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Bad Azz
2 (9.5%)
Young Buck
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Bishop Lamont
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Memphis Bleek
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Loon
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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 09:21:17 AM »
Loon retired and became very religious and has never looked back. He walked away, that's not really a career fail

he failed miserably.
 realesd 2 albums after he left Bad Boy (one of em was even released on siccness.net),, he didnt leave the rapgame for Allah till recently
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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2011, 09:30:34 AM »
you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.


u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.

but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.


Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.

Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.

not in a million years, Bishop Lamont is probly the ultimate career-fail (along wit Memph Bleek)

Bishop was everywhere when he was on the Aftermath. guest-appearcnes everywhere (probably 250 songs), Warren G etc etc,, an ep wit Black Milk. and as soon as he got kicked out the Aftermath, his career died. Kendrik is more talened, n took his spot

Hittman had like 3 or 4 songs on "2001", nothin else (not even a musicvideo)
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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 11:08:07 AM »
you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.
true, bishop isnt the biggest failure from aftermath

you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.


u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.

but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.


Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.

Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.

not in a million years, Bishop Lamont is probly the ultimate career-fail (along wit Memph Bleek)

Bishop was everywhere when he was on the Aftermath. guest-appearcnes everywhere (probably 250 songs), Warren G etc etc,, an ep wit Black Milk. and as soon as he got kicked out the Aftermath, his career died. Kendrik is more talened, n took his spot

Hittman had like 3 or 4 songs on "2001", nothin else (not even a musicvideo)
250 guest appearances in those years? no way

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 11:37:36 AM »
you only mentioned Bishop out of the 10 or so other Aftermath dropouts? Hittman? What about Rage and RBX? Everyone on the Aftermath presents? Pretty much everyone Dre has worked with except Snoop, Em, 50 and Game.


u have a point. theres alota of artists from the Aftermath presents compilatoin, n none of em saw the light of the day in teh mainstream.

but i picked Bishop, cuz dude had a huge buzz when he was signed (unlike Gage, Hittman, Brooklyn and the Aftermath-compilation aritsts etc), but as soon as he left the club, nothin.. Kendrick n Slim came along, n nobody will remember Bishop in 1 or 2 years.


Rage left the game freely, n RBX was always his own man.

Hittman had a way bigger buzz than Bishop ever did. He was featured on most of the songs on 2001. Even got a spot on one of Dre's music videos. And has done absolutely nothing since. Bishop has dropped an album and a mixtape since he left and apparently was in some indie movie.

not in a million years, Bishop Lamont is probly the ultimate career-fail (along wit Memph Bleek)

Bishop was everywhere when he was on the Aftermath. guest-appearcnes everywhere (probably 250 songs), Warren G etc etc,, an ep wit Black Milk. and as soon as he got kicked out the Aftermath, his career died. Kendrik is more talened, n took his spot

Hittman had like 3 or 4 songs on "2001", nothin else (not even a musicvideo)

lmao so you're comparing Bishop going out and doing projects with underground artists with Hittman being featured on one of the biggest rap albums of all time? Hitt was given everything. He was featured on ten songs on the biggest album of the year and was the only rapper to get his own solo track. Now that's a way bigger buzz than Bishop doing songs with Warren G and Black Milk. He was promoted as Dre's next big protege and featured all over his album.

And bro if Hittman had a music video we wouldn't be talking about his career failure since his album would have come out. But he did get to spit a verse at the end of the music video from Dre's biggest single. He had everything and did nothing with it. Bishop doing as many features as he did, means he was taking full advantage of the opportunity given to him, not wasting it like Hittman did. Do you think it was Dre who had him go out and work with Black Milk and Warren G? No, that was shit he went out and did on his own. Guy released 5 full-length projects. You've got to admit he made far more out of his time on Aftermath than anyone else on the label who didn't drop an official album. And he also left the label on his own, not waiting around to get dropped for doing nothing like Hittman.
 

