Lil Eazy E is more talented than his pops

[Sccit]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

seriously...it's well known that eazy and dre always bumped heads over creative differences back in the ruthless days.

[villain]

fast forward to 6:55 mark.

can someone hook this Lil eazy e song up, i think its called street lights

this is the so far hands down the best lil e track i have heard to date. someone please hook this banger up if its even out.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.

I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.

How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.

You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.

lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.

With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?

it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.

Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.

[Black Excellence]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

seriously...it's well known that eazy and dre always bumped heads over creative differences back in the ruthless days.

also a testemant to him being a talent and creative force in the group. and fuck what muthafuckas heard the nigga was thorough on the mic. period !!!!!!!!!!

[Black Excellence]

This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.

I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.

How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.

You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.

lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.

With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?

it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.

Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.

you crazy his flow was for from weak.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

[Dre-Day]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

i didn't say that.
im just saying, he was involved with the music, even though he wasn't writing the words.
take the niggaz4life album for example, you can tell eazy e's influence.

[bouli77]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

he came up with ideas for the direction of HIS label and he also produced a couple tracks for Chronic 2000 but that's it, he gave the broad directions but didn't have any input in the booth when it came to crafting song. Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless. Suge kinda had that too, but never went that deep and far. he was more like an overseer that could redlight your project if he considered it too weak (cf. Danny Boy's album) and could greenlight your project if he felt it was the shit (like he did for Dogg Food, which wasn't the next project in line).

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.

I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.

How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.

You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.

lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.

With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?

it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.

Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.

you crazy his flow was for from weak.

You're fucking crazy.



First off its fairly obvious the D.O.C. wrote this for him and showed him how to flow over it. But even trained he's talking more than rapping. If you think this is impressive you have no idea what flow is in the first place.

[Black Excellence]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

suge probably gave ideas but they didn't always use them. snoop said that about doggystyle.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

he came up with ideas for the direction of HIS label and he also produced a couple tracks for Chronic 2000 but that's it, he gave the broad directions but didn't have any input in the booth when it came to crafting song. Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless. Suge kinda had that too, but never went that deep and far. he was more like an overseer that could redlight your project if he considered it too weak (cf. Danny Boy's album) and could greenlight your project if he felt it was the shit (like he did for Dogg Food, which wasn't the next project in line).

And you know this how? You were in the studio with both Suge and Eazy and saw what they both did? Fuck outta here.

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless.

mere speculation. no truth whatsoever

and smh at the Rick Rubin-comparison

[bouli77]

that's from reading interviews, anecdotes, autobiographies and biographies, seeing documentaries over the years, the pieces of the different puzzles come together

[Black Excellence]

This. I've said before, he's more comparable to Suge Knight than he is to actual artists.

I wouldnt go that far. He's likeable enough to get the job done as a solo artist but he's basically a manufactured act in that people wrote all his songs and taught him how to rhyme and perform. But it's a weird precident in that the label didn't create him. He WAS the label. You really can't knock the hustle because he deserved every bit of credit he got in terms of being a pioneer but he had a fucking all-star team of music production backing him. And hey, he helped bring that together so why shouldn't he benefit? He was immensely limited as an artist but he had a vision and the drive to make it all happen and in the end, artists are a dime a dozen. Guys like Eazy-E are the ones who make the business go round.

How can you deny Suge WAS Death Row? He was running things. It's widely accepted that everyone there was his bitch.

You can't give Eazy any credit for any artistic talent. But give him all the credit for his business talent.

lmao...ur making it seem like suge coulda gotten behind the mic and captured the world the way eazy did. get the fuck out of here, with ur unintelligent bullshit.

With his artists making music for him and training him how to flow?

it doesnt work like that...rappers have been in the game for years and can never even come close to sounding as crispy as eazy on the mic. u cant just take any random person and teach them to flow. u either have it or u don't...eazy had it. suge didn't. the comparison is retarded as fuc.

Eazy crisp? He had one of the weakest flows in the game. And that was after being trained by the rest of N.W.A.

you crazy his flow was for from weak.

You're fucking crazy.



First off its fairly obvious the D.O.C. wrote this for him and showed him how to flow over it. But even trained he's talking more than rapping. If you think this is impressive you have no idea what flow is in the first place.

great song btw. you forget eazy wasn't tryin to become a rapper so of course he had to be trained and he was trained by the best btw no different when d.o.c. was coaching snoop in the beginning of his career. and eazy still was great without them after the break up of n.w.a. (d.o.c. , dre, cube, ren ) he came back wit one of the best duo's ever b.g. knocc out and dresta and sold even more records (it's on was triple platinum then) he started writing his own shit the rhymes were better and his flow was sick. that's progress to me. being that he started not writing his rhymes.

[Black Excellence]

but I originally just wanted to say that Eazy-E may not be talented "like that" (as u put it) but he had other talents that showed in his raps = showmanship, presence, the ability to create the conditions to drop dope albums despite his somewhat limited skills, etc. and that is talent IMHO. I think Petey summed it up well.

Talent in business is a different thing than artistic talent. He had talent in the same way Suge Knight and Dame Dash did.

i hear you. but i think the ability to put together great tracks and make them entertaining despite limited technical skills is a talent beyond business acumen, don't you think ?

He wasn't the one who put the tracks together. And he wasn't the one who came up with the entertaining lyrics. The only thing that was his own was his high-pitched childlike voice.

you're right about writing, but he did come with ideas (for NWA)

You think Suge didn't come up with ideas for the direction of HIS label? Its known All Eyez On Me was made because Suge wanted Pac to make a more commercially-oriented album. He wanted California Love for Pac. He wanted Pac and Snoop to collab on a song. In fact he probably came up with more ideas than Eazy because Suge tended to get what he wanted.

Eazy E came up with musical ideas, whether it was song structure, subject matter, humour, he had vision and great input for his songs, kinda like Rick Rubin. no musical knowledge and no technical skills but an artistic vision nonetheless.

mere speculation. no truth whatsoever

and smh at the Rick Rubin-comparison

it is true. eazy was creative as hell he also had things in store for ruthless records like putting out a death row killa album, an album wit dj yella, signing b.g. knocc out and dresta, a movie he co wrote, etc. come on the man had raw talent he perfected it and made it work and that's the cold hard truth.