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Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« on: April 18, 2012, 01:37:30 AM »
Thats why I can put a track like this on and it shits on anything released in the last 15 years. I guess its kinda like Hendrix and the Beatles for rock music in 67 , or Davis and Coltrane for Jazz. Not dissing the scene now at all
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 01:39:14 AM »
back when Nore wasnt a joke
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 01:44:50 AM »
In 2012 Prodigy and Havoc might be a punchline
In the early 90s they were one of the illest duos ever, this beat is one of the best ever, plus Prodigy lays down one of the coldest verses ever
Even Havoc rips it ""for every rhyme I write its 25 to life"

 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 02:04:05 AM »
Lil Bruce!
Mobbin in my old school
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 04:33:30 AM »
don't forget about Onyx:

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HELP

I'm an ol' school collecta from the 90's SO F.CK DIGITAL, RELEASE A CD!

 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 09:00:25 AM »
Lil Bruce!
Mobbin in my old school


Never heard of this before, shit be boogying.
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2012, 09:14:28 AM »
rap music peaked sept 13th, 1996
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2012, 10:16:15 AM »
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2012, 10:20:33 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2012, 10:22:57 AM »
Hip Hop peaked in the early-mid 2000s, after Luda/DTP, 50 Cent/G Unit, The Game (After The Documentary) & The Diplomats (After Diplomatic Immunity 2 or More The Music) started losing steam.  Hip Hop was at its best from 91-99, but I think it was still actually pretty good up until around 2004/2005.
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 10:33:29 AM »
Hip Hop peaked in the early-mid 2000s, after Luda/DTP, 50 Cent/G Unit, The Game (After The Documentary) & The Diplomats (After Diplomatic Immunity 2 or More The Music) started losing steam.  Hip Hop was at its best from 91-99, but I think it was still actually pretty good up until around 2004/2005.

word... actually it makes sense to say that artistically it peaked somewhere around the end of the 80's/beginning of the 90's and that as it become a force commercially, the rise of gangsta rap made it deviate from its original format (from a "way of life" to a livelihood where rappers wanted to cash in on who were the hardest). however, even if rap allegedly declined after the demise of death row and the death of biggie, in retrospect, i think the 00's had a fair shair of very good mainstream and non mainstream rap, but it was nowhere as crazy in quantity and quality as the 90's or the 80's
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2012, 10:44:21 AM »
Hip Hop peaked in the early-mid 2000s, after Luda/DTP, 50 Cent/G Unit, The Game (After The Documentary) & The Diplomats (After Diplomatic Immunity 2 or More The Music) started losing steam.  Hip Hop was at its best from 91-99, but I think it was still actually pretty good up until around 2004/2005.

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2012, 11:18:43 AM »
back in the day when u had to call Pete Rock to do a remix for ur b-side,,

that was probly the peak creatively , so called "golden era", hiphop was still fresh/ innoventive  as a music-genre, wit unconventional (not to mention talented) groups like Das EFX, naughty by NAture n Fu-Shnickens on the forefront,,  and then came the wave wit boombap n lyricism wit guys like O.C., Wu, BCC, Jeru n Nas etc etc.
 and every kid read the Source MAgazine or Rap Pages, no such thing as intenret

98 was teh startin point for its peak commercialy, when the industry understood that money could be made as a francise off of rap. Death Row were very succesful, but nobody did it like Master P when he came through and taught ppl how to get paid wit No Limit when he oversaturated teh game wit a perfect distirubtion deal (for its time),,,, and Def Jam raped the game wit 2 backtoback triple-plat albums from DMX that year (which was incredible). not to mention Bad Boy/Puff, Cash Money etc.
after that, u had the Eminem/aftermath-era.
and then the g-unit era.. so on n so on
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2012, 11:22:02 AM »
i miss buying CD singles just to have the b-side songs

 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 11:26:14 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 11:34:13 AM »
i miss buying CD singles just to have the b-side songs



I think what I miss is artists didnt have to rush projects out to make cash, now on the independant tip rappers are flooding the listener with product and to be honest a lot of it sounds rushed.
Think of how many DPG related projects have dropped in the last 2-3 years and how if they had cut and diced them you could have been left with 1-2 classic joints
The average listening span has shortened to since the the advent of the MP3 and the various devices associated with it
You get people with hours and hours of music that they havent invested any listening time in, I was speaking to someone about Mobb Deep the other day and he had no idea of their past before G Unit, so we sat down and I played him multiple tracks from Hell on Earth and the Infamous, dude couldnt believe it
When was the last time you listened to an album beginning to end and then threw it on again?
MOP Sparta 10 tracks with the snowgoons was mine
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 11:36:52 AM »
back in the day when u had to call Pete Rock to do a remix for ur b-side,,

that was probly the peak creatively , so called "golden era", hiphop was still fresh/ innoventive  as a music-genre, wit unconventional (not to mention talented) groups like Das EFX, naughty by NAture n Fu-Shnickens on the forefront,,  and then came the wave wit boombap n lyricism wit guys like O.C., Wu, BCC, Jeru n Nas etc etc.
 and every kid read the Source MAgazine or Rap Pages, no such thing as intenret