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 11:57:35 AM »
thing is, ur thinkin the wrong way tho.

u have to take that into consideration - the fact Bishop built up his stature durin that time when he was on the aftermath - wit projects wit black milk etc etc, n doin like 250  guestappearnces everywhere, and he had dozens of Dre-beats at his disposal (more Dre-beats than any other Aftermah-artist, except for Fif and Em) ---
 and as soon as it was made public, that Bishop wasnt on aftermah anympore... nothin. absoultely nothing.. thats the ultiamte "fail". he couldnt piggybank off of his aftermah-past anymore, hes a reject - nobody is interested in him anymore, n Kendrik kicked out his relevancy completely soon as Dre gave him some dap.. he went from 10 songs every day, to complete silence..

 Hittman fucked it all up, cuz his workethic wasnt up to par.
n when Hittman was on aftermath he wasnt buzzing, no adverts/markting no nothing. not even a video, just some guest-verses on "2001", the only aftermah-artist that was buzzin or had a marketing-budget during that tiem, was Eminem (Jimmy gave the Em-project a budget, cuz white america was interested/infatuated wit him as an artist, no focus whatsover on Hittman)



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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2011, 12:40:21 PM »
thing is, ur thinkin the wrong way tho.

u have to take that into consideration - the fact Bishop built up his stature durin that time when he was on the aftermath - wit projects wit black milk etc etc, n doin like 250  guestappearnces everywhere, and he had dozens of Dre-beats at his disposal (more Dre-beats than any other Aftermah-artist, except for Fif and Em) ---
 and as soon as it was made public, that Bishop wasnt on aftermah anympore... nothin. absoultely nothing.. thats the ultiamte "fail". he couldnt piggybank off of his aftermah-past anymore, hes a reject - nobody is interested in him anymore, n Kendrik kicked out his relevancy completely soon as Dre gave him some dap.. he went from 10 songs every day, to complete silence..

 Hittman fucked it all up, cuz his workethic wasnt up to par.
n when Hittman was on aftermath he wasnt buzzing, no adverts/markting no nothing. not even a video, just some guest-verses on "2001", the only aftermah-artist that was buzzin or had a marketing-budget during that tiem, was Elyminem (Jimmy gave the Em-project a budget, cuz white america was interested/infatuated wit him as an artist, no focus whatsover on Hittman)

Where did all these Dre beats come from? I only remember No Stoppin Carson and Grow Up. Hittman was given an entire album of Dre beats and got to be on songs with Dre himself. His songs were getting airplay. He was actually mainstream during that time.

Your problem is you are looking at all the things Bishop did while on Aftermath as things Dre did for him. But these are all things he did on his own. Dre didn't do shit but appear in a video with him. All these projects and appearances, that WAS him piggybacking off of being signed. What did he have to show for being signed? Five projects of original material (non of it produced by Dre). Hittman on the other hand was the star of Dre's comeback album and was promoted as the next big thing. And he did nothing with it. He was dropped and disappeared out of existence without ever having released any music on his own. That is the ultimate career fail.

None of the rappers who left or were dropped from Aftermath have been able to maintain their relevancy. The fact Bishop was able to build a discography during that time means his career was more successful than any of the others who didn't walk away with anything. Right?  
 

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2011, 12:49:40 PM »
Canibus. not as big fail as the ones you've mentioned but i've always thought he could have done much more... he was more gifted than Bishop and Hittman
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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2011, 12:59:26 PM »
Hittman was never a star. Eminem was, Hittman was never mainstream/no buzz at all. and tehres is no  Hittman-album wit complete Dre-production (just a few songs). n he appeared wit some verses on "2001", tahts all

Bishop Lamont is the only artist on aftermah, except Em ,Fif n Buss, that rapped on the most Dre-beats --- and even wit a plethora like that at his disposal, plus the fact taht he managed to spew out hundreds, hundreds, hundreds and hundreds of guestappearances (mainstream n underground) during his short stint at aftermah, he failed as soon as he left the label. disapeared into thin air.. add that up. his fault or not, his career is engraved in history as a fail,, thats how i c it
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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2011, 01:15:44 PM »
Petey Pablo when he signed with Death row :stupid:
 

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2011, 01:58:10 PM »
thing is, ur thinkin the wrong way tho.

u have to take that into consideration - the fact Bishop built up his stature durin that time when he was on the aftermath - wit projects wit black milk etc etc, n doin like 250  guestappearnces everywhere, and he had dozens of Dre-beats at his disposal (more Dre-beats than any other Aftermah-artist, except for Fif and Em) ---
 and as soon as it was made public, that Bishop wasnt on aftermah anympore... nothin. absoultely nothing.. thats the ultiamte "fail". he couldnt piggybank off of his aftermah-past anymore, hes a reject - nobody is interested in him anymore, n Kendrik kicked out his relevancy completely soon as Dre gave him some dap.. he went from 10 songs every day, to complete silence..

