front of you.He tried to argue "I Need A Doctor" isn't Dre's biggest hit.I'm at a loss for words if you really believe "I Need A Doctor" is Dre's biggest hit.
Quote from: Reality Check on September 14, 2011, 07:29:21 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click, literally. on September 13, 2011, 06:19:27 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 13, 2011, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 04:09:52 PMyour dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?You brought up Backstreet Boys not me. Val Young = dance pop. Madonna = pop. You can't argue what's right in front of you.He tried to argue "I Need A Doctor" isn't Dre's biggest hit.I'm at a loss for words if you really believe "I Need A Doctor" is Dre's biggest hit.I'm at a loss for words if you cannot read statistics that show it had the highest sales (or second highest).Hits only go as far as how much they sell. That's the intention of them.
Quote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 03:59:13 PMQuote from: 3rd Coast on September 13, 2011, 03:33:55 PMnobody said shit when quik was making music with toni tony tone...a band full of boys... dre was in boy band...dre made songs for a boy band..blackstreet...snoop not a sell out....when this rap shit is done... he got other stuff he can do...u cant rap 4ever...snoop is nall thu out the galaxy...he cant with this rap shit nomore which is oversaturated...he can eat off that boy band music..y stay on the same street..when there's freeways and highways that go elsewhere.pac kept boy band leaders in music once he got to death row...aaron hall( guy) kci n jojo ( jodeci)...devante( jodeci).u can hang snoop but dont didnt even think about the noose for pac..those are urban r&b bands...if ur comparing blackstreet to backstreet boys is pretty fuckin dumb, and u know it.when it comes to pac...its about the genre...backstreet and blackstreet the same kinda corny ass band...same shit different color..
Quote from: 3rd Coast on September 13, 2011, 03:33:55 PMnobody said shit when quik was making music with toni tony tone...a band full of boys... dre was in boy band...dre made songs for a boy band..blackstreet...snoop not a sell out....when this rap shit is done... he got other stuff he can do...u cant rap 4ever...snoop is nall thu out the galaxy...he cant with this rap shit nomore which is oversaturated...he can eat off that boy band music..y stay on the same street..when there's freeways and highways that go elsewhere.pac kept boy band leaders in music once he got to death row...aaron hall( guy) kci n jojo ( jodeci)...devante( jodeci).u can hang snoop but dont didnt even think about the noose for pac..those are urban r&b bands...if ur comparing blackstreet to backstreet boys is pretty fuckin dumb, and u know it.
nobody said shit when quik was making music with toni tony tone...a band full of boys... dre was in boy band...dre made songs for a boy band..blackstreet...snoop not a sell out....when this rap shit is done... he got other stuff he can do...u cant rap 4ever...snoop is nall thu out the galaxy...he cant with this rap shit nomore which is oversaturated...he can eat off that boy band music..y stay on the same street..when there's freeways and highways that go elsewhere.pac kept boy band leaders in music once he got to death row...aaron hall( guy) kci n jojo ( jodeci)...devante( jodeci).u can hang snoop but dont didnt even think about the noose for pac..
Quote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 05:01:25 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 13, 2011, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 04:09:52 PMyour dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?You brought up Backstreet Boys not me. Val Young = dance pop. Madonna = pop. You can't argue what's right in front of you.look at the artists snoop has worked with...look at the video i posted. that is nothing comparable to anything pac has ever done. to argue otherwise is dumb, but i expect it from u.Pac's career lasted 5 years. In that time he worked with pop stars, made love songs, cross-dressed and took pics of himself naked in a bathtub. You're in denial if you don't think he could have worked with Katy Perry. He was already working with Madonna, who Katy Perry models her music after.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on September 13, 2011, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on September 13, 2011, 04:09:52 PMyour dumbass compares kci & jojo to backstreet boys...how can i lose?You brought up Backstreet Boys not me. Val Young = dance pop. Madonna = pop. You can't argue what's right in front of you.look at the artists snoop has worked with...look at the video i posted. that is nothing comparable to anything pac has ever done. to argue otherwise is dumb, but i expect it from u.
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