98 was teh startin point for its peak commercialy, when the industry understood that money could be made as a francise off of rap. Death Row were very succesful, but nobody did it like Master P when he came through and taught ppl how to get paid wit No Limit when he oversaturated teh game wit a perfect distirubtion deal (for its time),,,, and Def Jam raped the game wit 2 backtoback triple-plat albums from DMX that year (which was incredible). not to mention Bad Boy/Puff, Cash Money etc.
after that, u had the Eminem/aftermath-era.
and then the g-unit era.. so on n so on

The Source is a joke now, and is Rap Pages still in circulation?
I remember when Pac was first shot and then spent time in Jail Vibe was the one to read, man they had exclusives at the time
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 11:43:23 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes

Trust me, I listen to songs from the early 90's way more than the late 80's, but what Hip Hop represented was in it's purest form in 1988. Plus more classic albums came out in 1988 than 1993.

1988

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/jlagor1/1988_hip_hop

1993

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

1993 would be a goldyn year now, but compared to 1988, 1988 was just too deep of a year and Hip-Hop was still at it's purest.
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 11:44:39 AM »
i miss buying CD singles just to have the b-side songs



I think what I miss is artists didnt have to rush projects out to make cash, now on the independant tip rappers are flooding the listener with product and to be honest a lot of it sounds rushed.
Think of how many DPG related projects have dropped in the last 2-3 years and how if they had cut and diced them you could have been left with 1-2 classic joints
The average listening span has shortened to since the the advent of the MP3 and the various devices associated with it
You get people with hours and hours of music that they havent invested any listening time in


DJ Quik touched on this in an interview recently. He said that back long before the internet boom where artists now 'leak' everything for constant hype, real artists worked so hard on perfecting hit records that they hid their lesser tracks, they just didn't want that stuff to get released. Tracks would be shelved and sometimes be revisited and finished....or erased and never heard again. Lesser, but still good tracks would make b-sides or compilations of course.
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 11:48:09 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes

Trust me, I listen to songs from the early 90's way more than the late 80's, but what Hip Hop represented was in it's purest form in 1988. Plus more classic albums came out in 1988 than 1993.

1988

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/jlagor1/1988_hip_hop

1993

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

1993 would be a goldyn year now, but compared to 1988, 1988 was just too deep of a year and Hip-Hop was still at it's purest.

Those lists arent comprehensive enough, Ill try and find a better link
Eazy Duz it a classic? not sure about that
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 01:08:10 PM »
Thats why I can put a track like this on and it shits on anything released in the last 15 years. I guess its kinda like Hendrix and the Beatles for rock music in 67 , or Davis and Coltrane for Jazz. Not dissing the scene now at all


Good thread, and perfect track to illustrate your point.  This track wasn't a hit or anything, it was more of an afterthought.  Just a regular track for those days.  But like you said, today it shits on anything coming out (except for rare exceptions to the general rule, ofcourse).

...even the look of the video is the bomb compared to the bullshit video's today.  The video's today are just soft porn.  But like the African proverb says, "The body is easily satisfied but the heart not so easy".
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"I didn't do nothing but make people money and I didn't leave nobody high and dry.  Any album (on death row) people are going to check for.  But it's time for Dre to worry about Dre.  I'm focused on the new Snoop Doggs, not like that but you know what I mean."

Dre -  Source 1996 cover

"Eminem will be bigger than Michael Jackson as long as he doesn't change."

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 01:11:51 PM »
what album was this track on, btw
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"I will make records as big or bigger than Death Row".   -Dre, Source 1996

"I didn't do nothing but make people money and I didn't leave nobody high and dry.  Any album (on death row) people are going to check for.  But it's time for Dre to worry about Dre.  I'm focused on the new Snoop Doggs, not like that but you know what I mean."

Dre -  Source 1996 cover

"Eminem will be bigger than Michael Jackson as long as he doesn't change."

-Dre, Rolling Stones mag 1999 Em cover

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 01:19:00 PM »
what album was this track on, btw

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 01:30:22 PM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes

Trust me, I listen to songs from the early 90's way more than the late 80's, but what Hip Hop represented was in it's purest form in 1988. Plus more classic albums came out in 1988 than 1993.

1988

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/jlagor1/1988_hip_hop

1993

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

1993 would be a goldyn year now, but compared to 1988, 1988 was just too deep of a year and Hip-Hop was still at it's purest.

Those lists arent comprehensive enough, Ill try and find a better link
Eazy Duz it a classic? not sure about that


never agreed wit that either

overrated album from an overrated artist