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Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« on: March 20, 2012, 02:58:41 AM »
It has been over three weeks since 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot to death while walking home from a store in the rain in Sanford, Fla. There has been no arrest, although 28-year-old George Zimmerman admitted to police he had shot the teen. He claimed self-defense and, as far as the Sanford Police Department said, it could determine, that should have been the end of the matter.

But too many details were found troubling to many, not the least of which was Trayvon's family, who questioned the incident. Then there was the release of the 911 calls, according to the Huffington Post, and what had begun as a groundswell of support for something to be done to provide justice in the death of the young man.
 
Although unarmed and carrying a cellphone, a bag of Skittles for his younger brother and an iced tea, Trayvon was deemed "suspicious" by a neighborhood watchman in the gated community where he was visiting. The 911 calls indicate Zimmerman had concerns, noted the unidentified was black and looking at neighborhood buildings. But when Trayvon began to run, Zimmerman gave chase. Although called off by the 911 operator, Zimmerman proceeded to go after the young man. Subsequent 911 calls and eyewitness accounts picked up the story from there.
 
Zimmerman apparently confronted the teen. Some of the accounts note one of the men in the altercation ended up on the ground. That man was described as black and yelling for help. In one 911 call, the calls for assistance can be heard in the background, just before a shot was fired. A teen walking his dog said he saw a black man on the ground screaming for help. Then there was a shot. Then everything got quiet.
 
The 911 tapes seem to have intensify demands that something be done in a case where inconsistencies abound. Still, prior to the tapes going public, a petition for justice on Change.org written by Trayvon's parents, Tracy Martin and Sabrina Fulton, had garnered over 200,000 signatures. The petition, spurred on by calls for justice on Twitter and Facebook by celebrities like Russell Simmons, has accumulated over 425,000 signatures.
 
Prior to the release of the tapes, Zimmerman's father, Robert, delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel, responding to allegations his son was racist and getting away with a brutal killing. The letter said George at no time followed or confronted Trayvon before the shooting.
 
The 911 tapes revealed otherwise.

Police took Zimmerman's statement and he was subsequently allowed to return home. He was never tested for drugs or alcohol, a standard procedure following shooting incidents.
 
Racism has been cited by many. And there are other circumstances that seem to call for at least some form of formal investigation. Law enforcement expert Rod Wheeler told ABC News that Zimmerman sounded intoxicated in the 911 calls. He noted Sanford police should have noticed any aberrance.
 
ABC News also reported Zimmerman was not registered on any neighborhood watch lists, something Sanford Police were unaware of at the time of questioning.
 
Trayvon's father, who lives in the gated community with his fiancee, and his ex-wife, a resident of Miami, only increased their cries for justice, calling for an FBI investigation not only into the shooting but into the way the incident had been investigated by the Sanford Police Department.
 
CBS News reported that rallies were held on Florida college campuses in an effort to bring more pressure on law enforcement to look into the shooting.
 
Powerful blogs like Michael Skolnik's "White People, You Will Never Look Suspicious Like Trayvon Martin" at Global Grind are getting steady views as well. Pointing out that Trayvon was in a hospital morgue as a "John Doe" for nearly 24 hours because not even the police believed he lived in the gated community where he was shot, Skolnik noted Trayvon was "suspicious" only because he was black. He compared his own mode of dress to that of the deceased, noting that wearing the same types of clothes -- a hoodie and sweatpants of jeans -- did not arouse suspicions.
 
The Sanford Police Department has left the case in the hands of the state's Attorney's Office, bringing additional accusations of not performing their duty of arresting Zimmerman and basically passing the buck.
 
ABC News reported the FBI is monitoring the situation. It is as yet unclear if the agency will become involved.
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 03:08:21 AM »
FBI, Justice Department to Investigate Killing of Trayvon Martin by Neighborhood Watchman

The FBI, the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, and the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Florida will investigate the killing of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old Florida high school student, who was shot by a self-appointed neighborhood watchman.
 
"The department will conduct a thorough and independent review of all of the evidence and take appropriate action at the conclusion of the investigation," a statement released by the Justice Department this evening said. "The department also is providing assistance to and cooperating with the state officials in their investigation into the incident."
 
