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Quote from: 13th Duke on October 30, 2011, 08:21:37 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 05:16:37 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on October 28, 2011, 03:39:57 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 12:21:37 PMQuote from: Iveus on October 28, 2011, 01:57:34 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?Yeah. I don't know how you could think Elmatic isn't dope. It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."This isn't really saying much considering only a few people have done it. I personally thought it was dope but I will NEVER listen to ElMatic on a regular basis because I own Illmatic. I don't even udnerstand why anyone would even waste their time and energy by copying an album already in existence. Elzhi is dope though. But the two albums aren't the same. It's not like you would be listening to one instead of the other. If you want to hear early Nas you would listen to illmatic. If you want to hear Elzhi you would listen to Elmatic. The two albums don't even give off the same vibes. One is early 90s east coast production, and one is modern production using some of the same samples as the OG.To answer your last statement,surely you realize hundreds of artists (rappers included) do covers? A lot of them have become classics. This album is doing that for 8 tracks.Name me a dozen of artists that have done entire album covers. No-one said anything about cover SONGS. I said albums. Read my post again. Also, the songs are practically exactly the same musically, the only difference is that Will Sessions is nowhere near as good a producer as the worst beatmaker on Illmatic, so his beats just come off sounding like cheap copies. Give me an Elzhi solo album when he doesn't rely entirely on beats and themes that have been made up by someone else over ElMatic. Thats not to say its a bad album, it's just completely unnecessary. And yes, they DO give off the same vibes. What's the difference between covering a classic song and covering 8 classic songs? Does that somehow make it not worth listening to you? If Elzhi had released one cover of each illmatic song per year would that make it more worthwhile to you? Cmon son....Honestly I would say that some of the production is actually better than the OG. Some of the producers on illmatic came average *cough qtip*. The fact Elmatic is live instrumentation gives it a fresh vibe. How could you not love the extended instrumental on Life's a Bitch? And also what themes dude? Nas on illmatic didn't know how to stick to themes yet.It's all opinion and you not liking it is yours. But it makes no sense to dislike it for being a cover when covers are a big part of music.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 05:16:37 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on October 28, 2011, 03:39:57 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 12:21:37 PMQuote from: Iveus on October 28, 2011, 01:57:34 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?Yeah. I don't know how you could think Elmatic isn't dope. It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."This isn't really saying much considering only a few people have done it. I personally thought it was dope but I will NEVER listen to ElMatic on a regular basis because I own Illmatic. I don't even udnerstand why anyone would even waste their time and energy by copying an album already in existence. Elzhi is dope though. But the two albums aren't the same. It's not like you would be listening to one instead of the other. If you want to hear early Nas you would listen to illmatic. If you want to hear Elzhi you would listen to Elmatic. The two albums don't even give off the same vibes. One is early 90s east coast production, and one is modern production using some of the same samples as the OG.To answer your last statement,surely you realize hundreds of artists (rappers included) do covers? A lot of them have become classics. This album is doing that for 8 tracks.Name me a dozen of artists that have done entire album covers. No-one said anything about cover SONGS. I said albums. Read my post again. Also, the songs are practically exactly the same musically, the only difference is that Will Sessions is nowhere near as good a producer as the worst beatmaker on Illmatic, so his beats just come off sounding like cheap copies. Give me an Elzhi solo album when he doesn't rely entirely on beats and themes that have been made up by someone else over ElMatic. Thats not to say its a bad album, it's just completely unnecessary. And yes, they DO give off the same vibes.