 Hittman fucked it all up, cuz his workethic wasnt up to par.
n when Hittman was on aftermath he wasnt buzzing, no adverts/markting no nothing. not even a video, just some guest-verses on "2001", the only aftermah-artist that was buzzin or had a marketing-budget during that tiem, was Eminem (Jimmy gave the Em-project a budget, cuz white america was interested/infatuated wit him as an artist, no focus whatsover on Hittman)
i fail to see why he failed right after he left the label? you act like he was going to be a big star but messed up.
and im quite sure that the ones who listened to bishop before, still listen to him. you may have been sleeping, but he dropped quite a few songs since he left aftermath, 2 mixtapes ( one for japan, not all new music but still)

you're right that kendrick gained some attention after dre co-signed him, but hes not a star(yet).

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2011, 03:26:02 PM »
lol, why u always slinkin in defendin everyhtin that is aftermath-related?

what im sayin, is merely objective and its impartial.
it doesnt take a rocketscientist to see, taht Bishops career is a fail. dude built up a fanbase when he was active wit Dre - as soon as he left, dude had a hardtime carryin his own weight for whatever reason n make the kids follow him,, and shortly after that (now), Bishop was completely silenced. he went from new songs/guest appearnces on the latest/most relevant/hotest shit like every week, to ütter and awkward silence.
he generated a followin n these kids switched focus soon as the new Dre-crowned dudes came along (slim, kendrick).. real is real, all the kids that were ravin bout Bishop (particuarly on this forum), r focusin on Slim n Kendrik nowadays -- there is no such thing as loyalty, when it comes to Dr Dre-stanism.. ask Aftermath-leftovers like Gage and Brooklyn.. are u checkin for them today?

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2011, 03:44:01 PM »
^^^^ if you think the focus has switched that's only cos Bishop hasn't dropped a project in god knows how long, and his last mixtape was sub par. Kendrick just dropped what to me was the album of the year and Slim just dropped a dope mixtape, of course the focus is more on those guys right now, they're doing shit to generate and maintain interest, Bishop isn't.
 

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2011, 08:35:46 PM »
if this was couple years ago id say crooked i...but its gotta be chingy lol
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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2011, 10:49:02 PM »
Chingy had success you can't call that failing.
 

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Re: biggest career-fails ever?
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2011, 02:53:00 AM »
lol, why u always slinkin in defendin everyhtin that is aftermath-related?

what im sayin, is merely objective and its impartial.
it doesnt take a rocketscientist to see, taht Bishops career is a fail. dude built up a fanbase when he was active wit Dre - as soon as he left, dude had a hardtime carryin his own weight for whatever reason n make the kids follow him,, and shortly after that (now), Bishop was completely silenced. he went from new songs/guest appearnces on the latest/most relevant/hotest shit like every week, to ütter and awkward silence.
he generated a followin n these kids switched focus soon as the new Dre-crowned dudes came along (slim, kendrick).. real is real, all the kids that were ravin bout Bishop (particuarly on this forum), r focusin on Slim n Kendrik nowadays -- there is no such thing as loyalty, when it comes to Dr Dre-stanism.. ask Aftermath-leftovers like Gage and Brooklyn.. are u checkin for them today?

Aftermath Entertainment is a curse, n only time will tell if Slim drops his debut on that jewish-owned label.. 
its a forum right? for the record, i dont defend everything from aftermath, just check my post archive.

i agree that bishop's career wasn't successfull at aftermath, i just think you're exaggerating. when he was on aftermath, there were enough quiet moments too, just search the forum. remember the early rumours of him getting dropped?
you say people on here dont check for him anymore, but quite a few checked out his last mixtape. and im sure it will be the same once he drops a new one. you're right that he's not really active with the music right now, which is a shame.

well GAGE woke up from his cave not long ago, he dropped a few mixtapes. i listen to it, but you're right that not many check for him.

i agree that aftermath is a shitty label.