George Zimmerman, who claimed self-defense in shooting Martin, has not been charged with any crime in the fatal shooting of the teenager on Feb. 26.
 
Outrage over the incident has only grown, as irregularities in the police investigation have been uncovered and 911 tapes released last week showed Zimmerman ignored a dispatcher's directive not to pursue the teen.
 
Zimmerman also blatantly violated major principles of the Neighborhood Watch manual, ABC News has learned.
 
The manual, from the National Neighborhood Watch Program, states: "It should be emphasized to members that they do not possess police powers, and they shall not carry weapons or pursue vehicles. They should also be cautioned to alert police or deputies when encountering strange activity. Members should never confront suspicious persons who could be armed and dangerous."
 
Yet Zimmerman made a nonemergency call to police and pursued him anyway, even though 911 dispatcher told him not to, before fatally shooting the teenager.
 
The Sanford, Fla., Police Department, relenting to massive public pressure, released parts of these 911 tapes pertaining to the shooting.
 
On the tapes, Zimmerman, claiming Martin looked intoxicated, says he saw the teenager cut through from the main street in the tidy Retreat at Twin Lakes, onto a path between two blocks of townhouses, and decided to gave chase. Zimmerman told a police dispatcher, "These a**holes, they always get away"
 
Dispatcher: "Are you following him?"

Zimmerman: "Yes."

Dispatcher: "OK, we don't need you to do that."

Zimmerman didn't stop and ultimately confronted Martin, who was carrying a package of Skittles and a bottle of iced tea. The two allegedly scuffled. In a series of seven 911 calls, eyewitnesses reported that they heard a sort of howling. One caller said, "they're wrestling right in the back of my porch, one man is yelling help."
 
Then a gun shot rang out. The howling and yelling stopped.

Zimmerman wasn't arrested at the time, and ABC News has learned he was not given a drug or alcohol test that night -- standard in most homicide investigations.
 
Law enforcement expert Rod Wheeler, who listened to the tapes, told ABC News that Zimmerman, not Martin, sounded intoxicated in the police recordings of the 911 calls.
 
"When I listened to the 911 tape, the first thing that came to my mind is this guy sounds intoxicated. Notice how he's slurring his words. We as trained law enforcement officers, we know how to listen for that right away, and I think that's going to be an important element of this entire investigation," Wheeler said.
 
According to Chris Tutko, the director of the National Neighborhood Watch Program, there are about 22,000 registered watch groups nationwide, and Zimmerman was not part of a registered group -- another fact the police were not aware of at the time of the incident.
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 09:26:37 AM »
The 911 calls indicate Zimmerman had concerns, noted the unidentified was black and looking at neighborhood buildings. But when Trayvon began to run, Zimmerman gave chase.
A black man looking at buildings is suspcious? :grumpy:
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 11:11:27 AM »

If these 2 were involved in a fight, in the heat of the moment the gun is pulled, I would hardly describe that as a racially motivated premeditated murder. Compare that to the numerous examples of black people attacking white people, in one of the city's which has seen many evil racist attacks on whte the mayor (who is black) had to speak out about it because no one else would dare. Yet this NEVER receives this coverage afforded to black victims. How quickly people forget that evil scumbag standing on the streets of new york yelling "you want freedom? you are going to have to kill a cracker, kill their babies too". Or the C-Span coverage of a supposedly enlightened and "intellectual" black man who gave a talk which commenced into the research he had conducted on foods, concluding that they were poisoning yet said these are "poisoning our people" and told his audience that the only solution is to exterminate all white people.

Sick, warped fucks are allowed to get on tv and advocate genocide, encourage it, intellectually "justify" it, as long as it's against whites.
Oh there is NO doubt there is an agenda here, but it's not about protecting white people and sweeping things under the carpet.
If this Trayvon was murdered in cold blood, then throw the book at this jewish guy (am assuming from the name he is) but look at the bigger picture here.
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 10:02:02 PM »

If these 2 were involved in a fight, in the heat of the moment the gun is pulled, I would hardly describe that as a racially motivated premeditated murder. Compare that to the numerous examples of black people attacking white people, in one of the city's which has seen many evil racist attacks on whte the mayor (who is black) had to speak out about it because no one else would dare. Yet this NEVER receives this coverage afforded to black victims. How quickly people forget that evil scumbag standing on the streets of new york yelling "you want freedom? you are going to have to kill a cracker, kill their babies too". Or the C-Span coverage of a supposedly enlightened and "intellectual" black man who gave a talk which commenced into the research he had conducted on foods, concluding that they were poisoning yet said these are "poisoning our people" and told his audience that the only solution is to exterminate all white people.