Quote from: 13th Duke on October 28, 2011, 03:39:57 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 12:21:37 PMQuote from: Iveus on October 28, 2011, 01:57:34 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?Yeah. I don't know how you could think Elmatic isn't dope. It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."This isn't really saying much considering only a few people have done it. I personally thought it was dope but I will NEVER listen to ElMatic on a regular basis because I own Illmatic. I don't even udnerstand why anyone would even waste their time and energy by copying an album already in existence. Elzhi is dope though. But the two albums aren't the same. It's not like you would be listening to one instead of the other. If you want to hear early Nas you would listen to illmatic. If you want to hear Elzhi you would listen to Elmatic. The two albums don't even give off the same vibes. One is early 90s east coast production, and one is modern production using some of the same samples as the OG.To answer your last statement,surely you realize hundreds of artists (rappers included) do covers? A lot of them have become classics. This album is doing that for 8 tracks.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 12:21:37 PMQuote from: Iveus on October 28, 2011, 01:57:34 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?Yeah. I don't know how you could think Elmatic isn't dope. It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."This isn't really saying much considering only a few people have done it. I personally thought it was dope but I will NEVER listen to ElMatic on a regular basis because I own Illmatic. I don't even udnerstand why anyone would even waste their time and energy by copying an album already in existence. Elzhi is dope though.
Quote from: Iveus on October 28, 2011, 01:57:34 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?Yeah. I don't know how you could think Elmatic isn't dope. It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?
Did you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?
Groupieness aside, I genuinely thnk DJ Premier is producer of the year. He's been killing it this year.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 30, 2011, 10:50:45 AMQuote from: 13th Duke on October 30, 2011, 08:21:37 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 05:16:37 PMQuote from: 13th Duke on October 28, 2011, 03:39:57 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 28, 2011, 12:21:37 PMQuote from: Iveus on October 28, 2011, 01:57:34 AMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on October 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AMDid you listen to the Reks or Elzhi album?Nope, didn't know either had new albums. But Grey Hairs and eLmatic were was dope so I think I'll give them a shot...Edit: By Elzhi album did you mean eLmatic?Yeah. I don't know how you could think Elmatic isn't dope. It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."It's the best remake of illmatic I've ever heard."This isn't really saying much considering only a few people have done it. I personally thought it was dope but I will NEVER listen to ElMatic on a regular basis because I own Illmatic. I don't even udnerstand why anyone would even waste their time and energy by copying an album already in existence. Elzhi is dope though. But the two albums aren't the same. It's not like you would be listening to one instead of the other. If you want to hear early Nas you would listen to illmatic. If you want to hear Elzhi you would listen to Elmatic. The two albums don't even give off the same vibes. One is early 90s east coast production, and one is modern production using some of the same samples as the OG.To answer your last statement,surely you realize hundreds of artists (rappers included) do covers? A lot of them have become classics. This album is doing that for 8 tracks.Name me a dozen of artists that have done entire album covers. No-one said anything about cover SONGS. I said albums. Read my post again. Also, the songs are practically exactly the same musically, the only difference is that Will Sessions is nowhere near as good a producer as the worst beatmaker on Illmatic, so his beats just come off sounding like cheap copies. Give me an Elzhi solo album when he doesn't rely entirely on beats and themes that have been made up by someone else over ElMatic. Thats not to say its a bad album, it's just completely unnecessary. And yes, they DO give off the same vibes. What's the difference between covering a classic song and covering 8 classic songs? Does that somehow make it not worth listening to you? If Elzhi had released one cover of each illmatic song per year would that make it more worthwhile to you? Cmon son....Honestly I would say that some of the production is actually better than the OG. Some of the producers on illmatic came average *cough qtip*. The fact Elmatic is live instrumentation gives it a fresh vibe. How could you not love the extended instrumental on Life's a Bitch? And also what themes dude? Nas on illmatic didn't know how to stick to themes yet.It's all opinion and you not liking it is yours. But it makes no sense to dislike it for being a cover when covers are a big part of music.There is an absolutely huge difference between covering one song and covering an entire album. A huge difference. The evidence is in the fact that so little covers of entire albums get constructed. Its not even an original idea to do so either, as other artists has already tred this path and remade Illmatic. This is entirely opinion yes, which is shown by the fact I entirely disagree with the laughable statement that the production on this free cover album Elzhi dropped is apparently better than the production on what is considered by many people to not only be a classic, but arguably even the single greatest hip-hop album ever made. And Nas didn't do themes? Seriously? What is The World Is Yours? What is Memory Lane? Really, mate?
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