Sick, warped fucks are allowed to get on tv and advocate genocide, encourage it, intellectually "justify" it, as long as it's against whites.
Oh there is NO doubt there is an agenda here, but it's not about protecting white people and sweeping things under the carpet.
If this Trayvon was murdered in cold blood, then throw the book at this jewish guy (am assuming from the name he is) but look at the bigger picture here.

Come on man.. He followed the kid, without any valid reason.  He followed him and picked a fight, and then when the fight escalated he pulled out a gun.  How come your taking up for this asshole? 
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 03:21:50 AM »
I wasn't stating he was right or wrong. If he was the aggressor (zimmerman), then throw the book at the motherfucker. My point was contrasting how heinous racist attacks on whites are condoned essentially by the lack of coverage (where is the justice for them). They want to incite black people to feel they are the victims, to incite further violence and create more and more tension. Attacks on blacks perpeteated by whites is very small compares to vice versa and yet the media ignores it. The media are an arm of the parasitical elite, they are playing a bigger game here.
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 12:34:29 PM »
Going off the idea that it was in fact "self-defense", then I feel bad for the guy. Because idiotic, ignorant people are going to bitch until the government just feels to need to kill the guy & sacrifice one to satisfy a million.

But we'll never know.
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2012, 04:03:21 PM »
If a black person would have chased down a white person because he looked suspicious, black dude's entire family would probably get the death penalty. 
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 10:36:59 AM »
I wasn't stating he was right or wrong. If he was the aggressor (zimmerman), then throw the book at the motherfucker. My point was contrasting how heinous racist attacks on whites are condoned essentially by the lack of coverage (where is the justice for them). They want to incite black people to feel they are the victims, to incite further violence and create more and more tension. Attacks on blacks perpeteated by whites is very small compares to vice versa and yet the media ignores it. The media are an arm of the parasitical elite, they are playing a bigger game here.

I don't know about that.  What larger game is the media playing?  You always want to see every event through the lens of Illuminati/New World Order.  But this case is really about white people being isolated and paranoid, and suspicious of people just going out for a walk to buy candy.
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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 11:12:20 AM »
In this case, Zimmerman was straight up acting like a gang member. He followed the guy, got his ass kicked then came back with a gun. That's the same shit that goes on in the IE. And in many cases, that's called murder, or gang violence. Dude needs to be prosecuted to the fullest of the law. Racially motivated or not. Though the fact that he followed him because he was a lack man makes this racially motivated.
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 12:05:23 PM »
I wasn't stating he was right or wrong. If he was the aggressor (zimmerman), then throw the book at the motherfucker. My point was contrasting how heinous racist attacks on whites are condoned essentially by the lack of coverage (where is the justice for them). They want to incite black people to feel they are the victims, to incite further violence and create more and more tension. Attacks on blacks perpeteated by whites is very small compares to vice versa and yet the media ignores it. The media are an arm of the parasitical elite, they are playing a bigger game here.
What larger game is the media playing? 

Its the race card.  The guy was black so this must have been because he was black, or in the very least, would never ever ever happen to anyone who wasnt black (all pure speculation and racism if you ask me).

New details coming out that the kid was the aggressor.  *waits for people to spin that info*
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 12:02:02 PM »
I wasn't stating he was right or wrong. If he was the aggressor (zimmerman), then throw the book at the motherfucker. My point was contrasting how heinous racist attacks on whites are condoned essentially by the lack of coverage (where is the justice for them). They want to incite black people to feel they are the victims, to incite further violence and create more and more tension. Attacks on blacks perpeteated by whites is very small compares to vice versa and yet the media ignores it. The media are an arm of the parasitical elite, they are playing a bigger game here.

I don't know about that.  What larger game is the media playing?  You always want to see every event through the lens of Illuminati/New World Order.  But this case is really about white people being isolated and paranoid, and suspicious of people just going out for a walk to buy candy.

Black people in general have far fire in them than whites, what game is the media playing? they WANT to stoke up tensions, that is to say they want to create this perception that the white man is oppressing you, exact retribution and of course, it maintains divisions in general. JUST like that evil warped fuck on C-Span, C-Span KNEW what he was about and yet he is allowed to deliver that message, do you think they would allow a white man to deliver that message, FUCK NO. I hope no one is that moronic but just in case, no I don't wish to say a warped fuck head white man conveying the same vile message.
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2012, 01:08:53 PM »
I wasn't stating he was right or wrong. If he was the aggressor (zimmerman), then throw the book at the motherfucker. My point was contrasting how heinous racist attacks on whites are condoned essentially by the lack of coverage (where is the justice for them). They want to incite black people to feel they are the victims, to incite further violence and create more and more tension. Attacks on blacks perpeteated by whites is very small compares to vice versa and yet the media ignores it. The media are an arm of the parasitical elite, they are playing a bigger game here.
What larger game is the media playing? 

Its the race card.  The guy was black so this must have been because he was black, or in the very least, would never ever ever happen to anyone who wasnt black (all pure speculation and racism if you ask me).

New details coming out that the kid was the aggressor.  *waits for people to spin that info*

The information given by Zimmerman who most likely has a lawyer already, and was able to straighten out his side of the story especially since his ass didn't even get brought in for questioning after taking someone's life. 
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 01:49:48 PM »
I heard his black friend is defending him. Interesting.
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2012, 03:06:44 PM »
I heard his black friend is defending him. Interesting.

Is it really?  It's his friend. 
 

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2012, 04:12:00 PM »
I heard his black friend is defending him. Interesting.

Is it really?  It's his friend. 

lol, so that makes it uninteresting?
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2012, 06:18:36 PM »
If a black person would have chased down a white person because he looked suspicious, black dude's entire family would probably get the death penalty. 
word but you know what ? if the pigs don't get involved the family should take the law into they own hands. all u idiots talkin' about self defense.... this was a fuckin' kid. bottom line dude is gonna get what's coming to him sooner or later and that's that. god will take care of him.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 06:57:34 PM »
I heard his black friend is defending him. Interesting.

Is it really?  It's his friend. 

lol, so that makes it uninteresting?

It's just a non-story.  So yeah I guess not interesting at all since that's to be expected. 
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2012, 07:21:12 PM »
media psy-op for racial divide.  all the sheep on both sides eat it up.
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 09:59:15 PM »
I heard today the kid was a serious gang member. He was suspended from school a week before after getting busted with weed on him.

I'm not saying those are grounds to be killed for. But let's not act like that little boy smiling in the picture is some innocent, sweet child who was on his way home from school lol.
 

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Re: Justice Demands in Trayvon Martin Shooting Intensifies
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 11:53:11 PM »
media psy-op for racial divide.  all the sheep on both sides eat it up.
Now that's the truth.

But on the subject of the case. Both sides of the story got holes in them and defenses. Because of that, Zimmerman should be arrested and tried, whether he's guilty or not. It's kinda hard to cry self-defense when you're chasing a kid with a gun though. Regardless, a trial where both sides present their evidence should be put into place.

Probably won't happen. What are y'all expecting from fuck azz Florida though? It's a state full of bullshit laws to begin with.
 

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2012, 12:16:01 AM »
media psy-op for racial divide.  all the sheep on both sides eat it up.
Now that's the truth.

But on the subject of the case. Both sides of the story got holes in them and defenses. Because of that, Zimmerman should be arrested and tried, whether he's guilty or not. It's kinda hard to cry self-defense when you're chasing a kid with a gun though. Regardless, a trial where both sides present their evidence should be put into place.

Probably won't happen. What are y'all expecting from fuck azz Florida though? It's a state full of bullshit laws to begin with.

Even just asking for a trial, you'll be painted as a pussy ass liberal